Miami Hurricanes Roster Composition - Updated to 5/10/2020

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You lost me. What did the school President and AD not do? The President hires the AD and the AD hires the head coach. Are we blaming this on facilities and/or the coaching hires. Those are the only things the President and AD affect.

Let's not forget that from 2011 - 2015 the program was under a cloud with Nevin Shapiro. The NCAA wound up taking some scholarships and the program was on probation. That killed recruiting. That's a big reason why our blue chips dropped.

Awwww, yes; the infamous cloud that was coined and propaganda’d by Al Golden to justify his ineptitude. He was a terrible choice as a hire, both culturally and schematically. “The Cloud” was from actually from 2011 - 2012; but ironically, Golden’s best class to date happened to be during this “cloud” as the 2012 class was ranked 10th in the nation, and the class after the residual effects of “the cloud” (class of ‘13), was his 2nd highest rated class during that period (#14 per 247). Go figure!

So your statement as to the responsibilities of the President & AD is exactly what I referred to as our problem. Shalala de-emphasized football, and put her efforts towards U-Health (but to her credit, academic rankings did rise), and current slap-**** Frenk doesn’t even know what a football is, and wants nothing to do w/ anything about it (and academics have steadily declined on his watch).

Kirby Hocutt, under Shalala, focused $26m towards the baseball team, tennis, and women’s soccer. During the Shapiro scandal, he bounced. Eichorst was responsible for extending Golden prematurely, b/c he “stuck with us during this cloud”, and then bounced immediately. Blake James had no previous AD experience, was an in-house hire from a losing culture established by his predecessors, known as a ticket and fundraiser, YET was hired to oversee a fledgling program. (Again, NEVER hire from a failed regime).
His lazy hire of Dimare for baseball, along w not having the balls to fire Golden after the chit stunt he pulled when he disappeared from the team to try to get into PSU, thus keeping him around a year longer, losing us on certain endorsements.....man, I don’t need to go down the bevy of errors under his watch. These in-house hires starting from AD Paul Dee, going down to Hocutt, Eichorst, and James have caused Miami Athletics, in its entirety, to disintegrate.
 
You lost me. What did the school President and AD not do? The President hires the AD and the AD hires the head coach. Are we blaming this on facilities and/or the coaching hires. Those are the only things the President and AD affect.

Let's not forget that from 2011 - 2015 the program was under a cloud with Nevin Shapiro. The NCAA wound up taking some scholarships and the program was on probation. That killed recruiting. That's a big reason why our blue chips dropped.

If I hear about the cloud one more time.....
 
Awwww, yes; the infamous cloud that was coined and propaganda’d by Al Golden to justify his ineptitude. He was a terrible choice as a hire, both culturally and schematically. “The Cloud” was from actually from 2011 - 2012; but ironically, Golden’s best class to date happened to be during this “cloud” as the 2012 class was ranked 10th in the nation, and the class after the residual effects of “the cloud” (class of ‘13), was his 2nd highest rated class during that period (#14 per 247). Go figure!

So your statement as to the responsibilities of the President & AD is exactly what I referred to as our problem. Shalala de-emphasized football, and put her efforts towards U-Health (but to her credit, academic rankings did rise), and current slap-**** Frenk doesn’t even know what a football is, and wants nothing to do w/ anything about it (and academics have steadily declined on his watch).

Kirby Hocutt, under Shalala, focused $26m towards the baseball team, tennis, and women’s soccer. During the Shapiro scandal, he bounced. Eichorst was responsible for extending Golden prematurely, b/c he “stuck with us during this cloud”, and then bounced immediately. Blake James had no previous AD experience, was an in-house hire from a losing culture established by his predecessors, known as a ticket and fundraiser, YET was hired to oversee a fledgling program. (Again, NEVER hire from a failed regime).
His lazy hire of Dimare for baseball, along w not having the balls to fire Golden after the chit stunt he pulled when he disappeared from the team to try to get into PSU, thus keeping him around a year longer, losing us on certain endorsements.....man, I don’t need to go down the bevy of errors under his watch. These in-house hires starting from AD Paul Dee, going down to Hocutt, Eichorst, and James have caused Miami Athletics, in its entirety, to disintegrate.
Football’s demise at the U was profoundly affected by Shalala’s priorities and will continue in Miami. The hires at the U reflect the city’s international focus and priorities... and good ole football is taking a back seat. I hope I’m wrong but the Miami of old may be a thing of the past.
 
