Miami Herald Kirk Herbstreit

[OrangetieFatface]

According to USA today, he makes within 600k of Holgerson, Freeze, Petrino, Swinney, Briles, Mullen, Snyder, Graham, Stoops, and Andersen

He makes more than Kelly, Cutcliffe, Shaw, McNeill and Helfrich.

Because Miami is a private school the Bonus details of his contract isn't public knowledge, 2.2 is his base salary. For going 9-4 with a bowl game I bet he stands to make 2.7. Win the coastal and/or the ACCCG and **** probably pull in 3. Alice is making serious competitive caish compared to the CFB world.

 

[The []_[]]

Hey, Mr. Logic, Alabama was on probation when Saban took over. They had actual scholarship losses unlike what we got. How long did it take to get them turned around?

they were also 10-2 2 seasons before saban arrived.. they weren't terrible in the dumps like we were.

You're a dishonest piece of ****. Stop posting. The season before Saban got there, Alabama lost SEVEN games. So they were actually worse than UM was when Golden took over.

2005 10-2, 2006 6-7, 2007 7-6, 2008 12-2, 2009 14-0

By all accounts, those two seasons should have KILLED recruiting, and yet somehow Satan was able to go undefeated 3 years removed from a losing season. But yeah, had nothing to do with him as a coach and recruiter. Jimbo did the exact same thing at FSU without the 7-6 first year.


Edit: I would also note that Shula was fired after going 10-2 the season before going 6-7. Didn't get that one more chance to do well. Nope. FIRED.

Why don't we also look at how some other schools did before their NC winning coaches got there:

UF was 7-5 before Urban got there. NC in 2 years.
FSU was 7-6 before Jimbo took over. NC in 4 years.
OU was 5-6 before Stoops got there. NC in 2 years.
USC was 5-7 the year before Carroll got there. NC in 3 years.

The list goes on and on and on of great coaches who were able to quickly turn around schools that were in the dumps. Golden can't even win double digit games. He can't win the division. He can't beat FSU. He can beat a ranked team once in a blue moon. Know why that is? It's because he sucks. Not because he hasn't had enough time. It's because he sucks. He's a loser that cannot win on this level, and anybody who supports Golden at this point is the equivalent of a Penn State cultist.

None of those schools were in an ncaa investigation and had there program in limbo. Would you go to a school as a freshman not knowing if you can play for championships? You're a fool if you don't think that factors into why we have no depth.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

According to USA today, he makes within 600k of Holgerson, Freeze, Petrino, Swinney, Briles, Mullen, Snyder, Graham, Stoops, and Andersen

He makes more than Kelly, Cutcliffe, Shaw, McNeill and Helfrich.

Because Miami is a private school the Bonus details of his contract isn't public knowledge, 2.2 is his base salary. For going 9-4 with a bowl game I bet he stands to make 2.7. Win the coastal and/or the ACCCG and **** probably pull in 3. Alice is making serious competitive caish compared to the CFB world.

LOL WUT?

NO contract has a 500K incentive to win some 3rd rate bowl game. Usually winning your conference will get you 100K. Nick Saban's contract only gives him 125K for a BCS bowl. A third rate bowl only pays him 65K bonus.

Golden would be lucky to get 30-50K for a bowl. So try 2.25 million. NO where near 2.7 Golden would have to win an NC to get anything close to 2.7 here.

 

[DaU83]

I'm sorry, neg me all you want. Maybe its too much logic for some if you to understand. Maybe some of the media are being too realistic for some of you. Golden and his staff are not perfect. But I still view it as he's in his first season of freedom. Questionable decisions by the staff on gamedays are bothersome. But its not realistic to be as perfect and dominant as some of you expect us to be in his 4 years here. Why don't some of you couch coaches apply to be head coach and try to recruit under an ncaa investigation. So what Herby supported Shannon too, look how much coaching turnover we had under Shannons program. Those kids learned a new system and terminology pretty much every season of Randy's tenure. Stop bullshi**ing yourselves. Programs don't win big during an NCAA investigation and bowl bans and recruiting restrictions. Especially when they can go play for FSU, LSU or BAMA. Thats a business decision. It doesnt matter who grew up in south florida and who grew up loving the canes.

