canesigep23
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thats exactly what im saying?We still need to convince portal qbs?! **** man
How bout Mensah this year and Mali next year win, split the difference
thats exactly what im saying?We still need to convince portal qbs?! **** man
How bout Mensah this year and Mali next year win, split the difference
If Smith's stats don't fall off with Pippin Took throwing him the ball he deserves the Heisman.If Smith doesn't fall off because of a new QB, I feel like Mali needs to do someone beyond pass catching against Notre Dame, like return a punt.
I don't actually want this to happen because I feel like plays like this often backfire for players trying to win the Heisman (Dorsey in 2002 against VT)...BUT...if Mali were to throw a TD pass against Notre Dame, that would probably seal it for him.
Should implement ranked choice votingWith two legit contenders on the same team they end up hurting one another because they split votes of the friendly voters Same thing happened with Dorsey and Willis.
If Mensah makes it to NY that would be 2 Heisman finalists at the QB position for Mario in 3 years.We still need to convince portal qbs?! **** man
How bout Mensah this year and Mali next year win, split the difference
Michael Irvin said he's the best WR he's ever seen. Anywhere.(or)
If we beat ND in South Bend and are 13-0 going into playoffs and Ohio State stumbles again (very possible with a QB who ain't ready) ...
Also, Mensah is a terrific QB for sure, but Mali is 1-of-1.
NFL superstars like Michael Irvin and Reggie Wayne -- who would know -- are calling MT1 the best receiver in school history. Hard to ignore testimony like that.
It just seems like it's gonna be Mali vs. JJ when it comes down to it
I think I had a longer professional career than him.Eric Crouch getting the heisman that year was unbelievable.
Michael Irvin said he's the best WR he's ever seen. Anywhere.
Tell that to Ken Dorsey and Willis McGahee. I have lived through this situation once already my boy.In the end it’s unlikely they’re going to actually split votes. Mali is absolutely Heisman caliber and deserving consideration, but the moment he has a quiet game, his odds shrink. Mali can have an “off” game or two, while Mensah still has a good night statistically, but the opposite is less likely to occur.
In the end it’s going to come down to the Notre Dame game.
My prediction is that if we win it, Darian Mensah will win the Heisman trophy.
carson palmer won in 2002 when dorsey and mcgahee split votes. you’re thinking of 2001.Eric Crouch getting the heisman that year was unbelievable.
Valid, although that was a little different because a QB and RB don't overlap in stats -- they directly take away yardage from each other. Dorsey and McGahee both had Heisman-worthy seasons, but neither had truly eye-popping numbers because there were only so many yards to go around. (I think McGahee had the better Heisman stat line of the two, but with so many stars around him, it was hard to create a narrative that the running game was THE reason the team was so good.)Tell that to Ken Dorsey and Willis McGahee. I have lived through this situation once already my boy.
I think against Notre Dame would be helpful....but it doesn't have to be against them. If he throws a TD or two before the voting...then I think he can cement himself. A punt return for a TD would be the nail in the coffin. Jeremiah Smith can't add any of those to his resume.If Smith doesn't fall off because of a new QB, I feel like Mali needs to do something beyond pass catching against Notre Dame, like return a punt.
I don't actually want this to happen because I feel like plays like this often backfire for players trying to win the Heisman (Dorsey in 2002 against VT)...BUT...if Mali were to throw a TD pass against Notre Dame, that would probably seal it for him.
He had a very good year though. And beat the defending champion on a huge stage with a Heisman highlight moment.
Wrong year, that was 2001.Eric Crouch getting the heisman that year was unbelievable.
They are trying to get Mali to return a punt, but our special teams suck lolI think where Mali takes it away from Mensah is mixing in his runs, returns, and even passes. Both are well deserving, but I think that is what finally separates them. My $.02.
Times were different back then.Crouch?
He also threw 10 picks and only 7 TDs for the season, iirc.
Real Heisman numbers there. Yeah, he ran the option. Whatever. Still a complete joke.
Didn’t stop Devonta smith from winning the heismanWith two legit contenders on the same team they end up hurting one another because they split votes of the friendly voters Same thing happened with Dorsey and Willis.