Football’s demise at the U was profoundly affected by Shalala’s priorities and will continue in Miami. The hires at the U reflect the city’s international focus and priorities... and good ole football is taking a back seat. I hope I’m wrong but the Miami of old may be a thing of the past.

Bro, I’ve fought against this same thought and feeling. If we keep hiring the likes of Frenk’s & James’ of the world, then yeah, we’ll be mired in mediocrity forever b/c they neither have the football acumen or leadership abilities to hire the right athletic personnel.
 
Bro, I’ve fought against this same thought and feeling. If we keep hiring the likes of Frenk’s & James’ of the world, then yeah, we’ll be mired in mediocrity forever b/c they neither have the football acumen or leadership abilities to hire the right athletic personnel.
Yes they lack football acumen, and they don’t give a shiit about furthering the football program with the right hires and funding. Relly, I remember arguments against building a home stadium closer to campus because it’s illogical because we wouldn’t be able to get 30K attendance. I bring that up only to point out one thing... this city ain’t Alabama or Clemson or OSU and I can go on and on.
We (Miami) ain’t a major football city anymore.
 
Yes they lack football acumen, and they don’t give a shiit about furthering the football program with the right hires and funding. Relly, I remember arguments against building a home stadium closer to campus because it’s illogical because we wouldn’t be able to get 30K attendance. I bring that up only to point out one thing... this city ain’t Alabama or Clemson or OSU and I can go on and on.
We (Miami) ain’t a major football city anymore.

Exactly my g. Like we for us to have the type of pedigree that we have, we think so small, have been conditioned to think small, and in turn our fan base is so callous to the on-goings. Like our greatest joy now is watching who enters and comes out the portal my g. Lol. We got juiced over an IPF, while teams w/ IPF are adding more money to the over football complex.
Man, I get so depressed thinking about where we are. My hope is that USC went through this and when they hired the right coach, everything changed immediately.
 
Awwww, yes; the infamous cloud that was coined and propaganda’d by Al Golden to justify his ineptitude. He was a terrible choice as a hire, both culturally and schematically. “The Cloud” was from actually from 2011 - 2012; but ironically, Golden’s best class to date happened to be during this “cloud” as the 2012 class was ranked 10th in the nation, and the class after the residual effects of “the cloud” (class of ‘13), was his 2nd highest rated class during that period (#14 per 247). Go figure!

So your statement as to the responsibilities of the President & AD is exactly what I referred to as our problem. Shalala de-emphasized football, and put her efforts towards U-Health (but to her credit, academic rankings did rise), and current slap-**** Frenk doesn’t even know what a football is, and wants nothing to do w/ anything about it (and academics have steadily declined on his watch).

Kirby Hocutt, under Shalala, focused $26m towards the baseball team, tennis, and women’s soccer. During the Shapiro scandal, he bounced. Eichorst was responsible for extending Golden prematurely, b/c he “stuck with us during this cloud”, and then bounced immediately. Blake James had no previous AD experience, was an in-house hire from a losing culture established by his predecessors, known as a ticket and fundraiser, YET was hired to oversee a fledgling program. (Again, NEVER hire from a failed regime).
His lazy hire of Dimare for baseball, along w not having the balls to fire Golden after the chit stunt he pulled when he disappeared from the team to try to get into PSU, thus keeping him around a year longer, losing us on certain endorsements.....man, I don’t need to go down the bevy of errors under his watch. These in-house hires starting from AD Paul Dee, going down to Hocutt, Eichorst, and James have caused Miami Athletics, in its entirety, to disintegrate.
I get that the James hire wasn't the best. Other than the coaching choices he's made, what are the teams not getting that would make any difference in their sport? Football got the IPF, baseball getting indoor cages. The school built new dorms. What would another AD bring that we don't have now? .

I respect your opinion, but as a former D-1 baseball player, I think Dimare was a good choice and don't consider it a lazy hire. I also think DiMare put in the time and deserved the opportunity. Looking at his recruiting classes it's hard to criticize the job he's done in a short period of time. We had a legit national title contending team before the Covid-19 outbreak and he's put together the #2 recruiting class in the nation for 2020. I just hope those guys stay another year and bring home a title.

I'm not trying to argue against what you're saying. I'm just trying to understand what the program is missing.
 
Sitting at 78 is an overblown nbr. The current team has about 70 guys that can play, contribute at the level needed to win at best. Being short of 85 and having 10-12% dead weight is brutal. This is all on James and Diaz...

