miami nc state talk....back at it again

Easily the best fan vids by any Canes fan. I wish you did more vids!

So you replaced the smoke detector for a bird? Well played!

As usual you were spot on about everything even the election.

Hope you are recovering from your surgery at a rapid pace homie. Preach on!

**** good looks bruh appreciate the love....i was in recovery mode so imma do more mos def
 
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You were preaching bro!!!!!

We need way more talent at the skills position & that's why I've been getting kinda ****ed at the staff now because I feel like they need to be way more aggressive than they are, but I'm still gonna be patient & give them time.

But you're 100% correct, there should never be a time when Miami doesn't have speed at CB, WR & RB...

It might take another recruiting cycle, but this staff has to start getting the top South Fla kids to stay home, whatever it takes, whatever they gotta pay, they just need to get it done & stop letting these kids leave.

**** hasme ****ed that we look slow in those areas

They have to offer similar to what those schools offer......off deck though i mean

You trippin bruh... How can you judge this staff & the players they bring in when you still have basically 100% of the previous staffs players here... you gotta let cmr get in some of his recruits before you can judge what he's doing.

I hear u and partially agree with u.....i agree he has to get his guys. But which of his guys r actually "his guys" if u fail on ur main targets then u really never got ur guy.
My thing is u gotta keep the richards and juedys in miami...u cant have an up year in recruiting followed by a lower level second class....thats a recipe for failure.....so far imo this class is ok as of right now...it can change for better or worse...the one thing i do like is he recognizes ballers like bandy who wouldn't of got an offer under AG....the bad news is that hes hiding his prospects which shows me fear that other schools will poach and they arent confident in holding up other $chools

Understood. I'm not saying this as a way to give Richt an excuse or anything else. I don't know if you ever played high level sports (college or beyond)but recruiting isn't a 1 year or in alot of instances even 2 year thing for these big time kids. I was a 2 time 2nd team all American in high school & a 2x all American for baseball. I was recruited even heavier for baseball (8th grade year & beyond) by all the major schools and several MLB squads) football recruiting was light in 9th grade mainly because schools knew who my father is and my godparents. 10th grade & beyond **** was insane. Point is richt is gonna have his first class this year. Kids are gonna start seeing the results good or bad of his program starting next year. Already seeing his system now he just needs some kids he recruited. Trust well be fine. Also I really think it's important people catch up to reality instead of these fantasies when it comes to miami recruiting in our day... other than every blue moon we've never been some recruiting monster. We've taken under appreciated kids that we really liked & that had a chip on their shoulder & coached them up. That's the reality of um football.well get the majority of local kids that we really want but that doesn't mean they are the kids our fan base really wants. People now are simply far too opinionated about topics they previously had no real knowledge of. If butch was the answer for all of yall & u just all of a sudden forgot about all the complaints & shortcomings the fan base had for him then the good news is now yall can go cheer for Lil um aka FIU with butch & Pete Garcia. & it's a better answer for most far as the stadium is concerned. So it's been made easy to switch over.

I just want to point out one thingabout ur post.....the under the radar stuff is long gone. There isntadvantages like that no more. Reed Lewis would not go unoticed in this age u less they never camped. Kids want the exposure and offers and there so many camps that its hard to find a diamond in the rough. These kids want there egos stroked and twitter followers and bytches....we used to be able to identify snag and bag....we cant no more the age of social media hurt us in that area.
 
**** hasme ****ed that we look slow in those areas

They have to offer similar to what those schools offer......off deck though i mean

You trippin bruh... How can you judge this staff & the players they bring in when you still have basically 100% of the previous staffs players here... you gotta let cmr get in some of his recruits before you can judge what he's doing.