Hey, Mr. Logic, Alabama was on probation when Saban took over. They had actual scholarship losses unlike what we got. How long did it take to get them turned around?

they were also 10-2 2 seasons before saban arrived.. they weren't terrible in the dumps like we were.

You're a dishonest piece of ****. Stop posting. The season before Saban got there, Alabama lost SEVEN games. So they were actually worse than UM was when Golden took over.

You're not smart. Go read what I said, then check out Mike shula on wiki.

 

[OrangetieFatface]

According to USA today, he makes within 600k of Holgerson, Freeze, Petrino, Swinney, Briles, Mullen, Snyder, Graham, Stoops, and Andersen

He makes more than Kelly, Cutcliffe, Shaw, McNeill and Helfrich.

Because Miami is a private school the Bonus details of his contract isn't public knowledge, 2.2 is his base salary. For going 9-4 with a bowl game I bet he stands to make 2.7. Win the coastal and/or the ACCCG and **** probably pull in 3. Alice is making serious competitive caish compared to the CFB world.

LOL WUT?

NO contract has a 500K incentive to win some 3rd rate bowl game. Usually winning your conference will get you 100K. Nick Saban's contract only gives him 125K for a BCS bowl. A third rate bowl only pays him 65K bonus.

Golden would be lucky to get 30-50K for a bowl. So try 2.25 million. NO where near 2.7 Golden would have to win an NC to get anything close to 2.7 here.

Bc Als contract isn't public record, take a look at jizzbos.. He makes more than a few hundred k a year off silly **** like graduation rate, APR, running camps, going to non major bowls and winning his division.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/1/5/5276842/jimbo-fisher-contract-salary-buyout

 

[The Franchise]

I'm sorry, neg me all you want. Maybe its too much logic for some if you to understand. Maybe some of the media are being too realistic for some of you. Golden and his staff are not perfect. But I still view it as he's in his first season of freedom. Questionable decisions by the staff on gamedays are bothersome. But its not realistic to be as perfect and dominant as some of you expect us to be in his 4 years here. Why don't some of you couch coaches apply to be head coach and try to recruit under an ncaa investigation. So what Herby supported Shannon too, look how much coaching turnover we had under Shannons program. Those kids learned a new system and terminology pretty much every season of Randy's tenure. Stop bullshi**ing yourselves. Programs don't win big during an NCAA investigation and bowl bans and recruiting restrictions. Especially when they can go play for FSU, LSU or BAMA. Thats a business decision. It doesnt matter who grew up in south florida and who grew up loving the canes.

Hey, Mr. Logic, Alabama was on probation when Saban took over. They had actual scholarship losses unlike what we got. How long did it take to get them turned around?

they were also 10-2 2 seasons before saban arrived.. they weren't terrible in the dumps like we were.

You're too dumb for me to waste much time with, but UM won 9 games a couple years before Folden came in.

 

[imlive365]

Herbstreit said the same type of stuff when we had j12 and that northwestern class. Said we were on out way back to the top and whatta know. Nothing happened

 

[DaU83]

I'm sorry, neg me all you want. Maybe its too much logic for some if you to understand. Maybe some of the media are being too realistic for some of you. Golden and his staff are not perfect. But I still view it as he's in his first season of freedom. Questionable decisions by the staff on gamedays are bothersome. But its not realistic to be as perfect and dominant as some of you expect us to be in his 4 years here. Why don't some of you couch coaches apply to be head coach and try to recruit under an ncaa investigation. So what Herby supported Shannon too, look how much coaching turnover we had under Shannons program. Those kids learned a new system and terminology pretty much every season of Randy's tenure. Stop bullshi**ing yourselves. Programs don't win big during an NCAA investigation and bowl bans and recruiting restrictions. Especially when they can go play for FSU, LSU or BAMA. Thats a business decision. It doesnt matter who grew up in south florida and who grew up loving the canes.

Hey, Mr. Logic, Alabama was on probation when Saban took over. They had actual scholarship losses unlike what we got. How long did it take to get them turned around?

they were also 10-2 2 seasons before saban arrived.. they weren't terrible in the dumps like we were.

