Miami Manifesto - What We Are and Who We Are...

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I hardly post but after watching this season and talking to those in the “know” - most of our fans live in the “what if world” versus reality. What if we got a new coach. What if we got T2 or what if we got TRob! Who cares. One coach, one player, one internal change won’t be a monumental shift in fixing the problem, and maybe we were never that far behind, but maybe the elite got that much better and re-calibrated their map to become that much better in today’s landscape? Watching the games yesterday and this season further reinforced my opinion for what it’s worth, but outside of 6-8 teams we are not playing the same game - and nobody else is - not even Notre Dame. It’s the Power 8 vs everyone else. Those programs are Bama, OSU, Clemson, Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, Texas, TAMU, and maybe Florida. Now you may think I’m crazy to include Texas, TAMU, or Florida but the resources and ingrained institutional cheating of SEC programs coupled with minor changes would fix them pretty quickly including Texas but they are the weakest of all with the most money (and as I write this they fire Herman). While it may seem as the last few years it’s a 4 team race, the others are much closer to being in that conversation than Miami. We can’t compete at that level and everyone else is fighting for scraps. No other teams are built like those, not even ND who looked like everyone else against the best.

Miami will always be a regular Top 25 team but the days of being a perennial Top 5/10 team unfortunately are a distant past and I’m not sure we can get there. This isn’t the 80’s, 90’s and early 2000’s. We aren’t playing in the same arms race. It has nothing to do with Manny, Blake or whatever, it starts with the Board of Trustees, but even then it’s not a guarantee. I’m close with someone who is involved at Wisconsin and they know they can’t compete with OSU, they don’t pay and they’ve accepted they can be a great team, develop talent but 5 stars and high level 4 stars aren’t going there. They can strive for Rose Bowls occasionally,
but playing for Championships it’s not in the cards. Winning at all costs in ingrained in the institutional fabric of those Programs. Nothing more and will settle for nothing less. Saban / Dabo are Yuri Orlov from Lord of War. We are the agent trying to catch up and can never do it.

Here are a few of my big issues besides money to start. Yet - money is a key component all these issues.


  1. Eyes - all those programs are littered with so many eyes on the program they can see and spot deficiencies far faster and attack them far quicker. Having ex coaches as Analysts is a huge “X” factor that cannot be dismissed or ignored. This is not a knock on Manny - he’s not Saban, Dabo, or even Urban Meyer’s hand picked successor. Track record matters. I deal with this in my business. Heck Terry Bowden was a GA at Clemson - whether you like him or not - they guy is smart and knows football. Paying players to come is one thing, but more than that - they have eyes to spot anything and everything and they feast on getting the best and most eyes.
  2. Players / Skill And Trenches - Macho said it best the other day. We just aren’t getting the best Football Players. Our guys just don’t look the same. Our 4.3/4.4 guys look different than Bama’s 4.3/4.4 guys. Our lineman both on the OL and inside DL look different. Finding those hidden gems as Butch did is a thing of the past. Just looking at the SEC guys they dress different, they walk different, they LOOK different. Technology, recruiting sites, camps , 7 on 7 teams, YouTube, etc. make it a lot easier to uncover and find the best and the best frequently go to those top programs. Compounding that - it’s a massive indictment to this program when the average Joe on this site has a better eye than our coaches in seeing players. I wish @DMoney , @Cribby , @Liberty City El @LCane and @Coach Macho @LuCane and there are a few others I’m forgetting but had Analyst roles at Miami.
  3. Coaching - We all agree nothing really needs to be rehashed here - big problem both on staff and accountability / favoritism.
  4. Roster Management - PR, press, whatever - these programs drop guys fast and cut bait when they realize a guy can’t play. Stay at school or transfer. They take full 25 man classes yearly. We welcome back OLs like Hillary and Herbert who couldn’t crack 2nd string. Also we have poor depth because of it. Not to mention Public Universities and in-state tuition make it much easier to have more walk-ins and preferred walk-ons.
 
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So how do we get up to those teams? Clemson is in our division I’m sure we can match the dedication. We would need someone in the program or hire someone that knows how to do that. We all know if Miami is good the fans will come. We would be able to pack that stadium every single game.
 
