Miami Starters High School Star Rankings

[Dwinstitles]

This!
What I would like to see is an evaluation rating that averages your top 5 offers in terms of that years ranking. If a 3 star has all top 5 teams offering, you know he’s probably underrated.

Teams will start checking who we recruit once Cole hits the field. We watching Louisville as well and Auburn watches us.

 

[ddann]

They miss though but you still have to pay attention. They grab as much as they can and when they aren’t good in a cfb practise field, they transfer like Marvin jones.

Good point.

And bump for spelling “practiSe” properly.

 

[grover]

My brother, what u provided were the 247 rankings, & not the 247 composite rankings.

Here’s the updated list:
QB - Cam Ward: 0* N/A
RB - Damien Martinez: 3* #48 RB (#600 overall)
RB - Mark Fletcher: 4* #7 RB (#142 overall)
WR - Xavier Restrepo: 3* ATH #36 ATH (#636 overall)
WR - Sam Brown: 3* #77 WR (#448 overall)
WR - Jacolby George: 4* #29 WR (#175 overall)
WR - Isaiah Horton: 4* #56 WR (#372 overall)
TE - Cam McCormick: 3* #23 TE (#539 overall)
TE - Elijah Arroyo: 4* #6 TE (#201 overall)
OL - Jalen Rivers: 4* #12 OT (#128 overall)
OL - Ryan Rodriguez: 3* #26 IOL (#406 overall)
OL - Zach Carpenter: 3* #32 OG (#547 overall)
OL - Anez Cooper: 3* #109 OT (#1149 overall)
OL - Francis Mauigoa: 5* #2 OT (#10 overall)

DE - Ruben Bain: 4* #11 Edge (#63 overall)
DT - Ahkeem Messidor: 3* #28 (636 overall)
DT - Simeon Barrow: 3* #35 DE (#780 overall)
DE - Tyler Baron: 4* #4 DE (#118 overall)
LB - Francisco Mauigoa: 3* #142 LB (#1283 overall)
LB - Wes Bissainthe: 4* #18 LB (#188 overall)
CB - DPJ: 3* #102 CB (#1189 overall)
CB - Damari Brown: 4* #21 CB (#175 overall)
NB - OJF: 3* #67 CB (#779 overall)
SS - Mishael Powell 0* N/A
FS - Jaden Harris: 3* #51 CB (#541 overall)

Now, it’s worth noting:
Martinez, Ward, Powell, Francisco Mauigoa, Messidor, & Brown were all re-evaluated in college & bumped as 4* prospects in the transfer portal.

What this shows is that the HS rankings aren’t an exact science b/c exposure, late blooming, early blooming can all affect these rankings. The teams you play for in HS, the quality of offers u receive in HS all plays a role in these rankings. Once u get on campus, either u live up to high rankings, u were underrated, or u were overrated.

That’s why the new transfer ratings play a role now in the overall class rankings. And, quite frankly, there’s not enough man power in the industry to tediously rank 10’s upon 10’s of thousands of football players not only in the U.S, but now Canada.

The top teams used to address the bolded part by being 4 deep at every position. So if one 4- or 5-star didn't pan out, there'd be 2-3 more waiting in the wings, and the probabilities were high that at least one of the others would. That's why the prior two decades at Miami were so frustrating. We'd think a Forston, a Nesta or an LT would solve our problems at DT. They played well but didn't meet Day 1-2 expectations. And we had no one behind them.

Mario has been an elite HS recruiter for years now. But he only really figured out the portal this past season. So now we're finally getting to that 3-4 deep while at the same time bringing in top proven talent from the portal. That's a powerful ****tail.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Custer led every charge from the front.
But I agree

Custer was a cold-blooded SOB.

One of my ancestors rode with Moseby - and they fought Custer all the time up and down the Shenandoah Valley - and when one of Moseby's Rangers was caught - Custer would hang them.

Moseby retaliated - matching that practice - and finally the HQ in Washington ordered Custer to stop that crap - it was murderous and getting lots of bad press.

So later near the Little Big Horn - Custer went looking for another fight.

He got it.

He certainly didn't go away disappointed.