You're a dishonest piece of ****. Stop posting. The season before Saban got there, Alabama lost SEVEN games. So they were actually worse than UM was when Golden took over.

I'm sorry, neg me all you want. Maybe its too much logic for some if you to understand. Maybe some of the media are being too realistic for some of you. Golden and his staff are not perfect. But I still view it as he's in his first season of freedom. Questionable decisions by the staff on gamedays are bothersome. But its not realistic to be as perfect and dominant as some of you expect us to be in his 4 years here. Why don't some of you couch coaches apply to be head coach and try to recruit under an ncaa investigation. So what Herby supported Shannon too, look how much coaching turnover we had under Shannons program. Those kids learned a new system and terminology pretty much every season of Randy's tenure. Stop bullshi**ing yourselves. Programs don't win big during an NCAA investigation and bowl bans and recruiting restrictions. Especially when they can go play for FSU, LSU or BAMA. Thats a business decision. It doesnt matter who grew up in south florida and who grew up loving the canes.

Hey, Mr. Logic, Alabama was on probation when Saban took over. They had actual scholarship losses unlike what we got. How long did it take to get them turned around?

they were also 10-2 2 seasons before saban arrived.. they weren't terrible in the dumps like we were.

You're too dumb for me to waste much time with, but UM won 9 games a couple years before Folden came in.

That was a 4 loss team. Shula had a 2 Loss team. Lmk if there's a difference in that. Since you're smart. Lol.

 

[DaU83]

I'm sorry, neg me all you want. Maybe its too much logic for some if you to understand. Maybe some of the media are being too realistic for some of you. Golden and his staff are not perfect. But I still view it as he's in his first season of freedom. Questionable decisions by the staff on gamedays are bothersome. But its not realistic to be as perfect and dominant as some of you expect us to be in his 4 years here. Why don't some of you couch coaches apply to be head coach and try to recruit under an ncaa investigation. So what Herby supported Shannon too, look how much coaching turnover we had under Shannons program. Those kids learned a new system and terminology pretty much every season of Randy's tenure. Stop bullshi**ing yourselves. Programs don't win big during an NCAA investigation and bowl bans and recruiting restrictions. Especially when they can go play for FSU, LSU or BAMA. Thats a business decision. It doesnt matter who grew up in south florida and who grew up loving the canes.

Hey, Mr. Logic, Alabama was on probation when Saban took over. They had actual scholarship losses unlike what we got. How long did it take to get them turned around?

they were also 10-2 2 seasons before saban arrived.. they weren't terrible in the dumps like we were.

You're a dishonest piece of ****. Stop posting. The season before Saban got there, Alabama lost SEVEN games. So they were actually worse than UM was when Golden took over.

Herbstreit said the same type of stuff when we had j12 and that northwestern class. Said we were on out way back to the top and whatta know. Nothing happened

And yet herbie never said randy was a good coach.

 

[rex karz]

Lots of guys said after Shannon it was a five year rebuild. They may have been dead right. Tough to build championship depth sooner than that after recruiting tanks.

Over the past 4 years we've out recruited GaTech, Nebraska and Louisville. Please, tell me again how our recruiting tanked.

It takes at least 5 years WITHOUT sanctions or a "cloud" to get top ten worthy depth after a clusterfark. We are playing with 75 scholarships. We are 4 years in one year removed from "the cloud". Talk to me this time next year

 

[weownfsu]

I'm sorry, neg me all you want. Maybe its too much logic for some if you to understand. Maybe some of the media are being too realistic for some of you. Golden and his staff are not perfect. But I still view it as he's in his first season of freedom. Questionable decisions by the staff on gamedays are bothersome. But its not realistic to be as perfect and dominant as some of you expect us to be in his 4 years here. Why don't some of you couch coaches apply to be head coach and try to recruit under an ncaa investigation. So what Herby supported Shannon too, look how much coaching turnover we had under Shannons program. Those kids learned a new system and terminology pretty much every season of Randy's tenure. Stop bullshi**ing yourselves. Programs don't win big during an NCAA investigation and bowl bans and recruiting restrictions. Especially when they can go play for FSU, LSU or BAMA. Thats a business decision. It doesnt matter who grew up in south florida and who grew up loving the canes.