I hear u and partially agree with u.....i agree he has to get his guys. But which of his guys r actually "his guys" if u fail on ur main targets then u really never got ur guy.
My thing is u gotta keep the richards and juedys in miami...u cant have an up year in recruiting followed by a lower level second class....thats a recipe for failure.....so far imo this class is ok as of right now...it can change for better or worse...the one thing i do like is he recognizes ballers like bandy who wouldn't of got an offer under AG....the bad news is that hes hiding his prospects which shows me fear that other schools will poach and they arent confident in holding up other $chools

Understood. I'm not saying this as a way to give Richt an excuse or anything else. I don't know if you ever played high level sports (college or beyond)but recruiting isn't a 1 year or in alot of instances even 2 year thing for these big time kids. I was a 2 time 2nd team all American in high school & a 2x all American for baseball. I was recruited even heavier for baseball (8th grade year & beyond) by all the major schools and several MLB squads) football recruiting was light in 9th grade mainly because schools knew who my father is and my godparents. 10th grade & beyond **** was insane. Point is richt is gonna have his first class this year. Kids are gonna start seeing the results good or bad of his program starting next year. Already seeing his system now he just needs some kids he recruited. Trust well be fine. Also I really think it's important people catch up to reality instead of these fantasies when it comes to miami recruiting in our day... other than every blue moon we've never been some recruiting monster. We've taken under appreciated kids that we really liked & that had a chip on their shoulder & coached them up. That's the reality of um football.well get the majority of local kids that we really want but that doesn't mean they are the kids our fan base really wants. People now are simply far too opinionated about topics they previously had no real knowledge of. If butch was the answer for all of yall & u just all of a sudden forgot about all the complaints & shortcomings the fan base had for him then the good news is now yall can go cheer for Lil um aka FIU with butch & Pete Garcia. & it's a better answer for most far as the stadium is concerned. So it's been made easy to switch over.

I just want to point out one thingabout ur post.....the under the radar stuff is long gone. There isntadvantages like that no more. Reed Lewis would not go unoticed in this age u less they never camped. Kids want the exposure and offers and there so many camps that its hard to find a diamond in the rough. These kids want there egos stroked and twitter followers and bytches....we used to be able to identify snag and bag....we cant no more the age of social media hurt us in that area.

Allen hurns,Denzel Perryman, any 3 star kid. You're far off on that regard.any scout down here would tell you that. Ratings come from exposure & hits on certain websites. There's just too much talent to properly judge all of it. Look at Lamar Jackson. He was nowhere near a sure thing coming out. Most big time recruits would tell you camps are overated. Most of them aren't about competition. They are about measurable. I wanna know how a kid competes. Measurable don't tell you what a kid has in his heart. Look at bandy. He's the perfect example,deejay too.
 
When I saw the title, I was sure it was Caneshades. :yaoface:

If u wantto hearwwe commentary and pats on the back then do listen to him.....u getting the truth here and only that

I honestly didn't know there was another fan doing commentary. That guy often crosses the line to flat-out embarrassing, so it wasn't meant as a put-down to you at all.

I been doing this since last year i think as requested by some members so i ran wit it.....nah im never goingto act just gonna be me n speak that real **** always. I wont always be right but hey no ones always right.
 
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You trippin bruh... How can you judge this staff & the players they bring in when you still have basically 100% of the previous staffs players here... you gotta let cmr get in some of his recruits before you can judge what he's doing.

I hear u and partially agree with u.....i agree he has to get his guys. But which of his guys r actually "his guys" if u fail on ur main targets then u really never got ur guy.
My thing is u gotta keep the richards and juedys in miami...u cant have an up year in recruiting followed by a lower level second class....thats a recipe for failure.....so far imo this class is ok as of right now...it can change for better or worse...the one thing i do like is he recognizes ballers like bandy who wouldn't of got an offer under AG....the bad news is that hes hiding his prospects which shows me fear that other schools will poach and they arent confident in holding up other $chools

