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Trav said:
Then it's a good thing our average and totals were much better than that last night.

You guys are hilarious. Had we magically done something that never happens and just had nothing but 5 yard runs you same guys would be like "our inability to break big runs is very concerning."
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Yes that is a good thing. But he claimed that 3.3 was good and I said no if that was our average, it’d be bad. I responded to a very specific claim he made. How is that hilarious?

To clarify: If we run the ball the way we did against UAB last night, I’d take that all year long. Especially given the fact that we literally lined up and ran essentially the same run play over and over again. We were predictable yet still broke off some pretty good runs. When we vary our play calling, our run game will further benefit.

Of course, we don’t play UAB all season. So, some of us look at last nights rushing performance and say “the overall run statistics don’t tell the whole picture. We couldn’t consistently get push and open run lanes against a G5 team. A G5 team that has inferior athletes compared to ACC caliber athletes. So we probably won’t bust so many long *** runs against teams with more athletic players that can close space more quickly and possess the strength to tackle more consistently.”

Just because some of us wanna see better play and point out some areas we struggled doesn’t mean that we’re unhappy or have some sort of agenda lmfao.

I just wish we opened up more holes against a G5 team. It’d make me feel more confident going into ACC play...
 
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I said if you run 3.3 yards per carry for 3 downs straight you get a first down. Tell me how that is bad. Not statistically comparing to other teams, just explain to me why getting a first down is bad.
 
Kjdcanefan said:
I said if you run 3.3 yards per carry for 3 downs straight you get a first down. Tell me how that is bad. Not statistically comparing to other teams, just explain to me why getting a first down is bad.
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Because that’s an average... You usually don’t get exactly 3.33 ypc.

So if a RB runs for 11 yards. Great, that’s a first down. But if his next three runs are for 2 yards, -1, and 1.2 yards, the average of all the runs would be 3.3.... And we’d be punting to the other team.

And that’s why we punted the ball so many times last night. We’d break off huge runs and then run 3 times for 7 yards.
 
TemplarCane said:
Agreed, all plays count, but this exemplifies the greatness of Barry Sanders rather than dominance of Detroit’s OL.

Same last night. A trio of talented RBs and elite mobile QB made some big plays. I don’t think the OL was physically dominant. And if that’s how the Canes have to generate big plays, so be it. A win is all that matters.
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That's football, though, bro. Great players make plays. Always been that way. This whole dominant OL schtick is a talking point started by guys like Madden and Millen. They did the whole blue collar football guy schtick and started glorifying OL.

At the end of the day, all the great RBs and QBs did it consistently on every team they played on no matter who was on the OL. The one constant was the greatness of the RB or the QB.
 
ThomasM said:
That worked fine against UAB. How is it going to work against teams that go after our run game first and make us beat them through the air? We simply need to be able to pass the ball. This isn't 1975.

There is time to work on things, but I saw a LOT of work needed to be competitive in ACC play. Our passing game needs to work in order for this O to run smoothly long term, so here's hoping they get it fixed. King has a nice arm, but something seemed really off in the passing game. More than just a couple missed passes, it was the inability to even get a guy open. That needs fixing.
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Whether by design or how the game played out, we don't have much on tape to show what needs to be fixed. Also, without spring practice, we don't know how much of the offense has been put in place. Having said that, as was stated in a different thread, it's probably not going to stray much from his roots with Malzahn which is run heavy. That may not please many who were expecting a fast paced air raid offense.

Still, I have to believe more that hasn't been seen for whatever reason. This is going to be a season long process.
 
DTP said:
I hate when people make these types of statements. “If you take away all the good plays, the offense wasn’t that good”. Yeah, no **** Sherlock.
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It’s a problem Canes fans have bad. Too many of our fans see us as our worst plays.

I am always bullish on the Canes because I see us as our best plays and WAY, WAY too often our coaches go away from what we do best to force their philosophies.

When you watch us over time, it becomes obvious that there are certain strategies and styles that are tailor-made for us and allow us to play our best ball. The disheartening thing is we rarely double down on them. When we do, we go to the well too often and get predictable, when we should have been stacking counter plays on top of those effective philosophies.
 
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DTP said:
Louisville next week will be a worse defense than UAB. But I do agree with a lot of your post. The rushing game was strong but could be more consistent. Also, the play calling was incredibly vanilla which led to a lot of those 1 yard runs into a stacked box. They probably ran basic inside zone with no QB read 40 times. I fully expect to see more variety in coming weeks. We got a glimpse of what to expect in the 3rd quarter and then they shut it down.
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That bull**** inside zone run after every 1st down was terrible play calling from Lashlee, if we see it on 9/19 then we know it's a trend.
 
jw410 said:
That bull**** inside zone run after every 1st down was terrible play calling from Lashlee, if we see it on 9/19 then we know it's a trend.
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I didn't like the playcalling the entire game...if not for 2 amazing "individual" efforts by King & Cam...we literally are fighting to Win the game...Playcalling was Horrid...
 
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We had good reps by the O-Line followed by bad reps. Remember, we ran a lot, had a lot of stacked boxes and we rarely tried to mix something up. You could count the run plays we had on one hand.

And if you have a 65-35 run-pass split with sometimes running the ball so obvious that our asses can see whats coming and still get three yards a carry in stacked boxes without the big plays, thats not that bad.
 
Don canon said:
This is like making a chick *** ten times. And her telling you how all strokes where she didn’t *** don’t count. That’s part of the equation shorty it in the build-up.
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That's an analogy none of these dudes will understand. The only time a woman nutted around them was when they were in the corner watching some other dude pound their chick.
 
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