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I hardly post but after watching this season and talking to those in the “know” - most of our fans live in the “what if world” versus reality. What if we got a new coach. What if we got T2 or what if we got TRob! Who cares. One coach, one player, one internal change won’t be a monumental shift in fixing the problem, and maybe we were never that far behind, but maybe the elite got that much better and re-calibrated their map to become that much better in today’s landscape? Watching the games yesterday and this season further reinforced my opinion for what it’s worth, but outside of 6-8 teams we are not playing the same game - and nobody else is - not even Notre Dame. It’s the Power 8 vs everyone else. Those programs are Bama, OSU, Clemson, Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, Texas, TAMU, and maybe Florida. Now you may think I’m crazy to include Texas, TAMU, or Florida but the resources and ingrained institutional cheating of SEC programs coupled with minor changes would fix them pretty quickly including Texas but they are the weakest of all with the most money (and as I write this they fire Herman). While it may seem as the last few years it’s a 4 team race, the others are much closer to being in that conversation than Miami. We can’t compete at that level and everyone else is fighting for scraps. No other teams are built like those, not even ND who looked like everyone else against the best.

Miami will always be a regular Top 25 team but the days of being a perennial Top 5/10 team unfortunately are a distant past and I’m not sure we can get there. This isn’t the 80’s, 90’s and early 2000’s. We aren’t playing in the same arms race. It has nothing to do with Manny, Blake or whatever, it starts with the Board of Trustees, but even then it’s not a guarantee. I’m close with someone who is involved at Wisconsin and they know they can’t compete with OSU, they don’t pay and they’ve accepted they can be a great team, develop talent but 5 stars and high level 4 stars aren’t going there. They can strive for Rose Bowls occasionally,
but playing for Championships it’s not in the cards. Winning at all costs in ingrained in the institutional fabric of those Programs. Nothing more and will settle for nothing less. Saban / Dabo are Yuri Orlov from Lord of War. We are the agent trying to catch up and can never do it.

Here are a few of my big issues besides money to start. Yet - money is a key component all these issues.


  1. Eyes - all those programs are littered with so many eyes on the program they can see and spot deficiencies far faster and attack them far quicker. Having ex coaches as Analysts is a huge “X” factor that cannot be dismissed or ignored. This is not a knock on Manny - he’s not Saban, Dabo, or even Urban Meyer’s hand picked successor. Track record matters. I deal with this in my business. Heck Terry Bowden was a GA at Clemson - whether you like him or not - they guy is smart and knows football. Paying players to come is one thing, but more than that - they have eyes to spot anything and everything and they feast on getting the best and most eyes.
  2. Players / Skill And Trenches - Macho said it best the other day. We just aren’t getting the best Football Players. Our guys just don’t look the same. Our 4.3/4.4 guys look different than Bama’s 4.3/4.4 guys. Our lineman both on the OL and inside DL look different. Finding those hidden gems as Butch did is a thing of the past. Just looking at the SEC guys they dress different, they walk different, they LOOK different. Technology, recruiting sites, camps , 7 on 7 teams, YouTube, etc. make it a lot easier to uncover and find the best and the best frequently go to those top programs. Compounding that - it’s a massive indictment to this program when the average Joe on this site has a better eye than our coaches in seeing players. I wish @DMoney , @Cribby , @Liberty City El @LCane and @Coach Macho @LuCane and there are a few others I’m forgetting but had Analyst roles at Miami.
  3. Coaching - We all agree nothing really needs to be rehashed here - big problem both on staff and accountability / favoritism.
  4. Roster Management - PR, press, whatever - these programs drop guys fast and cut bait when they realize a guy can’t play. Stay at school or transfer. They take full 25 man classes yearly. We welcome back OLs like Hillary and Herbert who couldn’t crack 2nd string. Also we have poor depth because of it. Not to mention Public Universities and in-state tuition make it much easier to have more walk-ins and preferred walk-ons.
Until Miami brings in a proven no nonsense coach who wont compromise winning for the sake of pampering these soft entitled primadonnas Miami will remain insignificant and mediocre. They’ll be a fun day out to go to a game but leave your expectations of the glory days and the thought of a national title at home.
 