Understood. I'm not saying this as a way to give Richt an excuse or anything else. I don't know if you ever played high level sports (college or beyond)but recruiting isn't a 1 year or in alot of instances even 2 year thing for these big time kids. I was a 2 time 2nd team all American in high school & a 2x all American for baseball. I was recruited even heavier for baseball (8th grade year & beyond) by all the major schools and several MLB squads) football recruiting was light in 9th grade mainly because schools knew who my father is and my godparents. 10th grade & beyond **** was insane. Point is richt is gonna have his first class this year. Kids are gonna start seeing the results good or bad of his program starting next year. Already seeing his system now he just needs some kids he recruited. Trust well be fine. Also I really think it's important people catch up to reality instead of these fantasies when it comes to miami recruiting in our day... other than every blue moon we've never been some recruiting monster. We've taken under appreciated kids that we really liked & that had a chip on their shoulder & coached them up. That's the reality of um football.well get the majority of local kids that we really want but that doesn't mean they are the kids our fan base really wants. People now are simply far too opinionated about topics they previously had no real knowledge of. If butch was the answer for all of yall & u just all of a sudden forgot about all the complaints & shortcomings the fan base had for him then the good news is now yall can go cheer for Lil um aka FIU with butch & Pete Garcia. & it's a better answer for most far as the stadium is concerned. So it's been made easy to switch over.

I just want to point out one thingabout ur post.....the under the radar stuff is long gone. There isntadvantages like that no more. Reed Lewis would not go unoticed in this age u less they never camped. Kids want the exposure and offers and there so many camps that its hard to find a diamond in the rough. These kids want there egos stroked and twitter followers and bytches....we used to be able to identify snag and bag....we cant no more the age of social media hurt us in that area.

Allen hurns,Denzel Perryman, any 3 star kid. You're far off on that regard.any scout down here would tell you that. Ratings come from exposure & hits on certain websites. There's just too much talent to properly judge all of it. Look at Lamar Jackson. He was nowhere near a sure thing coming out. Most big time recruits would tell you camps are overated. Most of them aren't about competition. They are about measurable. I wanna know how a kid competes. Measurable don't tell you what a kid has in his heart. Look at bandy. He's the perfect example,deejay too.

Deejay was being courted by bama big time and bandy was OU and hehad other offers everyone knows who they r. We all knew perryman was legit Hurns few knew abouti givr u that......but we cantfield a whole roster of diamonds or we will be where we r now stuck in the mud. I hear what ur saying n u do make good points i just choose to be on the other side of it being that we need those elite kids. U more experienced then my *** i played some street **** no equipment with mike brown uva and will hill and i quit my baseball team long story......the streets thats what happened...thro that in the next vid lol
 
You trippin bruh... How can you judge this staff & the players they bring in when you still have basically 100% of the previous staffs players here... you gotta let cmr get in some of his recruits before you can judge what he's doing.

I hear u and partially agree with u.....i agree he has to get his guys. But which of his guys r actually "his guys" if u fail on ur main targets then u really never got ur guy.
My thing is u gotta keep the richards and juedys in miami...u cant have an up year in recruiting followed by a lower level second class....thats a recipe for failure.....so far imo this class is ok as of right now...it can change for better or worse...the one thing i do like is he recognizes ballers like bandy who wouldn't of got an offer under AG....the bad news is that hes hiding his prospects which shows me fear that other schools will poach and they arent confident in holding up other $chools

Understood. I'm not saying this as a way to give Richt an excuse or anything else. I don't know if you ever played high level sports (college or beyond)but recruiting isn't a 1 year or in alot of instances even 2 year thing for these big time kids. I was a 2 time 2nd team all American in high school & a 2x all American for baseball. I was recruited even heavier for baseball (8th grade year & beyond) by all the major schools and several MLB squads) football recruiting was light in 9th grade mainly because schools knew who my father is and my godparents. 10th grade & beyond **** was insane. Point is richt is gonna have his first class this year. Kids are gonna start seeing the results good or bad of his program starting next year. Already seeing his system now he just needs some kids he recruited. Trust well be fine. Also I really think it's important people catch up to reality instead of these fantasies when it comes to miami recruiting in our day... other than every blue moon we've never been some recruiting monster. We've taken under appreciated kids that we really liked & that had a chip on their shoulder & coached them up. That's the reality of um football.well get the majority of local kids that we really want but that doesn't mean they are the kids our fan base really wants. People now are simply far too opinionated about topics they previously had no real knowledge of. If butch was the answer for all of yall & u just all of a sudden forgot about all the complaints & shortcomings the fan base had for him then the good news is now yall can go cheer for Lil um aka FIU with butch & Pete Garcia. & it's a better answer for most far as the stadium is concerned. So it's been made easy to switch over.

