Miami Hurricanes Roster Comparison - 2024 vs 2012

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Twelve years ago - on paper - Miami had run into a wall on a talent acquisition level compared to earlier years. The Canes had seen a high amount of attrition in a pre-transfer portal era in the previous two seasons:

Post 2010 offseason: 23 players departed (11 blue chips). 7 true freshmen were only on the roster one season
Post 2011 offseason: 32 players departed (19 blue chips). 3 true freshmen were only on the roster one season

Of the 55 players departing, 30 of them were blue chips. Replacing them were 13 blue chip players in the 2011 and 2012 classes.

Miami's overall blue chip level in 2010 had stood at 41 players. Going into 2012, it was reduced to just 20. This would be the lowest level the Hurricanes would see from at least 2006 onward, although it would take six more years until the Canes exceeded 30 blue chip players.

The following is a comparison of today's roster versus that team:

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AVERAGE COLLEGE EXPERIENCE
  • 2024: 1.84 years
  • 2012: 1.15 years
AVERAGE 247 RATING
  • 2024: 0.9003
  • 2012: 0.8646
2024 MIAMI POSITION ADVANTAGES (RATING)
  • Wide Receiver - .9237 vs .8748
  • Tight End - .9089 vs .8398
  • Running Back - .9095 vs .9037
  • Quarterback - .8912 vs .8542
  • Defensive Tackle - .9049 vs .8417
  • Defensive End - .9321 vs .8978
  • Linebacker - .9143 vs .8519
  • Safety - .8911 vs .8607
  • Cornerback - .8964 vs .8595
  • Special Teams - .7789 vs .7566

2012 MIAMI POSITION ADVANTAGES (RATING)
  • Offensive Line - .8854 vs .8838
NOTES
  • 2012 Miami was astonishingly young. Average CFB experience for cornerback was an incredible 0.1 years
  • 2012 Miami fielded five freshmen wide receivers, a high number that was needed after only three had been signed between 2009 and 2011
  • 2012 Miami had an extremely thin offensive line room
  • 2012 Miami cornerback room had only one player who was not a true freshman (and he himself had only 1 year)
  • The 2024 Canes have 21 transfer players on their roster
  • The 2024 Canes incoming freshmen have an average recruiting rating of .9086. The 2012 team's incoming class was .8710
  • Although on paper the 2012 Canes were the lowest ranked team, they featured a high number of players who have had multi year NFL careers:
    • Seantrel Henderson (.9988, 6 years NFL)
    • Anthony Chickillo (.9902, 6 years NFL)
    • Duke Johnson (.9894, 8 years NFL)
    • Deon Bush (.9490, 9 years NFL)
    • Ereck Flowers (.9377, 7 years NFL)
    • Brandon Linder (.9362, 8 years NFL)
    • Mike James (.9065, 6 years NFL)
    • Danny Isidora (.8889, 6 years NFL)
    • Denzel Perryman (.8857, 9 years NFL)
    • Rayshawn Jenkins (.8524, 7 years NFL)
    • Philip Dorsett (.8731 ranking, 9 years NFL)
    • Herb Waters (.8872 ranking, 3 years NFL)
    • Jon Feliciano (.8622 ranking, 9 years NFL)
    • Clive Walford (.8333, 5 years NFL)
    • Thurston Armbrister (.6999, 4 years NFL)
 
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Twelve years ago - on paper - Miami had run into a wall on a talent acquisition level compared to earlier years. The Canes had seen a high amount of attrition in a pre-transfer portal era in the previous two seasons:

Post 2010 offseason: 23 players departed (11 blue chips). 7 true freshmen were only on the roster one season
Post 2011 offseason: 32 players departed (19 blue chips). 3 true freshmen were only on the roster one season

Of the 55 players departing, 30 of them were blue chips. Replacing them were 13 blue chip players in the 2011 and 2012 classes.

Miami's overall blue chip level in 2010 had stood at 41 players. Going into 2012, it was reduced to just 20. This would be the lowest level the Hurricanes would see from at least 2006 onward, although it would take six more years until the Canes exceeded 30 blue chip players.

The following is a comparison of today's roster versus that team:

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AVERAGE COLLEGE EXPERIENCE
  • 2024: 1.84 years
  • 2012: 1.14 years
AVERAGE 247 RATING
  • 2024: 0.9003
  • 2012: 0.8650
2024 MIAMI POSITION ADVANTAGES (RATING)
  • Wide Receiver - .9237 vs .8748
  • Tight End - .9089 vs .8398
  • Running Back - .9095 vs .9037
  • Offensive Line - ..8722 vs .8853
  • Quarterback - .8912 vs .8542
  • Defensive Tackle - .9049 vs .8417
  • Defensive End - .9321 vs .8978
  • Linebacker - .9143 vs .8519
  • Safety - .8911 vs .8607
  • Cornerback - .8964 vs .8595
  • Special Teams - .7789 vs .7566

