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KANE said:
You kinda answered your own question, lol. Hand signals, play cards or "billboards", wristbands, and code words. With one word, everyone on O, will know what play is called and to what side we're running it. For example, in the Tony Franklin system, you will hear the offensive players yell. "Zorro" for Inside Zone Rt. and "Zulu" for Inside Zone Lft. Hand signals are the preferred method of many. Some teams will have 2-3 guys doing signals to confuse the opposing teams. Only 1 of the 3 will be the "Hot" guy (The one that the kids are actually looking at). Sometimes teams will change the "Hot" guy during the game. SOme teams will have one guy signaling plays to the OL, and the other guy signalling in formations and plays to the rest of the guys. Also with the advent of RPO's, teams now will use the same blocking scheme for a running play or a pass plays (RPO). This **** has changed the game. So let's say an offense gets the signal for a Power to the right side of the formation (run). Well as far as the OL is concerned that's the ONLY play that we're running, so thats what were blocking. During this play, the QB is reading the "box" LB thats aligned to the side of the RB. If that LB sits we give the ball to the RB going to the right following the pulling Guard. Well, if the "read" LB (the box LB that we're keying) gets too smart or greedy and leaves his area too fast. or blitzes his gap, The QB immediately pulls the ball and hit the inside slot WR on a quick slant (he's instructed to run his route where the "read" LB left from. To the OL, they're still running the Power play. The key though is that QB has to make his read really fast before an OL gets upfield. That's just one example. It's **** near unfair to the Defense. This is why it's sooo **** hard to shut offenses down, nowadays.
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Appreciate your posts man. This sort of information is really informative to those of us who haven't played or have field experience. I have been wondering about this sort of thing too, but wasn't sure the way some folks behave, that it would be wise to ask.
 
KANE said:
You kinda answered your own question, lol. Hand signals, play cards or "billboards", wristbands, and code words. With one word, everyone on O, will know what play is called and to what side we're running it. For example, in the Tony Franklin system, you will hear the offensive players yell. "Zorro" for Inside Zone Rt. and "Zulu" for Inside Zone Lft. Hand signals are the preferred method of many. Some teams will have 2-3 guys doing signals to confuse the opposing teams. Only 1 of the 3 will be the "Hot" guy (The one that the kids are actually looking at). Sometimes teams will change the "Hot" guy during the game. SOme teams will have one guy signaling plays to the OL, and the other guy signalling in formations and plays to the rest of the guys. Also with the advent of RPO's, teams now will use the same blocking scheme for a running play or a pass plays (RPO). This **** has changed the game. So let's say an offense gets the signal for a Power to the right side of the formation (run). Well as far as the OL is concerned that's the ONLY play that we're running, so thats what were blocking. During this play, the QB is reading the "box" LB thats aligned to the side of the RB. If that LB sits we give the ball to the RB going to the right following the pulling Guard. Well, if the "read" LB (the box LB that we're keying) gets too smart or greedy and leaves his area too fast. or blitzes his gap, The QB immediately pulls the ball and hit the inside slot WR on a quick slant (he's instructed to run his route where the "read" LB left from. To the OL, they're still running the Power play. The key though is that QB has to make his read really fast before an OL gets upfield. That's just one example. It's **** near unfair to the Defense. This is why it's sooo **** hard to shut offenses down, nowadays.
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100% zorro and zulu were our IZ calls. lol

My favorite TF story was he had a quick smash concept (outside WRs ran a FIN and inside ran a short corner) that he ran in the green zone , and he called it 69. to quote him "if you want to score, run 69"
 
NE Canes said:
There is always the potential for the QB to make a mess of it no matter how the play is received.

The O is only going to run as well as the QB running it.
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I mean the only foolproof way is to have the QB run to sideline like @Fatboycane used to do. and his school won a whole lot a championships doing it.
 
hollyhood27 said:
100% zorro and zulu were our IZ calls. lol

My favorite TF story was he had a quick smash concept (outside WRs ran a FIN and inside ran a short corner) that he ran in the green zone , and he called it 69. to quote him "if you want to score, run 69"
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Ayeeee it works. 🤣😂🤣😂 every time!
 
KANE said:
Ayeeee it works. 🤣😂🤣😂 every time!
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another funny TF story I heard. A HS was paying for his system and ran everything exactly as he called it (didn't tweak etc). Well he got fired and had nothing to do and so he went to the school and called their plays for the State championship game. No idea how true that one is but that Air Raid guys are eccentric like that.
 