If you want to have a top 5 program, you have to have the hunger to want to be in the top 5. If Wisconsin is throwing in the towel, will
that is their problem, we do not have to follow suit, unless of course we are not hungry enough.
 
Watching NC state getting raped by Kentucky right now is telling me exactly where we are as a program. We are mediocre and we will continue to be slight above average for the foreseeable future because of coaching and investment issues. I believe we have the talent to compete. But don't believe we have the staff and resources to develop the team. There will likely not be another title won here in my lifetime and I have grown to accept. Sad part is that the upper admin BOT ETC, seem to be fine with that. At this point I just want to avoid getting embarrassed by competing and having pride in the program. We had so many chances in games this year that our poor WR play and ****ttty defense destroyed. It's a race we can't win until we have a Saban, Meyer, Dabo type staff. Ain't gonna happen though
 
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First off I wish we were a top 5 team but that's not reality - I'm nostalgic but i'm not living in the 80's anymore. Nothing against Manny - he's not Tier 1 or 2 Coach (I am not on here to bash or say he could be or could not be - but he's not what you can get to move the needle from middle of the pack to Top 5) - a Coach that can drive and influence a program from Top to Bottom and have full support from the Administration. Not even Butch had that. We are talking about a handful of coaches. So when you don't pay, don't have the best of everything, and don't put forth the full commitment of money - you have a Team that is Top 25 but will not be Top 5 - and that is a HUGE difference. People need to get out of their heads what we were and accept what we are. What coach is coming here that can do that? NOBODY so whether it be Manny or the next guy down we don't have a Saban or an Urban or Dabo so get real and accept what we are. Miami is not a destination job anymore - it's a great job - but it's not lets stay here 20 years and erect a statue.

1. Elite Coaches - Very few (Saban, Dabo, Jimbo, etc.). Some might call me crazy but Mack Brown - right outside that in the very top. He transformed a Carolina team from bottom pack and has full administration support and look at them. But he had Cache, won an NC, he's an elder statesman, but he had more track record of success than Richt - and he had FULL support of the powers that be. Harbaugh he's a pro coach - he's not a college guy and the reason I say that is because he already had the success of the NFL and went back to Mich thinking his name would do it and it's far from that. See Lincoln Riley and Ryan Day because they were hand picked successors of ELITE Coaches. There are great coaches like Paul Chryst or Kyle Whittingham but their schools are not (1) able to get the best, (2) resources and willingness to get the best, etc. - so while I think they are top tier - they won't be game changing. Brian Kelly is a great and elite coach but Notre Dame while a destination job because of history - it's too hard to get into, they can't land the SEC type player, and if you have ever been to South Bend it sucks.

2 Miami - We are in an arms race and the truth is we just don't have the ammo to consistently win against better armed, more financed teams. The game of college football is so different today than it was 15 years ago. Not to mention in our own city we don't have everyone fighting for us anymore. Too many handlers, fringe losers who influence kids in the wrong way, and HS coaches that are getting benefits to sending kids to the SEC. It is what it is.

Lastly - don't ask how to get to being the top. Recruit better, develop talent better, hopefully have in a 5 year stretch an ACC champtionship, a playoff birth and win a few new year's day bowls. And then pray Saban retires, Dabo goes to Jacksonville, and the FBI gets involved and puts some of these programs on probation - then maybe we can get to the top faster.
 
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I hardly post but after watching this season and talking to those in the “know” - most of our fans live in the “what if world” versus reality. What if we got a new coach. What if we got T2 or what if we got TRob! Who cares. One coach, one player, one internal change won’t be a monumental shift in fixing the problem, and maybe we were never that far behind, but maybe the elite got that much better and re-calibrated their map to become that much better in today’s landscape? Watching the games yesterday and this season further reinforced my opinion for what it’s worth, but outside of 6-8 teams we are not playing the same game - and nobody else is - not even Notre Dame. It’s the Power 8 vs everyone else. Those programs are Bama, OSU, Clemson, Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, Texas, TAMU, and maybe Florida. Now you may think I’m crazy to include Texas, TAMU, or Florida but the resources and ingrained institutional cheating of SEC programs coupled with minor changes would fix them pretty quickly including Texas but they are the weakest of all with the most money (and as I write this they fire Herman). While it may seem as the last few years it’s a 4 team race, the others are much closer to being in that conversation than Miami. We can’t compete at that level and everyone else is fighting for scraps. No other teams are built like those, not even ND who looked like everyone else against the best.