 

[Hurricane23]

The star system is great to evaluate athleticism, remember everytime you drop a level the game is base more on athleticism, it doesn’t rate how hungry a player is, their work ethic, their toughness, focus etc.

 

[Rellyrell]

Thank you for the correction. Seems like basically the same thing.

Like I was saying there’s no agenda on my end, just an interesting look at how this roster came about

Also there’s ZERO flex about the roster because we haven’t won a **** thing yet

Sometimes when we present star rankings people jump to the conclusion you’re advocating that stars matter or they don’t. Just interesting data here is all

Didn’t think there was an agenda, my boy. I was just highlighting how some of our guys were actually ranked a little worst & some a little better.

Each recruiting site has their own, proprietary formula to determine their rankings. That’s y I do appreciate 247 composition score b/c it does consider all the major sites + theirs.

 

[joeyhh]

Custer was a cold-blooded SOB.

One of my ancestors rode with Moseby - and they fought Custer all the time up and down the Shenandoah Valley - and when one of Moseby's Rangers was caught - Custer would hang them.

Moseby retaliated - matching that practice - and finally the HQ in Washington ordered Custer to stop that crap - it was murderous and getting lots of bad press.

So later near the Little Big Horn - Custer went looking for another fight.

He got it.

He certainly didn't go away disappointed.

Mosby’s Raiders were often out of uniform and, after a raid, would blend in with local farmers and other civilians. This made them spies. The penalty for spies is hanging. The entire war was cold-blooded.
The enormous gathering of the tribes at the Little Big Horn was an aberration. Historically, they would scatter when confronted by the cavalry. Not this time. Custer’s orders were to prevent them from scattering and attack. Incredible mismatch. He was sabataged by incompetent officers, or worse.

 

[LeavingJesusland]

Maui-****-noa

 

[demcanes26]

Thanks for posting this. I like to look back at the star ranking of the starters who bring you back to contender status. Usually, those players are ranked lower, and then you win (conference, sometimes national) championships, and then their replacement are ranked higher, and the party keeps going.

We are building something special, and this is just getting started.

 

[COCane4Life]

Thought this would be fun. For informational purposes only (I’m a Star ***** personally). Lemme know if there are any errors

OFFENSE

Cam Ward: Not Ranked. We know the story here

Damien Martinez: 3 Star #35 RB

Xavier Restrepo: 3 Star #65 ATH (#105 in Florida)
Sam Brown: 4 Star #50 WR
Jacolby George: 3 Star #61 WR

Elijah Arroyo: 4 Star #4 TE

Jalen Rivers: 4 Star #17 OT
Ryan Rodriguez: 3 Star #27 IOL
Zach Carpenter: 3 Star #37 OG
Anez Cooper: 3 Star #154 OT (#65 in Alabama)
Francis Mauigoa: elite elite elite


DEFENSE

Tyler Baron: 4 Star #71 OVR
Simeon Barrow: 3 Star #68 DL
Ahkeem Mesidor: 3 Star #69 SDE
Rueben Bain: 4 Star #71 OVR (same as Baron)

Wes Bissainthe: 4 Star #206 OVR
Francisco Mauigoa: 3 Star #153 LB

OJ Frederique: 3 Star #66 CB
Jaden Harris: 3 Star #38 CB
Meesh Powell: 3 Star #191 CB
Daryl Porter Jr: 3 Star #89 CB
Damari Brown: 4 Star #173 OVR

Mentality can’t be judged in player rankings and it it’s arguably the most important indicator of future success.

 

[561Cane]

Keep doing what you’re doing Cristobal..replace Ward and Restrepo for 2025 and we’re in the playoffs again!!

#LetsGo!!

 

[UMFarArcher]

Mosby’s Raiders were often out of uniform and, after a raid, would blend in with local farmers and other civilians. This made them spies. The penalty for spies is hanging. The entire war was cold-blooded.
The enormous gathering of the tribes at the Little Big Horn was an aberration. Historically, they would scatter when confronted by the cavalry. Not this time. Custer’s orders were to prevent them from scattering and attack. Incredible mismatch. He was sabataged by incompetent officers, or worse.

They were recognized for what they were, they were organized in Companies, and half the Confederate Army had no uniform - just what they had for themselves.

