GojiraCane
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Numbers now updated to include the addition of Issiah Walker.
The 2010 class had 7 blue chip players. The 2011 class had just 4. So 11 total in two years heading into the 2012 season (and of those 5 were gone within 2 seasons).2012 we had 21 bluechip recruits
Horrific
I DON’T WANNA HEAR NO ONE ON HERE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE HAVE NO TALENT!!!! Time and time again idiots keep coming on here saying that BS and time and time again they are proven wrong!
I'm including the 2020 commitments as well as returning players. As well as Clay James, Marshall Few, and Michael Parrott, who are now under scholarship.We actually have 82 guys on scholarship. 74 on the current roster, plus 7 guys who haven’t enrolled, plus Walker. Remember Manny put 5 guys on scholarship in March. I didn’t count Moise because I assume he won’t be here in the fall.
Whatever floats your boat ***I'm including the 2020 commitments as well as returning players. As well as Clay James, Marshall Few, and Michael Parrott, who are now under scholarship.
Bro; I think back in 2014 or 15, I composed the talent we had accumulated v. the entire ACC Coastal, and then I threw in schools like Iowa, ISU, KSt, Wisconsin, Baylor, TCU, Oregon, OKSt.
Listen man; our problem has not been talent. I’ve said it once, and I’ll say it again: our problem has been culture, and that culture starts from the top. Look at our last two Presidents, look at our last two ADs, look at our current assistant to the AD, look at our BOT, look at our coaches. (In fairness to Richt, he took the job b/c he was given a once in a life time opportunity to relive his OC past, and more importantly, work w his son. He was a standup guy for walking away knowing his time had come & gone).
We’ve had plenty of talent, talent that any capable coach would use and dominate the Coastal. Ppl truly underestimate the value of coaching & leadership.
I think our highest draft pick the last two years was in the 4th round. We have talent on defense and TE/RB. The problem is we didn't have talent on the Oline or at QB, so we couldn't get the most out of our talent at WR,RB and TEI DON’T WANNA HEAR NO ONE ON HERE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE HAVE NO TALENT!!!! Time and time again idiots keep coming on here saying that BS and time and time again they are proven wrong!
Yep, we may get some Top 15 or so classes but when it is said and done they leave here as marginal NFL players at best lately.I think our highest draft pick the last two years was in the 4th round. We have talent on defense and TE/RB. The problem is we didn't have talent on the Oline or at QB, so we couldn't get the most out of our talent at WR,RB and TE
You lost me. What did the school President and AD not do? The President hires the AD and the AD hires the head coach. Are we blaming this on facilities and/or the coaching hires. Those are the only things the President and AD affect.Bro; I think back in 2014 or 15, I composed the talent we had accumulated v. the entire ACC Coastal, and then I threw in schools like Iowa, ISU, KSt, Wisconsin, Baylor, TCU, Oregon, OKSt.
Listen man; our problem has not been talent. I’ve said it once, and I’ll say it again: our problem has been culture, and that culture starts from the top. Look at our last two Presidents, look at our last two ADs, look at our current assistant to the AD, look at our BOT, look at our coaches. (In fairness to Richt, he took the job b/c he was given a once in a life time opportunity to relive his OC past, and more importantly, work w his son. He was a standup guy for walking away knowing his time had come & gone).
We’ve had plenty of talent, talent that any capable coach would use and dominate the Coastal. Ppl truly underestimate the value of coaching & leadership.
I DON’T WANNA HEAR NO ONE ON HERE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE HAVE NO TALENT!!!! Time and time again idiots keep coming on here saying that BS and time and time again they are proven wrong!
Yes. 2012 was Al Golden first real recruiting class, and like any new coach that first class tends to be strong. And while Golden did well under the circumstances (9 blue chippers), he needed a Top 5 sort of class. The NCAA investigation, still fresh kept Golden from achieving that. And when "the cloud" finally lifted, recruits had three years worth of Golden results to judge. And so we had okay classes, but not the sort of numbers needed to get back up into the 30s.You lost me. What did the school President and AD not do? The President hires the AD and the AD hires the head coach. Are we blaming this on facilities and/or the coaching hires. Those are the only things the President and AD affect.
Let's not forget that from 2011 - 2015 the program was under a cloud with Nevin Shapiro. The NCAA wound up taking some scholarships and the program was on probation. That killed recruiting. That's a big reason why our blue chips dropped.
That's a good question and I'm not sure of it. I've wondered if there has been some "grade inflation" taking place over the years, or if 247 has been relatively consistent.Do they handout more 4 or 5 stars year to year? Just wondering.