Miami will always be a regular Top 25 team but the days of being a perennial Top 5/10 team unfortunately are a distant past and I’m not sure we can get there. This isn’t the 80’s, 90’s and early 2000’s. We aren’t playing in the same arms race. It has nothing to do with Manny, Blake or whatever, it starts with the Board of Trustees, but even then it’s not a guarantee. I’m close with someone who is involved at Wisconsin and they know they can’t compete with OSU, they don’t pay and they’ve accepted they can be a great team, develop talent but 5 stars and high level 4 stars aren’t going there. They can strive for Rose Bowls occasionally,
but playing for Championships it’s not in the cards. Winning at all costs in ingrained in the institutional fabric of those Programs. Nothing more and will settle for nothing less. Saban / Dabo are Yuri Orlov from Lord of War. We are the agent trying to catch up and can never do it.

Here are a few of my big issues besides money to start. Yet - money is a key component all these issues.


  1. Eyes - all those programs are littered with so many eyes on the program they can see and spot deficiencies far faster and attack them far quicker. Having ex coaches as Analysts is a huge “X” factor that cannot be dismissed or ignored. This is not a knock on Manny - he’s not Saban, Dabo, or even Urban Meyer’s hand picked successor. Track record matters. I deal with this in my business. Heck Terry Bowden was a GA at Clemson - whether you like him or not - they guy is smart and knows football. Paying players to come is one thing, but more than that - they have eyes to spot anything and everything and they feast on getting the best and most eyes.
  2. Players / Skill And Trenches - Macho said it best the other day. We just aren’t getting the best Football Players. Our guys just don’t look the same. Our 4.3/4.4 guys look different than Bama’s 4.3/4.4 guys. Our lineman both on the OL and inside DL look different. Finding those hidden gems as Butch did is a thing of the past. Just looking at the SEC guys they dress different, they walk different, they LOOK different. Technology, recruiting sites, camps , 7 on 7 teams, YouTube, etc. make it a lot easier to uncover and find the best and the best frequently go to those top programs. Compounding that - it’s a massive indictment to this program when the average Joe on this site has a better eye than our coaches in seeing players. I wish @DMoney , @Cribby , @Liberty City El @LCane and @Coach Macho @LuCane and there are a few others I’m forgetting but had Analyst roles at Miami.
  3. Coaching - We all agree nothing really needs to be rehashed here - big problem both on staff and accountability / favoritism.
  4. Roster Management - PR, press, whatever - these programs drop guys fast and cut bait when they realize a guy can’t play. Stay at school or transfer. They take full 25 man classes yearly. We welcome back OLs like Hillary and Herbert who couldn’t crack 2nd string. Also we have poor depth because of it. Not to mention Public Universities and in-state tuition make it much easier to have more walk-ins and preferred walk-ons.
WOW, spot on & well said!
 
I hardly post but after watching this season and talking to those in the “know” - most of our fans live in the “what if world” versus reality. What if we got a new coach. What if we got T2 or what if we got TRob! Who cares. One coach, one player, one internal change won’t be a monumental shift in fixing the problem, and maybe we were never that far behind, but maybe the elite got that much better and re-calibrated their map to become that much better in today’s landscape? Watching the games yesterday and this season further reinforced my opinion for what it’s worth, but outside of 6-8 teams we are not playing the same game - and nobody else is - not even Notre Dame. It’s the Power 8 vs everyone else. Those programs are Bama, OSU, Clemson, Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, Texas, TAMU, and maybe Florida. Now you may think I’m crazy to include Texas, TAMU, or Florida but the resources and ingrained institutional cheating of SEC programs coupled with minor changes would fix them pretty quickly including Texas but they are the weakest of all with the most money (and as I write this they fire Herman). While it may seem as the last few years it’s a 4 team race, the others are much closer to being in that conversation than Miami. We can’t compete at that level and everyone else is fighting for scraps. No other teams are built like those, not even ND who looked like everyone else against the best.