*Edited to add Clay James, bringing the total from 81 to 82.

I'd like to know what your definition of "dead weight" is.

We're at 82* scholarships currently.

8 are former walk-ons
41 Michael Parrott R-Jr.
27 Marshall Few R-Jr.
34 Elias Lugo-***undo R-Jr.
71 Jared Griffith R-So.
46 Suleman Burrows R-So.
68 Michael Scibelli R-So.
45 Camden Price R-So.
*58 Clay James R-So.

Parrott and Price *(and James) have contributed, but let's call the other 5 "dead weight".

Now let's look at the rest of the roster and see if we can identify any more "dead weight"

QB 5
1 D'Eriq King R-Sr.
5 N'Kosi Perry R-Jr.
18 Tate Martell R-Jr.
17 Peyton Matocha R-Fr.
19 Tyler Van Dyke Fr.

It's a given that if you recruit a QB every year, then you're gonna have a couple of guys who either don't play and/or transfer. There isn't a program in the country that doesn't have at least one guy in the QB room that fits in the "dead weight" category if never or seldom playing a snap is the defining characteristic. It's safe to say that with 5 scholarship QBs we have least one (let's say Martell) that's dead weight. Matocha is a R-Fr. There's really no predicting what he'll end up being once Lashlee has had a couple of years to coach him up, so it's premature to put him in the "dead weight" category.

Verdict: dead weight +1

RB 4
22 Robert Burns R-Jr.
23 Cam'Ron Harris Jr.
2 Donald Chaney, Jr. Fr.
4 Jaylan Knighton Fr.
FB 1
41 Michael Parrott R-Jr.

Some might say Burns, because he's already earned his degree and hasn't contributed much in his career, but he's been behind three NFL RBs and last season he was 3rd string. A 3rd string RB can hardly be considered "dead weight".

Verdict: 0 dead weight

WR 10
3 Mike Harley Sr.
27 Marshall Few R-Jr.
34 Elias Lugo-***undo R-Jr.
6 Mark Pope Jr.
8 Dee Wiggins Jr.
12 Jeremiah Payton R-Fr.
80 Xavier Restrepo Fr.
83 Michael Redding III Fr.
84 Dazalin Worsham Fr.
88 Keyshawn Smith Fr.

Harley and Wiggins have both contributed plenty. Pope's contribution has been minimal, and it remains to be seen if he can hold off the five freshman nipping at his heels...but there's a good chance he plays alot in 2020. We'll see. As for the freshmen, odds are at least one will struggle to adapt to the college game. That's just natural, but at this point none can be considered "dead weight".

Verdict: 0 dead weight excluding walk-ons since they've already been accounted for.

TE 4
9 Brevin Jordan Jr.
85 Will Mallory Jr.
81 Larry Hodges R-Fr.
86 Dominic Mammarelli Fr.

Verdict: 0 dead weight here since Polendy and Irvin have moved on.

OL 15
55 Navaughn Donaldson Sr.
65 Corey Gaynor R-Jr.
57 Kai-Leon Herbert R-Jr.
75 Zalon'tae Hillery R-Jr.
51 DJ Scaife, Jr. Jr.
66 Ousman Traore R-So.
52 Cleveland Reed, Jr. R-So.
74 John Campbell, Jr. R-So.
71 Jared Griffith R-So.
53 Jakai Clark So.
60 Zion Nelson So.
77 Adam ElGammal R-Fr.
64 Jalen Rivers Fr.
72 Chris Washington Fr.
54 Issiah Walker Fr.

Offensive line is the toughest spot to project how a kid is going to adjust to the college game. There's no way to avoid "dead weight" on the OL. Can you minimize it with excellent evaluations? Sure, but we haven't had that. I'd say Hillary is probably the one guy you can definitely pencil into the "dead weight" category and in my mind it's questionable whether Zion will/should ever see the field again. Herbert and Reed might find themselves in the "dead weight" category if they're unable to solidify a position in the top 7-8 best linemen. Then there's McDonaldson. We'll see. Again, with the OL being such a developmental position there's gonna be a lot of uncertainty.

Verdict: possibly +5 dead weight

CB 7
7 Al Blades, Jr. Jr.
8 DJ Ivey Jr.
46 Suleman Burrows R-So.
23 Te'Cory Couch So.
24 Christian Williams So.
Isaiah Dunson Fr.
Marcus Clarke Fr.