When DC ordered him to cease just hanging the Rangers - you know better than that blunt excuse of being out of uniform. I've never seen an official Confederate uniform anywhere. If you could show up with a horse - they made you an officer. If you could lead fifteen or twenty men when you joined up - you were a Colonel.

The group at Little Big Horn was certainly large - but that arrogant jackass believed his own BS - separated his forces - ignored his scouts - and there's no way his small force could corral that many Indians.

He wasn't sabotaged by his officers - he was full of himself - arrogant - an idiot. I've been there - it's not like there was a secret or hidden force that suddenly showed up to change the fight. Only a few trees along the river.

He was a fool. His tactics violated a number of basic military principles learned and known over millennia.

His military career wasn't all that. He actually became more famous - by getting himself - kilt.

 

[FrancisSawyer]

Yeah stars for sure matter

Just always interesting to see how it plays out especially when we’ve had some decent classes and so many absolute busts

Now that it seems that this team has taken a huge step forward, I think we can expect many more 4 and 5 star types in the starting lineup by 2027 if things continue the way they are trending.

 

[joeyhh]

They were recognized for what they were, they were organized in Companies, and half the Confederate Army had no uniform - just what they had for themselves.

When DC ordered him to cease just hanging the Rangers - you know better than that blunt excuse of being out of uniform. I've never seen an official Confederate uniform anywhere. If you could show up with a horse - they made you an officer. If you could lead fifteen or twenty men when you joined up - you were a Colonel.

The group at Little Big Horn was certainly large - but that arrogant jackass believed his own BS - separated his forces - ignored his scouts - and there's no way his small force could corral that many Indians.

He wasn't sabotaged by his officers - he was full of himself - arrogant - an idiot. I've been there - it's not like there was a secret or hidden force that suddenly showed up to change the fight. Only a few trees along the river.

He was a fool. His tactics violated a number of basic military principles learned and known over millennia.

His military career wasn't all that. He actually became more famous - by getting himself - kilt.

Good point about the uniforms, but Mosby’s tactics of blending with the civilians after raids certainly made them more spies than soldiers.
Regarding Custer, your hatred of the man is palpable. The historical record tells us that many hated and many loved him. But most agree his Civil War exploits were spectacular - fearless, aggressive, sometimes wreckless. His commander Phil Sheridan greatly admired Custer the soldier and gifted him the desk used when Lee surrendered to Grant at Appomattox Court House.
I’ve been to the LBH battlefield five times. I’m a serious student of the battle. The debate is endless. He should have heeded his scouts warnings but the size of this encampment was unprecedented, and they always scatter. His orders were to prevent that. If you recall, the surrounding topography with the rolling hills prevents any view of the valley until you arrive.

Anyway, I’ve watched Saturday’s game three times. I much prefer that slaughter.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Good point about the uniforms, but Mosby’s tactics of blending with the civilians after raids certainly made them more spies than soldiers.
Regarding Custer, your hatred of the man is palpable. The historical record tells us that many hated and many loved him. But most agree his Civil War exploits were spectacular - fearless, aggressive, sometimes wreckless. His commander Phil Sheridan greatly admired Custer the soldier and gifted him the desk used when Lee surrendered to Grant at Appomattox Court House.
I’ve been to the LBH battlefield five times. I’m a serious student of the battle. The debate is endless. He should have heeded his scouts warnings but the size of this encampment was unprecedented, and they always scatter. His orders were to prevent that. If you recall, the surrounding topography with the rolling hills prevents any view of the valley until you arrive. I wonder what you would have done?

Anyway, I’ve watched Saturday’s game three times. I much prefer that slaughter.

I also have an ancestor that fought as a Ranger in King Philip's War - before there was a US - the first war fought here.

I've been around long enough to not hate. I never hated my enemies - I was just there tasked to hunt them find them, and cancel them. So I don't hate Custer - but I strongly detest his behavior against his prisoners and the native tribes.

His scouts from a long distance knew and told him this was a very large force. McArthur was told that the Chinese were jumping across the border into Korea - and he too - ignored the facts. Two dumba**es. Suffered from the same affliction - they were full of **** and full of themselves.

He also committed a slaughter killing men, women, and children at the Wa****a. Many shot in the back as they tried to run away. So was Black Kettle and his wife.