Miami will always be a regular Top 25 team but the days of being a perennial Top 5/10 team unfortunately are a distant past and I’m not sure we can get there. This isn’t the 80’s, 90’s and early 2000’s. We aren’t playing in the same arms race. It has nothing to do with Manny, Blake or whatever, it starts with the Board of Trustees, but even then it’s not a guarantee. I’m close with someone who is involved at Wisconsin and they know they can’t compete with OSU, they don’t pay and they’ve accepted they can be a great team, develop talent but 5 stars and high level 4 stars aren’t going there. They can strive for Rose Bowls occasionally,
but playing for Championships it’s not in the cards. Winning at all costs in ingrained in the institutional fabric of those Programs. Nothing more and will settle for nothing less. Saban / Dabo are Yuri Orlov from Lord of War. We are the agent trying to catch up and can never do it.

Here are a few of my big issues besides money to start. Yet - money is a key component all these issues.


  1. Eyes - all those programs are littered with so many eyes on the program they can see and spot deficiencies far faster and attack them far quicker. Having ex coaches as Analysts is a huge “X” factor that cannot be dismissed or ignored. This is not a knock on Manny - he’s not Saban, Dabo, or even Urban Meyer’s hand picked successor. Track record matters. I deal with this in my business. Heck Terry Bowden was a GA at Clemson - whether you like him or not - they guy is smart and knows football. Paying players to come is one thing, but more than that - they have eyes to spot anything and everything and they feast on getting the best and most eyes.
  2. Players / Skill And Trenches - Macho said it best the other day. We just aren’t getting the best Football Players. Our guys just don’t look the same. Our 4.3/4.4 guys look different than Bama’s 4.3/4.4 guys. Our lineman both on the OL and inside DL look different. Finding those hidden gems as Butch did is a thing of the past. Just looking at the SEC guys they dress different, they walk different, they LOOK different. Technology, recruiting sites, camps , 7 on 7 teams, YouTube, etc. make it a lot easier to uncover and find the best and the best frequently go to those top programs. Compounding that - it’s a massive indictment to this program when the average Joe on this site has a better eye than our coaches in seeing players. I wish @DMoney , @Cribby , @Liberty City El @LCane and @Coach Macho @LuCane and there are a few others I’m forgetting but had Analyst roles at Miami.
  3. Coaching - We all agree nothing really needs to be rehashed here - big problem both on staff and accountability / favoritism.
  4. Roster Management - PR, press, whatever - these programs drop guys fast and cut bait when they realize a guy can’t play. Stay at school or transfer. They take full 25 man classes yearly. We welcome back OLs like Hillary and Herbert who couldn’t crack 2nd string. Also we have poor depth because of it. Not to mention Public Universities and in-state tuition make it much easier to have more walk-ins and preferred walk-ons.

In America — Money = God.

if you don’t have it — God won’t be on your side.

God loves the SEC, ND, and OSU.

The rest of us can go to ****!
 
You forgot the most important thing, OP.

The top schools mentioned have committed boosters and fanbases willing to kick in the millions/billions required to pay players, pay for football infrastructure, and pay for elite coaches and for coaching buyouts when things don’t work out. Because boosters is where the money comes from. For those of you that don’t understand how it works.

We have Carol Soffer and thousands of social media heroes that buy a t-shirt every five years, and complain about $25 parking.

The sports administration, Flake, and Manny deserve all the criticism they get, but unless we have the financial booster commitment our reach will always exceed our grasp.

The booster money is the commitment we are missing.