I just want to point out one thingabout ur post.....the under the radar stuff is long gone. There isntadvantages like that no more. Reed Lewis would not go unoticed in this age u less they never camped. Kids want the exposure and offers and there so many camps that its hard to find a diamond in the rough. These kids want there egos stroked and twitter followers and bytches....we used to be able to identify snag and bag....we cant no more the age of social media hurt us in that area.

Allen hurns,Denzel Perryman, any 3 star kid. You're far off on that regard.any scout down here would tell you that. Ratings come from exposure & hits on certain websites. There's just too much talent to properly judge all of it. Look at Lamar Jackson. He was nowhere near a sure thing coming out. Most big time recruits would tell you camps are overated. Most of them aren't about competition. They are about measurable. I wanna know how a kid competes. Measurable don't tell you what a kid has in his heart. Look at bandy. He's the perfect example,deejay too.

U make alot of points especially about LJ.....my thing is how a school knows about a kid in our area and we dont? I have to see how these guys evaluate one thats a big thing and then closing and sealing the deal.
 
I hear u and partially agree with u.....i agree he has to get his guys. But which of his guys r actually "his guys" if u fail on ur main targets then u really never got ur guy.
My thing is u gotta keep the richards and juedys in miami...u cant have an up year in recruiting followed by a lower level second class....thats a recipe for failure.....so far imo this class is ok as of right now...it can change for better or worse...the one thing i do like is he recognizes ballers like bandy who wouldn't of got an offer under AG....the bad news is that hes hiding his prospects which shows me fear that other schools will poach and they arent confident in holding up other $chools

Understood. I'm not saying this as a way to give Richt an excuse or anything else. I don't know if you ever played high level sports (college or beyond)but recruiting isn't a 1 year or in alot of instances even 2 year thing for these big time kids. I was a 2 time 2nd team all American in high school & a 2x all American for baseball. I was recruited even heavier for baseball (8th grade year & beyond) by all the major schools and several MLB squads) football recruiting was light in 9th grade mainly because schools knew who my father is and my godparents. 10th grade & beyond **** was insane. Point is richt is gonna have his first class this year. Kids are gonna start seeing the results good or bad of his program starting next year. Already seeing his system now he just needs some kids he recruited. Trust well be fine. Also I really think it's important people catch up to reality instead of these fantasies when it comes to miami recruiting in our day... other than every blue moon we've never been some recruiting monster. We've taken under appreciated kids that we really liked & that had a chip on their shoulder & coached them up. That's the reality of um football.well get the majority of local kids that we really want but that doesn't mean they are the kids our fan base really wants. People now are simply far too opinionated about topics they previously had no real knowledge of. If butch was the answer for all of yall & u just all of a sudden forgot about all the complaints & shortcomings the fan base had for him then the good news is now yall can go cheer for Lil um aka FIU with butch & Pete Garcia. & it's a better answer for most far as the stadium is concerned. So it's been made easy to switch over.

I just want to point out one thingabout ur post.....the under the radar stuff is long gone. There isntadvantages like that no more. Reed Lewis would not go unoticed in this age u less they never camped. Kids want the exposure and offers and there so many camps that its hard to find a diamond in the rough. These kids want there egos stroked and twitter followers and bytches....we used to be able to identify snag and bag....we cant no more the age of social media hurt us in that area.