UnForgiven said:
Appreciate your posts man. This sort of information is really informative to those of us who haven't played or have field experience. I have been wondering about this sort of thing too, but wasn't sure the way some folks behave, that it would be wise to ask.
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No problem. man. I enjoy talking ball.
 
hollyhood27 said:
another funny TF story I heard. A HS was paying for his system and ran everything exactly as he called it (didn't tweak etc). Well he got fired and had nothing to do and so he went to the school and called their plays for the State championship game. No idea how true that one is but that Air Raid guys are eccentric like that.
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I wouldn’t doubt it. If u stay true to the system, it could easily be done.
 
Do you mean Modern Warfare? Because I bet you would get a lot more in depth correct information from us on the board here. Truth be told 99.9% of us here have no frickin clue as to modern play calling in football.
 
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KANE said:
No problem. man. I enjoy talking ball.
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As my new expert and knowing there are many other Eagles fans on here, do you think the Eagles offense is what Mario is mythically searching for? It is run dependent with a strong offensive line yet has a OB that can run with two deep threat WRs and a good TE. I have always thought that this would be a model for UM and whimsically suggested on another thread that we should offer OC to Stoutland.
 
SPAMM said:
As my new expert and knowing there are many other Eagles fans on here, do you think the Eagles offense is what Mario is mythically searching for? It is run dependent with a strong offensive line yet has a OB that can run with two deep threat WRs and a good TE. I have always thought that this would be a model for UM and whimsically suggested on another thread that we should offer OC to Stoutland.
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I honestly don’t know, but I think Mario envisions an offense that’s based on our OL being the dominant force that drives it. I don’t think he’s married to one way of thinking, but you bet your *** that it’s gonna be based off of a tough hardnosed OL, running some combination of zone and gap schemes. I don’t think he’ll go full bore “air-raid”, but we will run the football. In his perfect world, I think he wants to be like 55% run 45% pass. What I want to see from new offense, is some motion, some TE/RB screens, as well as some WR screens., the RBs used in the passing game, a good rushing attack, basically a competent offense that builds off of our ability to run the ball..
 
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KANE said:
I honestly don’t know, but I think Mario envisions an offense that’s based on our OL being the dominant force that drives it. I don’t think he’s married to one way of thinking, but you bet your *** that it’s gonna be based off of a tough hardnosed OL, running some combination of zone and gap schemes. I don’t think he’ll go full bore “air-raid”, but we will get run the football. In his perfect world, I think he wants to be like 55% run 45% pass. What I want to see from new offense, is some motion, some TE/RB screens, as well as some WR screens., the RBs used in the passing game, a good rushing attack, basically a competent offense that builds off of our ability to run the ball..
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To add to this I want to see more non screen short passing to counter the blitz. I also want to see better recognition to take what the defense is giving and quick run fakes that may not necessarily be rpo. I really like how Tennessee uses their run fakes to keep the defense honest.

Go back and watch the VT game from 2021. Brashard and Jacolby were electric. They never looked like that under Gattis. When you randomly call plays, the only way to win is with a significant talent advantage. It’s simple stuff. Slant when the defense shows blitz. Throw deep when they press. Throw the curl when they back off until they come up, then go deep again. Use the rpo until the linebackers stop crashing when the quarterback goes into handoff motion.

We got enough speed to win but not enough to overcome lazy/scared play calling. We dont have guys who can run by a dB playing 10-12 yards off. We should scheme like it.
 
TruCane81 said:
To add to this I want to see more non screen short passing to counter the blitz. I also want to see better recognition to take what the defense is giving and quick run fakes that may not necessarily be rpo. I really like how Tennessee uses their run fakes to keep the defense honest.

Go back and watch the VT game from 2021. Brashard and Jacolby were electric. They never looked like that under Gattis. When you randomly call plays, the only way to win is with a significant talent advantage. It’s simple stuff. Slant when the defense shows blitz. Throw deep when they press. Throw the curl when they back off until they come up, then go deep again. Use the rpo until the linebackers stop crashing when the quarterback goes into handoff motion.

We got enough speed to win but not enough to overcome lazy/scared play calling. We dont have guys who can run by a dB playing 10-12 yards off. We should scheme like it.
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It’s because a lot of the Air Raid stuff Lashlee ran is really simple. There’s very few route combinations. You run a lot of the same stuff just from different hashes. There’s also a lot of easy option routes depending on coverage. It’s not crazy Run and Shoot option route stuff with every receiver having multiple options. It’s basically just knowing if/when to cut a route off depending on the type of coverage you’re getting.
 
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