I really doubt there's a single CB in this group who won't contribute in some way. We're just too thin at the position.

Verdict: 0 dead weight

S 7
5 Amari Carter Sr.
21 Bubba Bolden R-Jr.
26 Gurvan Hall, Jr. Jr.
25 Keshawn Washington Fr.
Avantae Williams Fr.
Jalen Harrell Fr.
Brian Balom Fr.
STRK 2
3 Gilbert Frierson R-So.
4 Keontra Smith So.

In reality we have three safety positions...boundary, field and striker. We have 5 guys who have been at Miami more than 15 minutes to man 3 positions, not including true freshman. Washington and Williams are almost guaranteed to see the field.

Verdict: 0 dead weight

LB 8
53 Zach McCloud R-Sr.
44 Bradley Jennings Jr. R-Jr.
17 Waynmon Steed R-Jr.
52 Patrick Joyner, Jr. R-So.
6 Sam Brooks, Jr. So.
9 Avery Huff R-Fr.
11 Corey Flagg, Jr. Fr.
18 Tirek Austin-Cave Fr.

The health and readiness of Jennings, Joyner and Steed will have a huge impact on the LB corps in 2020. I have high hopes for Joyner and Steed if healthy. Jennings, not so much. There's a whole lot of uncertainty at LB. We better hope that one or two out of those three can contribute this season because the freshmen are more than likely not going to be ready to play right away.

Verdict: pending

DL 15
2 Quincy Roche R-Sr.
96 Jonathan Ford Sr.
95 Jaelan Phillips R-Jr.
1 Nesta Jade Silvera Jr.
91 Jordan Miller R-So.
15 Gregory Rousseau R-So.
68 Michael Scibelli R-So.
12 Jahfari Harvey R-Fr.
22 Cameron Williams R-Fr.
81 Jared Harrison-Hunte R-Fr.
98 Jalar Holley R-Fr.
92 Jason Blissett, Jr. R-Fr.
33 Chantz Williams Fr.
Elijah Roberts Fr.
Quentin Williams Fr.

It's gonna be very interesting to see what the 2deep is gonna look like in the fall. With as much raw talent we have on the DL there really is no telling who's gonna flash.

Verdict: an excess of talent

K 2
30 Jose Borregales R-Sr.
45 Camden Price R-So.
P 1
94 Lou Hedley R-Jr.
LS
58 Clay James R-So.

Obviously no dead weight here.

Final verdict: 11 out of 82* scholarships possibly "dead weight". That's *13.4% if you count the walk-ons...most of which were only given scholarships because we had them to give. If you take out the walk-on (obviously not Parrott and Price because they are essential) then the vast majority of the dead weight on the roster (+80%) is on the OL. I would say that's an indictment on the last two offensive coaching staffs, mostly of not all pre-Diaz era.

Conclusion: @561Cane blames Manny Diaz for a "dead weight" "problem" which is 99.99% not Manny Diaz's fault...because he's too lazy to actually look underneath the surface and/or it's the simple/unimaginative thing to do.
 
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I'd like to know what your definition of "dead weight" is.

We're at 81 scholarships currently.

7 are former walk-ons
41 Michael Parrott R-Jr.
27 Marshall Few R-Jr.
34 Elias Lugo-***undo R-Jr.
71 Jared Griffith R-So.
46 Suleman Burrows R-So.
68 Michael Scibelli R-So.
45 Camden Price R-So.

Parrott and Price have contributed, but let's call the other 5 "dead weight".

That's 6%.

Now let's look at the rest of the roster and see if we can identify any more "dead weight"

QB 5
1 D'Eriq King R-Sr.
5 N'Kosi Perry R-Jr.
18 Tate Martell R-Jr.
17 Peyton Matocha R-Fr.
19 Tyler Van Dyke Fr.

It's a given that if you recruit a QB every year, then you're gonna have a couple of guys who either don't play and/or transfer. There isn't a program in the country that doesn't have at least one guy in the QB room that fits in the "dead weight" category if never or seldom playing a snap is the defining characteristic. It's safe to say that with 5 scholarship QBs we have least one (let's say Martell) that's dead weight. Matocha is a R-Fr. There's really no predicting what he'll end up being once Lashlee has had a couple of years to coach him up, so it's premature to put him in the "dead weight" category.