Allen hurns,Denzel Perryman, any 3 star kid. You're far off on that regard.any scout down here would tell you that. Ratings come from exposure & hits on certain websites. There's just too much talent to properly judge all of it. Look at Lamar Jackson. He was nowhere near a sure thing coming out. Most big time recruits would tell you camps are overated. Most of them aren't about competition. They are about measurable. I wanna know how a kid competes. Measurable don't tell you what a kid has in his heart. Look at bandy. He's the perfect example,deejay too.

Deejay was being courted by bama big time and bandy was OU and hehad other offers everyone knows who they r. We all knew perryman was legit Hurns few knew abouti givr u that......but we cantfield a whole roster of diamonds or we will be where we r now stuck in the mud. I hear what ur saying n u do make good points i just choose to be on the other side of it being that we need those elite kids. U more experienced then my *** i played some street **** no equipment with mike brown uva and will hill and i quit my baseball team long story......the streets thats what happened...thro that in the next vid lol

Nah.I feel u 100% I'm just saying not in all instances but kids do still slip by. We can't always rely on websites to tell us what's real. Most of them are simply interested in subscribers & twisting or flat out lie about what kids say anyhow. I guess my only thing is as a fan base & as a people (myself included)we need to learn to trust in something bigger than us & what we see. This victims mentality **** simply stops progress. I'm ranting now so I'll shut up. Just trust the staff. We actually have a good one now.
 
I hear u and partially agree with u.....i agree he has to get his guys. But which of his guys r actually "his guys" if u fail on ur main targets then u really never got ur guy.
My thing is u gotta keep the richards and juedys in miami...u cant have an up year in recruiting followed by a lower level second class....thats a recipe for failure.....so far imo this class is ok as of right now...it can change for better or worse...the one thing i do like is he recognizes ballers like bandy who wouldn't of got an offer under AG....the bad news is that hes hiding his prospects which shows me fear that other schools will poach and they arent confident in holding up other $chools

Understood. I'm not saying this as a way to give Richt an excuse or anything else. I don't know if you ever played high level sports (college or beyond)but recruiting isn't a 1 year or in alot of instances even 2 year thing for these big time kids. I was a 2 time 2nd team all American in high school & a 2x all American for baseball. I was recruited even heavier for baseball (8th grade year & beyond) by all the major schools and several MLB squads) football recruiting was light in 9th grade mainly because schools knew who my father is and my godparents. 10th grade & beyond **** was insane. Point is richt is gonna have his first class this year. Kids are gonna start seeing the results good or bad of his program starting next year. Already seeing his system now he just needs some kids he recruited. Trust well be fine. Also I really think it's important people catch up to reality instead of these fantasies when it comes to miami recruiting in our day... other than every blue moon we've never been some recruiting monster. We've taken under appreciated kids that we really liked & that had a chip on their shoulder & coached them up. That's the reality of um football.well get the majority of local kids that we really want but that doesn't mean they are the kids our fan base really wants. People now are simply far too opinionated about topics they previously had no real knowledge of. If butch was the answer for all of yall & u just all of a sudden forgot about all the complaints & shortcomings the fan base had for him then the good news is now yall can go cheer for Lil um aka FIU with butch & Pete Garcia. & it's a better answer for most far as the stadium is concerned. So it's been made easy to switch over.

I just want to point out one thingabout ur post.....the under the radar stuff is long gone. There isntadvantages like that no more. Reed Lewis would not go unoticed in this age u less they never camped. Kids want the exposure and offers and there so many camps that its hard to find a diamond in the rough. These kids want there egos stroked and twitter followers and bytches....we used to be able to identify snag and bag....we cant no more the age of social media hurt us in that area.

Allen hurns,Denzel Perryman, any 3 star kid. You're far off on that regard.any scout down here would tell you that. Ratings come from exposure & hits on certain websites. There's just too much talent to properly judge all of it. Look at Lamar Jackson. He was nowhere near a sure thing coming out. Most big time recruits would tell you camps are overated. Most of them aren't about competition. They are about measurable. I wanna know how a kid competes. Measurable don't tell you what a kid has in his heart. Look at bandy. He's the perfect example,deejay too.

