Miami's Decade of Darkness - 2006- 2015

[Ethnicsands]

It was more than 10 years. The minute they hired Larry Coker the decline began. Yeah, we won a title, but honestly, you or I could have coached that team to a title in 2001. Almost any coach in the country could have done it in 2002 as well.

This is a fact. We had 19 first round picks on the ‘01 team. The slide started as soon as Clappy’s Country club started.

We also suffer from a very romanticized history of our own success. We didn't really compete until the late 70's and never made it big until the 80's. Then we had a blitz of success: 4 national titles in 8 years and we played for a few more. We were brash and intoxicating. We were good in the early 90's and then down in the late 90's due to sanctions but it was temporary. Then a blaze of glory from '99 - '03 with the greatest team ever assembled... and then not much to speak of. Our fan base is inpatient because we never had to endure anything like this from the time we arrived on the scene with Schnelly. We also have a fan base that believes every Miami team ever blew opponents out and held teams to 100 yards of total offense while they won games 48-0 every Saturday. Sure we had that, but a lot of our biggest games and best seasons were close. Our blitz of success and an overly romanticized history contribute to the lack of reality sometimes. I'm just as guilty of it. It's hard to win in college football and we made a mockery of it for 20 years. Our fan base was raised on it.

This is a really important point. We have one title since 1991. We had 4 in 8 years culminating in that one. Sure, we probably got screwed in ‘00 and ‘02, but whatever, can’t change the past.

The thing people fail to appreciate is that (a) almost all of our greatness coincided with fortuitously having had the two best talent evaluators ever in cfb as our coaches (JJ and Butch); and (b) talent aside, we won with top-notch coaches (HS, JJ and DE was an innovative coach, just a bad program manager and drunk). ‘01 is an asterisk because 19 first round picks will never happen again.

People act like having a generally competent staff is some sort of accomplishment that ensures we will be ‘back.’ It’s just not true. Winning in CFB is hard, and UM has fewer resources and a tougher dynamic than most top programs. It must evaluate really well, recruit really well, and have a truly good staff. Or it won’t win. History proves this.

 

[SonicYouth]

2006-2015?

have we won a title or been in the title hunt since 2015?

well, we're still in darkness then.

 

[mirednmediocrity2]

2006-2015?

have we won a title or been in the title hunt since 2015?

well, we're still in darkness then.

The biggest problem that will keep us (and most other major CFB programs) from winning titles is the situation at Alabama. As long as they are allowed to operate like they do now, NO ONE else is going to win anything .

 

[SonicYouth]

2006-2015?

have we won a title or been in the title hunt since 2015?

well, we're still in darkness then.

The biggest problem that will keep us (and most other major CFB programs) from winning titles is the situation at Alabama. As long as they are allowed to operate like they do now, NO ONE else is going to win anything .

what does bama have to do with miami being unable to recruit DT's, whiffing on local studs like dalvin cook, running a mickey mouse offense, and hiring stiffs like al golden (the third consecutive stiff, mind you)?

miami's wounds are self inflicted.

if/when we're back, it won't be because the ncaa dropped the hammer on bama. it'll be because the university got its head out of its *** and fully committed to having an elite program.

 

[NJshoreCane]

I'll make the analysis easy for you-

Still not conference champions
Still not major bowl game champions/playing for titles
Still not closing on the highest rated/most heavily recruited players in our area

They were three of my goals as well when Richt arrived.

Other goals on my list:
Winning the Coastal
Getting to a major bowl.
And one we'll be able to check off soon...
Recruiting Top-Ten classes.

Winning Titles is also on my list.
I think you have to raise your expectations.

 

[Morrisey]

If you listen on the 30 for 30 show Davenport said the staff and Coker did nothing that the players ran the practices not the coaches.

Which is complete nonsense.

I guess you know more than the players who were actually there right Larry? Or should I call you Elmer Fudd?

No, I just don't trust a guy who **** in a laundry basket over that of veteran coaches who know the profession.

Dude you and your man hit the gym and pump each other to get rid of some of that frustration you have built up..

This is what someone says when they've got nothing.

 

[LPK2006]

Coker was ripped repeatedly with Butch here as being a horrible OC.

No he wasn't.

Ah yes he was many times..

By a bunch of people like you maybe.

Miami fans love to rip the offensive coordinator, as it is always "play calling" that MUST be the issue with any of our offenses. If Internet message boards had existed in the 1980s, half of our fans would have ripped Gary Stevens, and he was the best OC we've ever had. Stevens would have been mercilessly ripped after the bowl losses to Tennessee and Penn St.

 

[SmokeyRone]

2006-2015?

have we won a title or been in the title hunt since 2015?

well, we're still in darkness then.

The biggest problem that will keep us (and most other major CFB programs) from winning titles is the situation at Alabama. As long as they are allowed to operate like they do now, NO ONE else is going to win anything .

what does bama have to do with miami being unable to recruit DT's, whiffing on local studs like dalvin cook, running a mickey mouse offense, and hiring stiffs like al golden (the third consecutive stiff, mind you)?

miami's wounds are self inflicted.

if/when we're back, it won't be because the ncaa dropped the hammer on bama. it'll be because the university got its head out of its *** and fully committed to having an elite program.

This

 

[TheMatador]

Coker was ripped repeatedly with Butch here as being a horrible OC.

No he wasn't.

Ah yes he was many times..

I remember how people on message boards repeatedly called him "Choker." He was fairly widely trashed by fans. Butch defended him but wouldn't rehire him later on when Butch took over NC and Coker was out of a job.