Give me a billion dollars and I’ll fix this program. At least I will increase the commitment. You can’t guarantee results, because look at Texas and Michigan
 
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I hardly post but after watching this season and talking to those in the “know” - most of our fans live in the “what if world” versus reality. What if we got a new coach. What if we got T2 or what if we got TRob! Who cares. One coach, one player, one internal change won’t be a monumental shift in fixing the problem, and maybe we were never that far behind, but maybe the elite got that much better and re-calibrated their map to become that much better in today’s landscape? Watching the games yesterday and this season further reinforced my opinion for what it’s worth, but outside of 6-8 teams we are not playing the same game - and nobody else is - not even Notre Dame. It’s the Power 8 vs everyone else. Those programs are Bama, OSU, Clemson, Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, Texas, TAMU, and maybe Florida. Now you may think I’m crazy to include Texas, TAMU, or Florida but the resources and ingrained institutional cheating of SEC programs coupled with minor changes would fix them pretty quickly including Texas but they are the weakest of all with the most money (and as I write this they fire Herman). While it may seem as the last few years it’s a 4 team race, the others are much closer to being in that conversation than Miami. We can’t compete at that level and everyone else is fighting for scraps. No other teams are built like those, not even ND who looked like everyone else against the best.

Miami will always be a regular Top 25 team but the days of being a perennial Top 5/10 team unfortunately are a distant past and I’m not sure we can get there. This isn’t the 80’s, 90’s and early 2000’s. We aren’t playing in the same arms race. It has nothing to do with Manny, Blake or whatever, it starts with the Board of Trustees, but even then it’s not a guarantee. I’m close with someone who is involved at Wisconsin and they know they can’t compete with OSU, they don’t pay and they’ve accepted they can be a great team, develop talent but 5 stars and high level 4 stars aren’t going there. They can strive for Rose Bowls occasionally,
but playing for Championships it’s not in the cards. Winning at all costs in ingrained in the institutional fabric of those Programs. Nothing more and will settle for nothing less. Saban / Dabo are Yuri Orlov from Lord of War. We are the agent trying to catch up and can never do it.

Here are a few of my big issues besides money to start. Yet - money is a key component all these issues.


  1. Eyes - all those programs are littered with so many eyes on the program they can see and spot deficiencies far faster and attack them far quicker. Having ex coaches as Analysts is a huge “X” factor that cannot be dismissed or ignored. This is not a knock on Manny - he’s not Saban, Dabo, or even Urban Meyer’s hand picked successor. Track record matters. I deal with this in my business. Heck Terry Bowden was a GA at Clemson - whether you like him or not - they guy is smart and knows football. Paying players to come is one thing, but more than that - they have eyes to spot anything and everything and they feast on getting the best and most eyes.
  2. Players / Skill And Trenches - Macho said it best the other day. We just aren’t getting the best Football Players. Our guys just don’t look the same. Our 4.3/4.4 guys look different than Bama’s 4.3/4.4 guys. Our lineman both on the OL and inside DL look different. Finding those hidden gems as Butch did is a thing of the past. Just looking at the SEC guys they dress different, they walk different, they LOOK different. Technology, recruiting sites, camps , 7 on 7 teams, YouTube, etc. make it a lot easier to uncover and find the best and the best frequently go to those top programs. Compounding that - it’s a massive indictment to this program when the average Joe on this site has a better eye than our coaches in seeing players. I wish @DMoney , @Cribby , @Liberty City El @LCane and @Coach Macho @LuCane and there are a few others I’m forgetting but had Analyst roles at Miami.
  3. Coaching - We all agree nothing really needs to be rehashed here - big problem both on staff and accountability / favoritism.
  4. Roster Management - PR, press, whatever - these programs drop guys fast and cut bait when they realize a guy can’t play. Stay at school or transfer. They take full 25 man classes yearly. We welcome back OLs like Hillary and Herbert who couldn’t crack 2nd string. Also we have poor depth because of it. Not to mention Public Universities and in-state tuition make it much easier to have more walk-ins and preferred walk-ons.

Perfectly said. You’re right on the money...well, except the part about hiring CIS posters to be analysts.

But your larger point is dead on.
 
If you want to have a top 5 program, you have to have the hunger to want to be in the top 5. If Wisconsin is throwing in the towel, will
that is their problem, we do not have to follow suit, unless of course we are not hungry enough.

Crap like this has been repeated way to much on this board.

How silly. You think a majority of power-5 programs aren't in the top 10 because they aren't hungry enough?

That's hilarious, considering that this thread sits right next to one on power 5 programs owing over $100 million in buyouts to fired head coaches.

I suppose the only reason we all don't have yachts with helicopters is that we aren't 'hungry' enough.
 