U make alot of points especially about LJ.....my thing is how a school knows about a kid in our area and we dont? I have to see how these guys evaluate one thats a big thing and then closing and sealing the deal.

Because they do it for a living & without a bias. Alot of kids like lineman for instance colleges don't really look at the production they have in highschool (that's secondary at certain positions)they look at intangibles & ethics. Alot of recruiting is actually decided in practices believe it or not.
 
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Understood. I'm not saying this as a way to give Richt an excuse or anything else. I don't know if you ever played high level sports (college or beyond)but recruiting isn't a 1 year or in alot of instances even 2 year thing for these big time kids. I was a 2 time 2nd team all American in high school & a 2x all American for baseball. I was recruited even heavier for baseball (8th grade year & beyond) by all the major schools and several MLB squads) football recruiting was light in 9th grade mainly because schools knew who my father is and my godparents. 10th grade & beyond **** was insane. Point is richt is gonna have his first class this year. Kids are gonna start seeing the results good or bad of his program starting next year. Already seeing his system now he just needs some kids he recruited. Trust well be fine. Also I really think it's important people catch up to reality instead of these fantasies when it comes to miami recruiting in our day... other than every blue moon we've never been some recruiting monster. We've taken under appreciated kids that we really liked & that had a chip on their shoulder & coached them up. That's the reality of um football.well get the majority of local kids that we really want but that doesn't mean they are the kids our fan base really wants. People now are simply far too opinionated about topics they previously had no real knowledge of. If butch was the answer for all of yall & u just all of a sudden forgot about all the complaints & shortcomings the fan base had for him then the good news is now yall can go cheer for Lil um aka FIU with butch & Pete Garcia. & it's a better answer for most far as the stadium is concerned. So it's been made easy to switch over.

I just want to point out one thingabout ur post.....the under the radar stuff is long gone. There isntadvantages like that no more. Reed Lewis would not go unoticed in this age u less they never camped. Kids want the exposure and offers and there so many camps that its hard to find a diamond in the rough. These kids want there egos stroked and twitter followers and bytches....we used to be able to identify snag and bag....we cant no more the age of social media hurt us in that area.

Allen hurns,Denzel Perryman, any 3 star kid. You're far off on that regard.any scout down here would tell you that. Ratings come from exposure & hits on certain websites. There's just too much talent to properly judge all of it. Look at Lamar Jackson. He was nowhere near a sure thing coming out. Most big time recruits would tell you camps are overated. Most of them aren't about competition. They are about measurable. I wanna know how a kid competes. Measurable don't tell you what a kid has in his heart. Look at bandy. He's the perfect example,deejay too.

U make alot of points especially about LJ.....my thing is how a school knows about a kid in our area and we dont? I have to see how these guys evaluate one thats a big thing and then closing and sealing the deal.

Because they do it for a living & without a bias. Alot of kids like lineman for instance colleges don't really look at the production they have in highschool (that's secondary at certain positions)they look at intangibles & ethics. Alot of recruiting is actually decided in practices believe it or not.

That is a fantastic point that I think most of us have never considered. Especially those of us that haven't come from your background.

Can you expound on that?
 
I just want to point out one thingabout ur post.....the under the radar stuff is long gone. There isntadvantages like that no more. Reed Lewis would not go unoticed in this age u less they never camped. Kids want the exposure and offers and there so many camps that its hard to find a diamond in the rough. These kids want there egos stroked and twitter followers and bytches....we used to be able to identify snag and bag....we cant no more the age of social media hurt us in that area.

Allen hurns,Denzel Perryman, any 3 star kid. You're far off on that regard.any scout down here would tell you that. Ratings come from exposure & hits on certain websites. There's just too much talent to properly judge all of it. Look at Lamar Jackson. He was nowhere near a sure thing coming out. Most big time recruits would tell you camps are overated. Most of them aren't about competition. They are about measurable. I wanna know how a kid competes. Measurable don't tell you what a kid has in his heart. Look at bandy. He's the perfect example,deejay too.

