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TheOriginalCane said:
Please stop with this nonsense.

Our ****** ADs, including Skinny Shawn and Beta Blake, could have and should have pushed back. But they didn't.

Somehow...you never see these "garbage alternatives" forced on schools like Michigan and Penn State and Alabama and Georgia...

But you know WHO ELSE had a horrible "garbage alternative"...

A certain school from Hogtown, with an Athletic Director who also didn't push the **** back up the chute...

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I seriously don’t know why people cannot comprehend this.

If we told Nike to make us our classic uniforms, they would do it - just like they do for Alabama, LSU, etc.
 
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People acting like croots go to schools almost exclusively because of “fresh” alternate uniforms…

USC
Texas
Bama
UGA
LSU
OSU
Michigan

Are consistent top 10 recruiters and don’t have yearly “fresh” alternates that kids would flaunt like Maryland, Oregon( check their classes between chip and Mario)…
 
Canedude08 said:
Not only did they give us crap, they then tried to F us on the money side. The entire negotiation was a farce and they dared Miami to call their bluff. Amazing how some people love a shoe company more than the school.
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Kinda like adidas guaranteeing us top tier school money and within two years made LOSERville their “top school” and conveniently never paid us until someone on our side years later reread the agreement
 
Canedude08 said:
Not only did they give us crap, they then tried to F us on the money side. The entire negotiation was a farce and they dared Miami to call their bluff. Amazing how some people love a shoe company more than the school.
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How long has it been? Six months? Or a year since the last time you tried to peddle this bull****?

You're wrong. You keep spreading falsehoods. The only company that "tried to F us on the money side" was adidas. NOT NIKE. We have already explained how Beta Blake converted merch and equipment into cash payments. We have already explained how and why a COMMON INDUSTRY STANDARD of a heavy-royalty/lower-guarantee contract would have been better for Miami.

But you keep spinning this mythical untrue bull**** about how "Nike tried to F us on the money side". It's simply not true.

The REASON why so many schools use Nike is BECAUSE Nike is solid on the money side. And not struggling to pay bills like Under Armour. And not getting involved in FBI investigations and Kanye West debacles like adidas.
 
McGahee2TheHouse said:
I seriously don’t know why people cannot comprehend this.

If we told Nike to make us our classic uniforms, they would do it - just like they do for Alabama, LSU, etc.
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Exactly.

We cannot be forced to wear uniforms that we do not want.

We REFUSED to wear the Miami Nights jersey in 2022.

Yes, Nike is capable of making "fashion mistakes", but we are not obligated to wear those uniforms. However, if an idiot AD signs off (as happened multiple times in the past), then, YES, we are on the hook.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Exactly.

We cannot be forced to wear uniforms that we do not want.

We REFUSED to wear the Miami Nights jersey in 2022.

Yes, Nike is capable of making "fashion mistakes", but we are not obligated to wear those uniforms. However, if an idiot AD signs off (as happened multiple times in the past), then, YES, we are on the hook.
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I see people saying this in this thread as a pro Nike point, but then another pro Nike point being made is that Adidas didn’t give us money owed because no one in our AD department knew the contract terms they signed up for. Can’t have it both ways, is it the apparel company or the AD for not giving a ****?
 
305_separatist said:
I see people saying this in this thread as a pro Nike point, but then another pro Nike point being made is that Adidas didn’t give us money owed because no one in our AD department knew the contract terms they signed up for. Can’t have it both ways, is it the apparel company or the AD for not giving a ****?
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Huh?

You are trying to equate apples and oranges.

On the uniform side...Nike and adidas don't just make stuff up on their own. First, they have to see if the school is interested in wearing something different. As I pointed out, there are numerous "traditional uniform schools" that do not change up there jerseys/helmets at all. Unless you think Nike has some top-secret vault of alternate Ped State and Alabama jerseys...

Then, if Nike (or adidas, or anyone) gets too crazy with the uniforms, you can always just say "no" and wear the existing uniforms.

This is DIFFERENT from the monetary issue. Nobody said that "no one in our AD department knew the contract terms they signed up for". They absolutely knew the terms, but were lazy in monitoring whether adidas was in compliance. It takes a little bit of effort to monitor your competitors to make sure you are getting the benefits of your "most favored nations" clause. But the larger blame goes to adidas, who ABSOLUTELY knew they were in violation of their own contract terms. There is secondary blame to apportion to Beta Blake for not staying on top of things.

And, to be clear, pointing out that adidas breached its own contract is NOT a "pro-Nike" point, it's simply an anti-adidas point. When people say "Nike screwed us out of money", I accurately pointed out (a) Nike did no such thing, and (b) adidas absolutely did such a thing. Those are independent points. Pointing out something bad that adidas did is not a "pro-Nike" statement.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Huh?

You are trying to equate apples and oranges.

On the uniform side...Nike and adidas don't just make stuff up on their own. First, they have to see if the school is interested in wearing something different. As I pointed out, there are numerous "traditional uniform schools" that do not change up there jerseys/helmets at all. Unless you think Nike has some top-secret vault of alternate Ped State and Alabama jerseys...

Then, if Nike (or adidas, or anyone) gets too crazy with the uniforms, you can always just say "no" and wear the existing uniforms.

This is DIFFERENT from the monetary issue. Nobody said that "no one in our AD department knew the contract terms they signed up for". They absolutely knew the terms, but were lazy in monitoring whether adidas was in compliance. It takes a little bit of effort to monitor your competitors to make sure you are getting the benefits of your "most favored nations" clause. But the larger blame goes to adidas, who ABSOLUTELY knew they were in violation of their own contract terms. There is secondary blame to apportion to Beta Blake for not staying on top of things.

And, to be clear, pointing out that adidas breached its own contract is NOT a "pro-Nike" point, it's simply an anti-adidas point. When people say "Nike screwed us out of money", I accurately pointed out (a) Nike did no such thing, and (b) adidas absolutely did such a thing. Those are independent points. Pointing out something bad that adidas did is not a "pro-Nike" statement.
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Point is our AD has consistently sucked. In that time Nike gave us terrible uni designs, and Adidas by and large has been so much better. Again, under the same AD strategy and culture of not giving a ****.

Could they have stepped in after seeing the product and told Nike to F off? Of course, but it doesn’t appear they ever needed to with Adidas at any point. Not all of them are great but none of them have been vomit inducing.

I’m just addressing posts in this thread asking to go back to Nike because of these (imo decent) jerseys as if they didn’t do way worse with their specials by any objective metric.
 
305_separatist said:
Could they have stepped in after seeing the product and told Nike to F off? Of course, but it doesn’t appear they ever needed to with Adidas at any point.
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Checkmate.

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305_separatist said:
I see you and I raise
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But that's not what you said and it's not a competition. You said that we never had to push back against adidas, and I disproved that with one photo.

Besides, the REASON that we have such simplistic stuff every year from 2016-2023 is BECAUSE those 2015 uniforms were so horrible, the worst that Miami ever had. And they were our PRIMARY uniforms, not some one-off alternate jersey.

So just stop comparing apples to oranges.

And you don't "raise" in chess. I checkmated you. Game over...
 
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