At the Little Big Horn, he left his guns behind. He broke up into groups - something he practiced regularly, rather than provide a concentrated - mutually supporting force - which you asked - I would have done. He gave up good high terrain - and the idiot went running down into a dip to cross the river - and was turned back. By then, he was tactically surrounded - operationally surrounded.

The reason the Indians normally scattered from him - they were smaller in number. Not this time.

The native Americans at the location also have their site - and as I told a Lakota inside as well, "he fought against my people too - but your people succeeded where we failed."

 

[coffeecane]

Thought this would be fun. For informational purposes only (I’m a Star ***** personally). Lemme know if there are any errors

OFFENSE

Cam Ward: Not Ranked. We know the story here

Damien Martinez: 3 Star #35 RB

Xavier Restrepo: 3 Star #65 ATH (#105 in Florida)
Sam Brown: 4 Star #50 WR
Jacolby George: 3 Star #61 WR

Elijah Arroyo: 4 Star #4 TE

Jalen Rivers: 4 Star #17 OT
Ryan Rodriguez: 3 Star #27 IOL
Zach Carpenter: 3 Star #37 OG
Anez Cooper: 3 Star #154 OT (#65 in Alabama)
Francis Mauigoa: elite elite elite


DEFENSE

Tyler Baron: 4 Star #71 OVR
Simeon Barrow: 3 Star #68 DL
Ahkeem Mesidor: 3 Star #69 SDE
Rueben Bain: 4 Star #71 OVR (same as Baron)

Wes Bissainthe: 4 Star #206 OVR
Francisco Mauigoa: 3 Star #153 LB

OJ Frederique: 3 Star #66 CB
Jaden Harris: 3 Star #38 CB
Meesh Powell: 3 Star #191 CB
Daryl Porter Jr: 3 Star #89 CB
Damari Brown: 4 Star #173 OVR

That's some development right there. NFL esque

 

[N25.45W81.21]

Lizards got their asses waxed by 3 Stario

 

[joeyhh]

I also have an ancestor that fought as a Ranger in King Philip's War - before there was a US - the first war fought here.

I've been around long enough to not hate. I never hated my enemies - I was just there tasked to hunt them find them, and cancel them. So I don't hate Custer - but I strongly detest his behavior against his prisoners and the native tribes.

His scouts from a long distance knew and told him this was a very large force. McArthur was told that the Chinese were jumping across the border into Korea - and he too - ignored the facts. Two dumba**es. Suffered from the same affliction - they were full of **** and full of themselves.

He also committed a slaughter killing men, women, and children at the Wa****a. Many shot in the back as they tried to run away. So was Black Kettle and his wife.

At the Little Big Horn, he left his guns behind. He broke up into groups - something he practiced regularly, rather than provide a concentrated - mutually supporting force - which you asked - I would have done. He gave up good high terrain - and the idiot went running down into a dip to cross the river - and was turned back. By then, he was tactically surrounded - operationally surrounded.

The reason the Indians normally scattered from him - they were smaller in number. Not this time.

The native Americans at the location also have their site - and as I told a Lakota inside as well, "he fought against my people too - but your people succeeded where we failed."

Gatling guns would have been an anchor on the march.
2200 Indian combatants v a few hundred soldiers. You would have charged into the valley?
Most agree he was attempting to cross the river to capture the women, children and oldsters, forcing a surrender.
Benteen dawdled even after getting Custer’s note from Trumpeter Martin. He hated ‘the idiot’ (your word).

6:00 pm Saturday. Let’s go!!!

 

[UMFarArcher]

Gatling guns would have been an anchor on the march.
2200 Indian combatants v a few hundred soldiers. You would have charged into the valley?
Most agree he was attempting to cross the river to capture the women, children and oldsters, forcing a surrender.
Benteen dawdled even after getting Custer’s note from Trumpeter Martin. He hated ‘the idiot’ (your word).

6:00 pm Saturday. Let’s go!!!

No. I'd have taken up a position on the high ground - as military men for millennia have known to do.

Yes, he probably was trying to get to the women and children - but he failed and ran out of time and space. That happens when you go off half-****ed.

Yep - Benteen lived, too.