Hey, Mr. Logic, Alabama was on probation when Saban took over. They had actual scholarship losses unlike what we got. How long did it take to get them turned around?

they were also 10-2 2 seasons before saban arrived.. they weren't terrible in the dumps like we were.

You're a dishonest piece of ****. Stop posting. The season before Saban got there, Alabama lost SEVEN games. So they were actually worse than UM was when Golden took over.

You're not smart. Go read what I said, then check out Mike shula on wiki.

You're beyond dumb, you chinstrapped moron. According to you, what happened TWO years prior to a coach taking over is more relevant than what happened the YEAR prior. Nobody gives a **** about your irrelevant statistics--Nick Saban took over a team with a worse record than Golden did.

 

[weownfsu]

Lots of guys said after Shannon it was a five year rebuild. They may have been dead right. Tough to build championship depth sooner than that after recruiting tanks.

Over the past 4 years we've out recruited GaTech, Nebraska and Louisville. Please, tell me again how our recruiting tanked.

It takes at least 5 years WITHOUT sanctions or a "cloud" to get top ten worthy depth after a clusterfark. We are playing with 75 scholarships. We are 4 years in one year removed from "the cloud". Talk to me this time next year

Stop lying. One, we aren't playing with 75 scholarships--at least not because of the NCAA. IF we're playing with that few this season, it is our fault and nobody else's.

Two, there are plenty of examples of coaches who dealt with "clusterfark" [sic] and turned it around within 4 years.

Three, if we can't beat the teams whom we out-recruit now, why do you think that would magically change next year?

 

[CANE4LIFE]

According to USA today, he makes within 600k of Holgerson, Freeze, Petrino, Swinney, Briles, Mullen, Snyder, Graham, Stoops, and Andersen

He makes more than Kelly, Cutcliffe, Shaw, McNeill and Helfrich.

Because Miami is a private school the Bonus details of his contract isn't public knowledge, 2.2 is his base salary. For going 9-4 with a bowl game I bet he stands to make 2.7. Win the coastal and/or the ACCCG and **** probably pull in 3. Alice is making serious competitive caish compared to the CFB world.

LOL WUT?

NO contract has a 500K incentive to win some 3rd rate bowl game. Usually winning your conference will get you 100K. Nick Saban's contract only gives him 125K for a BCS bowl. A third rate bowl only pays him 65K bonus.

Golden would be lucky to get 30-50K for a bowl. So try 2.25 million. NO where near 2.7 Golden would have to win an NC to get anything close to 2.7 here.

Bc Als contract isn't public record, take a look at jizzbos.. He makes more than a few hundred k a year off silly **** like graduation rate, APR, running camps, going to non major bowls and winning his division.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/1/5/5276842/jimbo-fisher-contract-salary-buyout

They all have that bull****, and most of that is factored into their overall salary. They have their base, bonuses and incentives for a few other things here and there. The bigger programs give bigger incentives because the big boosters kick in a lot of that money. But things like the APR graduation rate stuff is like 30-40K. Its not 6 figures. And again, Saban only gets 65K for going to a bowl. Jimbo gets 50K for going to a non major bowl. So how would Golden get 500K for going 8-4 and going to a third rate bowl?

Golden is far less paid than those guys, so I highly doubt his contract is going to have incentives that blow away Saban's incentives. Even if he won the ACC he wouldn't get near 2.7 Jimbo only gets 200K for winning the ACC. And Im quite certain Jimbo's contract is sweeter than Golden's.

 

[DaU83]

Hey, Mr. Logic, Alabama was on probation when Saban took over. They had actual scholarship losses unlike what we got. How long did it take to get them turned around?

they were also 10-2 2 seasons before saban arrived.. they weren't terrible in the dumps like we were.

You're a dishonest piece of ****. Stop posting. The season before Saban got there, Alabama lost SEVEN games. So they were actually worse than UM was when Golden took over.

You're not smart. Go read what I said, then check out Mike shula on wiki.