Verdict: dead weight +1

RB 4
22 Robert Burns R-Jr.
23 Cam'Ron Harris Jr.
2 Donald Chaney, Jr. Fr.
4 Jaylan Knighton Fr.
FB 1
41 Michael Parrott R-Jr.

Some might say Burns, because he's already earned his degree and hasn't contributed much in his career, but he's been behind three NFL RBs and last season he was 3rd string. A 3rd string RB can hardly be considered "dead weight".

Verdict: 0 dead weight

WR 10
3 Mike Harley Sr.
27 Marshall Few R-Jr.
34 Elias Lugo-***undo R-Jr.
6 Mark Pope Jr.
8 Dee Wiggins Jr.
12 Jeremiah Payton R-Fr.
80 Xavier Restrepo Fr.
83 Michael Redding III Fr.
84 Dazalin Worsham Fr.
88 Keyshawn Smith Fr.

Harley and Wiggins have both contributed plenty. Pope's contribution has been minimal, and it remains to be seen if he can hold off the five freshman nipping at his heels...but there's a good chance he plays alot in 2020. We'll see. As for the freshmen, odds are at least one will struggle to adapt to the college game. That's just natural, but at this point none can be considered "dead weight".

Verdict: 0 dead weight excluding walk-ons since they've already been accounted for.

TE 4
9 Brevin Jordan Jr.
85 Will Mallory Jr.
81 Larry Hodges R-Fr.
86 Dominic Mammarelli Fr.

Verdict: 0 dead weight here since Polendy and Irvin have moved on.

OL 15
55 Navaughn Donaldson Sr.
65 Corey Gaynor R-Jr.
57 Kai-Leon Herbert R-Jr.
75 Zalon'tae Hillery R-Jr.
51 DJ Scaife, Jr. Jr.
66 Ousman Traore R-So.
52 Cleveland Reed, Jr. R-So.
74 John Campbell, Jr. R-So.
71 Jared Griffith R-So.
53 Jakai Clark So.
60 Zion Nelson So.
77 Adam ElGammal R-Fr.
64 Jalen Rivers Fr.
72 Chris Washington Fr.
54 Issiah Walker Fr.

Offensive line is the toughest spot to project how a kid is going to adjust to the college game. There's no way to avoid "dead weight" on the OL. Can you minimize it with excellent evaluations? Sure, but we haven't had that. I'd say Hillary is probably the one guy you can definitely pencil into the "dead weight" category and in my mind it's questionable whether Zion will/should ever see the field again. Herbert and Reed might find themselves in the "dead weight" category if they're unable to solidify a position in the top 7-8 best linemen. Then there's McDonaldson. We'll see. Again, with the OL being such a developmental position there's gonna be a lot of uncertainty.

Verdict: possibly +5 dead weight

CB 7
7 Al Blades, Jr. Jr.
8 DJ Ivey Jr.
46 Suleman Burrows R-So.
23 Te'Cory Couch So.
24 Christian Williams So.
Isaiah Dunson Fr.
Marcus Clarke Fr.

I really doubt there's a single CB in this group who won't contribute in some way. We're just too thin at the position.

Verdict: 0 dead weight

S 7
5 Amari Carter Sr.
21 Bubba Bolden R-Jr.
26 Gurvan Hall, Jr. Jr.
25 Keshawn Washington Fr.
Avantae Williams Fr.
Jalen Harrell Fr.
Brian Balom Fr.
STRK 2
3 Gilbert Frierson R-So.
4 Keontra Smith So.

In reality we have three safety positions...boundary, field and striker. We have 5 guys who have been at Miami more than 15 minutes to man 3 positions, not including true freshman. Washington and Williams are almost guaranteed to see the field.

Verdict: 0 dead weight

LB 8
53 Zach McCloud R-Sr.
44 Bradley Jennings Jr. R-Jr.
17 Waynmon Steed R-Jr.
52 Patrick Joyner, Jr. R-So.
6 Sam Brooks, Jr. So.
9 Avery Huff R-Fr.
11 Corey Flagg, Jr. Fr.
18 Tirek Austin-Cave Fr.

The health and readiness of Jennings, Joyner and Steed will have a huge impact on the LB corps in 2020. I have high hopes for Joyner and Steed if healthy. Jennings, not so much. There's a whole lot of uncertainty at LB. We better hope that one or two out of those three can contribute this season because the freshmen are more than likely not going to be ready to play right away.