U make alot of points especially about LJ.....my thing is how a school knows about a kid in our area and we dont? I have to see how these guys evaluate one thats a big thing and then closing and sealing the deal.

Because they do it for a living & without a bias. Alot of kids like lineman for instance colleges don't really look at the production they have in highschool (that's secondary at certain positions)they look at intangibles & ethics. Alot of recruiting is actually decided in practices believe it or not.

That is a fantastic point that I think most of us have never considered. Especially those of us that haven't come from your background.

Can you expound on that?

**** yea i wanna know too
 
Allen hurns,Denzel Perryman, any 3 star kid. You're far off on that regard.any scout down here would tell you that. Ratings come from exposure & hits on certain websites. There's just too much talent to properly judge all of it. Look at Lamar Jackson. He was nowhere near a sure thing coming out. Most big time recruits would tell you camps are overated. Most of them aren't about competition. They are about measurable. I wanna know how a kid competes. Measurable don't tell you what a kid has in his heart. Look at bandy. He's the perfect example,deejay too.

U make alot of points especially about LJ.....my thing is how a school knows about a kid in our area and we dont? I have to see how these guys evaluate one thats a big thing and then closing and sealing the deal.

Because they do it for a living & without a bias. Alot of kids like lineman for instance colleges don't really look at the production they have in highschool (that's secondary at certain positions)they look at intangibles & ethics. Alot of recruiting is actually decided in practices believe it or not.

That is a fantastic point that I think most of us have never considered. Especially those of us that haven't come from your background.

Can you expound on that?

**** yea i wanna know too

I know you weren't asking me, but I'd say that if a kid works hard in practice he'll play hard on Saturday. Some kids are lazy and only want to play the games and be on tv and I imagine that comes out at practice. At some point you're more interested in the kid who will take coaching and work than the one with the right measurable. Obviously the goal is to get the kids who have both, but sometimes you pass on the freak athlete in favor of the good athlete who's going to work for his place on the team, not expect it to be given.
 
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I just want to point out one thingabout ur post.....the under the radar stuff is long gone. There isntadvantages like that no more. Reed Lewis would not go unoticed in this age u less they never camped. Kids want the exposure and offers and there so many camps that its hard to find a diamond in the rough. These kids want there egos stroked and twitter followers and bytches....we used to be able to identify snag and bag....we cant no more the age of social media hurt us in that area.

Allen hurns,Denzel Perryman, any 3 star kid. You're far off on that regard.any scout down here would tell you that. Ratings come from exposure & hits on certain websites. There's just too much talent to properly judge all of it. Look at Lamar Jackson. He was nowhere near a sure thing coming out. Most big time recruits would tell you camps are overated. Most of them aren't about competition. They are about measurable. I wanna know how a kid competes. Measurable don't tell you what a kid has in his heart. Look at bandy. He's the perfect example,deejay too.

U make alot of points especially about LJ.....my thing is how a school knows about a kid in our area and we dont? I have to see how these guys evaluate one thats a big thing and then closing and sealing the deal.

Because they do it for a living & without a bias. Alot of kids like lineman for instance colleges don't really look at the production they have in highschool (that's secondary at certain positions)they look at intangibles & ethics. Alot of recruiting is actually decided in practices believe it or not.

That is a fantastic point that I think most of us have never considered. Especially those of us that haven't come from your background.

Can you expound on that?

Coaches evaluate these guys during practice in the spring when high school starts there spring ball. They want to see how guys interact with the team and how hard guys put in work in practice. Practice is where it starts. Most coaches want guys who approach practice just like games. You dont want a guy who half *** in practice because he feels he will just show up on friday nights and dominate anyway.

I remember when i was in high school and had people from nc state and east carolina come by the school just to talk to me. Just wanting to get to know me and try and see what type person i am.
 