You're beyond dumb, you chinstrapped moron. According to you, what happened TWO years prior to a coach taking over is more relevant than what happened the YEAR prior. Nobody gives a **** about your irrelevant statistics--Nick Saban took over a team with a worse record than Golden did.

That had had more success closer to the time he took over.

 

[rex karz]

Fire Butch Davis!

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Fire Butch Davis!

I agree fire him ESPN! Give him more motivation come back!

 

[GoldenCanesAL]

Anyone with a half a brain sees this... Problem is this board is brainless

 

[OrangetieFatface]

According to USA today, he makes within 600k of Holgerson, Freeze, Petrino, Swinney, Briles, Mullen, Snyder, Graham, Stoops, and Andersen

He makes more than Kelly, Cutcliffe, Shaw, McNeill and Helfrich.

Because Miami is a private school the Bonus details of his contract isn't public knowledge, 2.2 is his base salary. For going 9-4 with a bowl game I bet he stands to make 2.7. Win the coastal and/or the ACCCG and **** probably pull in 3. Alice is making serious competitive caish compared to the CFB world.

LOL WUT?

NO contract has a 500K incentive to win some 3rd rate bowl game. Usually winning your conference will get you 100K. Nick Saban's contract only gives him 125K for a BCS bowl. A third rate bowl only pays him 65K bonus.

Golden would be lucky to get 30-50K for a bowl. So try 2.25 million. NO where near 2.7 Golden would have to win an NC to get anything close to 2.7 here.

Bc Als contract isn't public record, take a look at jizzbos.. He makes more than a few hundred k a year off silly **** like graduation rate, APR, running camps, going to non major bowls and winning his division.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/1/5/5276842/jimbo-fisher-contract-salary-buyout

They all have that bull****, and most of that is factored into their overall salary. They have their base, bonuses and incentives for a few other things here and there. The bigger programs give bigger incentives because the big boosters kick in a lot of that money. But things like the APR graduation rate stuff is like 30-40K. Its not 6 figures. And again, Saban only gets 65K for going to a bowl. Jimbo gets 50K for going to a non major bowl. So how would Golden get 500K for going 8-4 and going to a third rate bowl?

Golden is far less paid than those guys, so I highly doubt his contract is going to have incentives that blow away Saban's incentives. Even if he won the ACC he wouldn't get near 2.7 Jimbo only gets 200K for winning the ACC. And Im quite certain Jimbo's contract is sweeter than Golden's.

The entire point of my post is that they all have that ****, and on that list every other coaches bonuses are factored in(you would have to actually do a little research and look at it before you wildly make blanket statements). You just inadvertently confirmed my argument.

 

[weownfsu]

they were also 10-2 2 seasons before saban arrived.. they weren't terrible in the dumps like we were.

You're a dishonest piece of ****. Stop posting. The season before Saban got there, Alabama lost SEVEN games. So they were actually worse than UM was when Golden took over.

You're not smart. Go read what I said, then check out Mike shula on wiki.

You're beyond dumb, you chinstrapped moron. According to you, what happened TWO years prior to a coach taking over is more relevant than what happened the YEAR prior. Nobody gives a **** about your irrelevant statistics--Nick Saban took over a team with a worse record than Golden did.

That had had more success closer to the time he took over.

No, that had LESS success closer to the time he took over, you clown. You're an incompetent child.

 

[DaU83]

You're a dishonest piece of ****. Stop posting. The season before Saban got there, Alabama lost SEVEN games. So they were actually worse than UM was when Golden took over.

You're not smart. Go read what I said, then check out Mike shula on wiki.

You're beyond dumb, you chinstrapped moron. According to you, what happened TWO years prior to a coach taking over is more relevant than what happened the YEAR prior. Nobody gives a **** about your irrelevant statistics--Nick Saban took over a team with a worse record than Golden did.

That had had more success closer to the time he took over.

No, that had LESS success closer to the time he took over, you clown. You're an incompetent child.

a 10-2 season is is better than a 9-4 season.. no matter how you look at it. bama at the very least had 1 good season closer to Saban's arrival, our best was a 4 loss season closest to golden's arrival.

and they ended up ranked 8th,, we on the other hand were 19th..