Verdict: pending

DL 15
2 Quincy Roche R-Sr.
96 Jonathan Ford Sr.
95 Jaelan Phillips R-Jr.
1 Nesta Jade Silvera Jr.
91 Jordan Miller R-So.
15 Gregory Rousseau R-So.
68 Michael Scibelli R-So.
12 Jahfari Harvey R-Fr.
22 Cameron Williams R-Fr.
81 Jared Harrison-Hunte R-Fr.
98 Jalar Holley R-Fr.
92 Jason Blissett, Jr. R-Fr.
33 Chantz Williams Fr.
Elijah Roberts Fr.
Quentin Williams Fr.

It's gonna be very interesting to see what the 2deep is gonna look like in the fall. With as much raw talent we have on the DL there really is no telling who's gonna flash.

Verdict: an excess of talent

K 2
30 Jose Borregales R-Sr.
45 Camden Price R-So.
P 1
94 Lou Hedley R-Jr.

Obviously no dead weight here.

Final verdict: 11 out of 81 scholarships possibly "dead weight". That's 13.5% if you count the walk-ons...most of which were only given scholarships because we had them to give. If you take out the walk-on (obviously not Parrott and Price because they are essential) then the vast majority of the dead weight on the roster (+80%) is on the OL. I would say that's an indictment on the last two offensive coaching staffs, mostly of not all pre-Diaz era.

Conclusion: @561Cane blames Manny Diaz for a "dead weight" "problem" which is 99.99% not Manny Diaz's fault...because he's too lazy to actually look underneath the surface and/or it's the simple/unimaginative thing to do.
82 scholarships. Forgot about Clay James man. Come on can't forget about the long snapper....
 
nfl draft says different

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What does the draft say?
 
I would love to see that same graphic for the past 10 years. That graphic counts the single most talented CFB roster ever but it was 20 years ago.
 
This is off the top of my head but IIRC these are the Miami picks from the last 4 drafts
2020 - 4th round, 4, 5, 7
2019 - 4, 5, 5, 6, 6
2018 - 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 7
2017 - 1, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7
 
Exactly my g. Like we for us to have the type of pedigree that we have, we think so small, have been conditioned to think small, and in turn our fan base is so callous to the on-goings. Like our greatest joy now is watching who enters and comes out the portal my g. Lol. We got juiced over an IPF, while teams w/ IPF are adding more money to the over football complex.
Man, I get so depressed thinking about where we are. My hope is that USC went through this and when they hired the right coach, everything changed immediately.
Bro let me read up on the history of USC and see is there's some commonalities between us and them and to see if there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
 
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I get that the James hire wasn't the best. Other than the coaching choices he's made, what are the teams not getting that would make any difference in their sport? Football got the IPF, baseball getting indoor cages. The school built new dorms. What would another AD bring that we don't have now? .

I respect your opinion, but as a former D-1 baseball player, I think Dimare was a good choice and don't consider it a lazy hire. I also think DiMare put in the time and deserved the opportunity. Looking at his recruiting classes it's hard to criticize the job he's done in a short period of time. We had a legit national title contending team before the Covid-19 outbreak and he's put together the #2 recruiting class in the nation for 2020. I just hope those guys stay another year and bring home a title.

I'm not trying to argue against what you're saying. I'm just trying to understand what the program is missing.

Here's a really good article that just came out two years ago about our decline. I didn't even know this came out, but this highlights everything I've mentioned.

 
How TF do you count 8 former walkons as anything but dead weight? Maybe other schools use a schollie for a long snapper specialist, I don't know. Seems like a luxury we can't afford. But the rest are only there because we screwed up in recruiting and roster management.

So you got 74 recruited P5 athletes on roster, of which we know a handful are bound to transfer out once they start summer practice and realize they're hopelessly behind others on the depth chart. Given our history of injuries, it wouldn't surprise in the least if we were to be closer to 65 recruited athletes than 70 by game 1. Our roster mismanagement has been criminal.

I'm not blaming Manny for past sins. But he has to fix this perennial nightmare this season. We need to be at our 25/85 caps next February, and hold onto our talent during the offseason, so we enter the 2021 season playing at around 80 not under 70.
 
Says we're underperforming relative to the talent we do acquire.

Exactly. We should own the Coastal. That’s what it says to me. If we just start there, we would have a plus 50% Blue Chip Ratio every year. Then, with competent coaching, we could work our way into competing with Clemson.

Swinney’s first title was won with an average of top 10-12 classes.

Dominate the Coastal first. We have the talent.
 
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