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First off I wish we were a top 5 team but that's not reality - I'm nostalgic but i'm not living in the 80's anymore. Nothing against Manny - he's not Tier 1 or 2 Coach (I am not on here to bash or say he could be or could not be - but he's not what you can get to move the needle from middle of the pack to Top 5) - a Coach that can drive and influence a program from Top to Bottom and have full support from the Administration. Not even Butch had that. We are talking about a handful of coaches. So when you don't pay, don't have the best of everything, and don't put forth the full commitment of money - you have a Team that is Top 25 but will not be Top 5 - and that is a HUGE difference. People need to get out of their heads what we were and accept what we are. What coach is coming here that can do that? NOBODY so whether it be Manny or the next guy down we don't have a Saban or an Urban or Dabo so get real and accept what we are. Miami is not a destination job anymore - it's a great job - but it's not lets stay here 20 years and erect a statue.

1. Elite Coaches - Very few (Saban, Dabo, Jimbo, etc.). Some might call me crazy but Mack Brown - right outside that in the very top. He transformed a Carolina team from bottom pack and has full administration support and look at them. But he had Cache, won an NC, he's an elder statesman, but he had more track record of success than Richt - and he had FULL support of the powers that be. Harbaugh he's a pro coach - he's not a college guy and the reason I say that is because he already had the success of the NFL and went back to Mich thinking his name would do it and it's far from that. See Lincoln Riley and Ryan Day because they were hand picked successors of ELITE Coaches. There are great coaches like Paul Chryst or Kyle Whittingham but their schools are not (1) able to get the best, (2) resources and willingness to get the best, etc. - so while I think they are top tier - they won't be game changing. Brian Kelly is a great and elite coach but Notre Dame while a destination job because of history - it's too hard to get into, they can't land the SEC type player, and if you have ever been to South Bend it sucks.

2 Miami - We are in an arms race and the truth is we just don't have the ammo to consistently win against better armed, more financed teams. The game of college football is so different today than it was 15 years ago. Not to mention in our own city we don't have everyone fighting for us anymore. Too many handlers, fringe losers who influence kids in the wrong way, and HS coaches that are getting benefits to sending kids to the SEC. It is what it is.

Lastly - don't ask how to get to being the top. Recruit better, develop talent better, hopefully have in a 5 year stretch an ACC champtionship, a playoff birth and win a few new year's day bowls. And then pray Saban retires, Dabo goes to Jacksonville, and the FBI gets involved and puts some of these programs on probation - then maybe we can get to the top faster.
There are only two elite coaches right now, Saban and Dabo. The other elite was Urban Myer, Jimbo and Brian Kelly are not elite. They are Tier 1 along with Mack Brown who's recruiting skills are legendary and is why I put him up there. Ask me in 2 or 3 years about Ryan Day, not yet and Lincoln Riley is lower end of Tier 1 along with Kirby Smart who's rank is dropping. Manny is what he is, kind of a band aid to stop the bleeding, he can recruit okay, but not at an elite level and his teams are poorly coached. We can get better with internal changes such as Lashlee, but it's a quick fix. The solution is to hire an Elite or Tier 1 coach and that will never happen. We need an Urban Myer or Jimbo and quality OC and DC to turn things around and it's just not going to happen. **** Manny won't even fire Rumph or Baker, so what does that tell you. Mark Richt is the closest we'll get and he already had one foot out the door and ready to retire. This program does't put emphasis on being the best anymore. Truth be told, thank god we play in the ACC, so we can beat up on Duke and squeak by the average to weak teams in our conference.
 
Watching NC state getting raped by Kentucky right now is telling me exactly where we are as a program. We are mediocre and we will continue to be slight above average for the foreseeable future because of coaching and investment issues. I believe we have the talent to compete. But don't believe we have the staff and resources to develop the team. There will likely not be another title won here in my lifetime and I have grown to accept. Sad part is that the upper admin BOT ETC, seem to be fine with that. At this point I just want to avoid getting embarrassed by competing and having pride in the program. We had so many chances in games this year that our poor WR play and ****ttty defense destroyed. It's a race we can't win until we have a Saban, Meyer, Dabo type staff. Ain't gonna happen though

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