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U make alot of points especially about LJ.....my thing is how a school knows about a kid in our area and we dont? I have to see how these guys evaluate one thats a big thing and then closing and sealing the deal.

Because they do it for a living & without a bias. Alot of kids like lineman for instance colleges don't really look at the production they have in highschool (that's secondary at certain positions)they look at intangibles & ethics. Alot of recruiting is actually decided in practices believe it or not.

That is a fantastic point that I think most of us have never considered. Especially those of us that haven't come from your background.

Can you expound on that?

**** yea i wanna know too

I know you weren't asking me, but I'd say that if a kid works hard in practice he'll play hard on Saturday. Some kids are lazy and only want to play the games and be on tv and I imagine that comes out at practice. At some point you're more interested in the kid who will take coaching and work than the one with the right measurable. Obviously the goal is to get the kids who have both, but sometimes you pass on the freak athlete in favor of the good athlete who's going to work for his place on the team, not expect it to be given.

u know when u say it like that it reminds me of that kid from miami northwestern......if u youtube it its called the year of the bull. he was the ultimate diva.......it was like TO on deer antler it was bad......was it telford?
 
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Because they do it for a living & without a bias. Alot of kids like lineman for instance colleges don't really look at the production they have in highschool (that's secondary at certain positions)they look at intangibles & ethics. Alot of recruiting is actually decided in practices believe it or not.

That is a fantastic point that I think most of us have never considered. Especially those of us that haven't come from your background.

Can you expound on that?

**** yea i wanna know too

I know you weren't asking me, but I'd say that if a kid works hard in practice he'll play hard on Saturday. Some kids are lazy and only want to play the games and be on tv and I imagine that comes out at practice. At some point you're more interested in the kid who will take coaching and work than the one with the right measurable. Obviously the goal is to get the kids who have both, but sometimes you pass on the freak athlete in favor of the good athlete who's going to work for his place on the team, not expect it to be given.

u know when u say it like that it reminds me of that kid from miami northwestern......if u youtube it its called the year of the bull. he was the ultimate diva.......it was like TO on deer antler it was bad......was it telford?

Amazing to see a kid talk **** to a coach. Also amazing to see a coach tackle a kid. S Florida football is a whole other world.
 
u know when u say it like that it reminds me of that kid from miami northwestern......if u youtube it its called the year of the bull. he was the ultimate diva.......it was like TO on deer antler it was bad......was it telford?

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Spit that fire, bruh!

Man, I couldn't agree w/ you more. Plus Imma say this:

I was hella disappointed in Richt this past Saturday. We up 20 w/ like 9 minutes to go, and we up here running the ball, trying to take time off the clock vs. putting a nail in the coffin. This nice guy act gotta go. We should be trying to demoralize opponents, just like Saban did to Miss St. These Mofos was up 37-3 deep into the game and the final score wind up being 51-3. I'm tired of this nice guy act Miami is putting on the field.

And you're right, D....lock down all elite talent. No way in the world elite talent should be leaving home at the rate it is. You think USC is losing out on any top prospect in the back yard? Maybe one or two, but that's about it. We bleeding talent and these other schools are laughing at us.

Yo, if this 17 recruiting class don't shape up and finish top 8, Imma be hella disappointed in Richt. Every new coach at a top tier program gets a 1 year recruiting bump. ****, even Golden and Shannon got a bump....Shannon had like the No. 1 class in his first year, and Golden got the #9 class in his first year. We sitting at 13th right now. Can't win a national title without having at least top 8 classes. And we have been real slow lately. We need S that can hit, run, and catch. Smh.

Golden class was number 9 because he signed like 34 dudes that class. That was not a good class except a few guys.

Thats also true

I think losing juedy losing wright ***an houston wilson cj thats too many guysleaving or am i over reacting

If he pull mcfarland smith harley and the 4 OL prospects and i can dig that class. He has to close strong are last three regimes were playing survive and holdon mode. If he fails to close the outcome wont be any different in four seasons imo

and he gotta keep DJ
 
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