2012 MIAMI POSITION ADVANTAGES (RATING)
  • None
NOTES
  • 2012 Miami was astonishingly young. Average CFB experience for cornerback was an incredible 0.1 years
  • 2012 Miami fielded five freshmen wide receivers, a high number that was needed after only three had been signed between 2009 and 2011
  • 2012 Miami had an extremely thin offensive line room
  • 2012 Miami cornerback room had only one player who was not a true freshman (and he himself had only 1 year)
  • The 2024 Canes have 21 transfer players on their roster
  • The 2024 Canes incoming freshmen have an average recruiting rating of .9086. The 2012 team's incoming class was .8710
  • Although on paper the 2012 Canes were the lowest ranked team, they featured a high number of players who have had multi year NFL careers:
    • Seantrel Henderson (.9988, 6 years NFL)
    • Anthony Chickillo (.9902, 6 years NFL)
    • Duke Johnson (.9894, 8 years NFL)
    • Deon Bush (.9490, 9 years NFL)
    • Ereck Flowers (.9377, 7 years NFL)
    • Brandon Linder (.9362, 8 years NFL)
    • Mike James (.9065, 6 years NFL)
    • Danny Isidora (.8889, 6 years NFL)
    • Denzel Perryman (.8857, 9 years NFL)
    • Rayshawn Jenkins (.8524, 7 years NFL)
    • Philip Dorsett (.8731 ranking, 9 years NFL)
    • Herb Waters (.8872 ranking, 3 years NFL)
    • Jon Feliciano (.8622 ranking, 9 years NFL)
    • Clive Walford (.8333, 5 years NFL)
    • Thurston Armbrister (.6999, 4 years NFL)

I dont understand how this class was 7-5 all the time.

Pros at OL (the entire OL); RB, WR, DB, and LB.

I don’t get it.
 
A careful review shows there was no QB, really nothing at WR, and very little on the DL in 2012. Go figure.
 
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Twelve years ago - on paper - Miami had run into a wall on a talent acquisition level compared to earlier years. The Canes had seen a high amount of attrition in a pre-transfer portal era in the previous two seasons:

Post 2010 offseason: 23 players departed (11 blue chips). 7 true freshmen were only on the roster one season
Post 2011 offseason: 32 players departed (19 blue chips). 3 true freshmen were only on the roster one season

Of the 55 players departing, 30 of them were blue chips. Replacing them were 13 blue chip players in the 2011 and 2012 classes.

Miami's overall blue chip level in 2010 had stood at 41 players. Going into 2012, it was reduced to just 20. This would be the lowest level the Hurricanes would see from at least 2006 onward, although it would take six more years until the Canes exceeded 30 blue chip players.

The following is a comparison of today's roster versus that team:

View attachment 282255
View attachment 282261
View attachment 282262
View attachment 282263

AVERAGE COLLEGE EXPERIENCE
  • 2024: 1.84 years
  • 2012: 1.14 years
AVERAGE 247 RATING
  • 2024: 0.9003
  • 2012: 0.8650
2024 MIAMI POSITION ADVANTAGES (RATING)
  • Wide Receiver - .9237 vs .8748
  • Tight End - .9089 vs .8398
  • Running Back - .9095 vs .9037
  • Offensive Line - ..8722 vs .8853
  • Quarterback - .8912 vs .8542
  • Defensive Tackle - .9049 vs .8417
  • Defensive End - .9321 vs .8978
  • Linebacker - .9143 vs .8519
  • Safety - .8911 vs .8607
  • Cornerback - .8964 vs .8595
  • Special Teams - .7789 vs .7566

2012 MIAMI POSITION ADVANTAGES (RATING)
  • None
NOTES
  • 2012 Miami was astonishingly young. Average CFB experience for cornerback was an incredible 0.1 years
  • 2012 Miami fielded five freshmen wide receivers, a high number that was needed after only three had been signed between 2009 and 2011
  • 2012 Miami had an extremely thin offensive line room
  • 2012 Miami cornerback room had only one player who was not a true freshman (and he himself had only 1 year)
  • The 2024 Canes have 21 transfer players on their roster
  • The 2024 Canes incoming freshmen have an average recruiting rating of .9086. The 2012 team's incoming class was .8710
  • Although on paper the 2012 Canes were the lowest ranked team, they featured a high number of players who have had multi year NFL careers:
    • Seantrel Henderson (.9988, 6 years NFL)
    • Anthony Chickillo (.9902, 6 years NFL)
    • Duke Johnson (.9894, 8 years NFL)
    • Deon Bush (.9490, 9 years NFL)
    • Ereck Flowers (.9377, 7 years NFL)
    • Brandon Linder (.9362, 8 years NFL)
    • Mike James (.9065, 6 years NFL)
    • Danny Isidora (.8889, 6 years NFL)
    • Denzel Perryman (.8857, 9 years NFL)
    • Rayshawn Jenkins (.8524, 7 years NFL)
    • Philip Dorsett (.8731 ranking, 9 years NFL)
    • Herb Waters (.8872 ranking, 3 years NFL)
    • Jon Feliciano (.8622 ranking, 9 years NFL)
    • Clive Walford (.8333, 5 years NFL)
    • Thurston Armbrister (.6999, 4 years NFL)
Wouldn't 2012 have the advantage at OL?
  • .8722 vs .8853
 
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I dont understand how this class was 7-5 all the time.

Pros at OL (the entire OL); RB, WR, DB, and LB.

I don’t get it.
True freshman made up almost the entire cornerback room. Nearly non existent depth at offensive line.

Of the teams I’ve reviewed, 2012 Miami had the most overall inexperience.
 
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52-13 against Kansas State
41-3 against Notre Dame

This was a stretch from 2010 to the Richt era where we could not compete with anyone who had a pulse. Thank god we were in the ACC then.
 
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52-13 against Kansas State
41-3 against Notre Dame

This was a stretch from 2010 to the Richt era where we could not compete with anyone who had a pulse. Thank god we were in the ACC then.

I think Collin Klein just broke another run!
 
I dont understand how this class was 7-5 all the time.

Pros at OL (the entire OL); RB, WR, DB, and LB.

I don’t get it.

Dorito. DTs and DL overall. But yeah, we should have won at least a couple more that season. UNC and Virginia were painful.

Post 2012, after Fisch left, offense sputtered. Coley was good for 1 series each half, couldn't adjust. Meanwhile, defense still sucked because of the Golden/Dorito bend-don't-break philosophy.

Also, we had really bad depth under Golden. Every injury was game changing.
 
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