Miami fan raises $1.5K to fly 'Fire Al Golden' banner at VT

[Jedi Master Cane]

What quality coach is ever going to want to coach for this fan base?

For real, if a top coach is between choosing to coach for UM or pretty much any other top 50 college team, he will most likely choose the other team so he doesn't have to chance dealing with our ****ty fans.

Not to mention that we most likely won't be able to offer them top dollar like the other programs, so why would they ever come here?

Neg me all you want, but you banner flyers are F#cking idiots!

You are doing nothing to make change, just wasting your money embarrassing our program further, and 100% hurting our chances at hiring better coaches in the future weather you like to believe that or not.

You banner flyers actually think your doing something good for the program, but you are doing the complete opposite, yet you are too stupid to realize.

Enjoy negging me for this.

Consider yourself negged.

And after that...go root for another team with your loser mentality. The last time I checked mediocrity is not the standard at the University of Miami.

What kind of coach is gonna take this job? One with a backbone.

I will always root for the Miami Hurricanes, you guys on the other hand are actually rooting for other teams.

Why do I have a looser mentality?

B/c I don't think that rooting against the Canes or flying "Fire our Head Coach" banners are not a good idea?

Think before you type.

Think before I type? Jesus Christ are you retarded?

There's no one on this planet that cares more about this program than I do. I, however, like to think of myself as PROACTIVE, not REACTIVE. The current situation isn't going to change unless something dramatic happens. That something dramatic is an abysmal season that forces the administration to make a change.

Re-read that sentence about 145 times. Write it over and over on a chalkboard and let it sink in. After that..ask yourself why I'm rooting for losses.

Rooting for losses, under the current set of circumstances, is a **** of a lot more about "being a fan" than taking the Don BAiley Jr approach and sitting back hoping a miracle happens.

You keep your retarded logic...I'll keep looking for any angle that rids us of this loser and gets this program going in the right direction again.

And for the record I'll be rooting for VT on thursday while wearing my Canes gear from head to toe. Let that marinate.

 

[tomi]

Golden is probably trying to figure out a new punchline to counteract the banner

 

[tyrn]

Like someone else pointed out, the only press that these banners are creating is more negative toward our fan base than putting heat on Golden, who will most likely be kept through next year whether any of us like it or not.

Like I said, I want him gone just as much as the next Cane fan, there is just other ways of doing it that don't embarrass our fan base and scare away future top quality Head Coaches.

If you think that our players(the ones that I care about) like seeing those planes or like playing for empty stadiums or like hearing that our "fans" are actually rooting for them to loose then your crazy.

Negg me all you want(as if I give a ****), but I will never root against the Canes, or ever think that flying a "Fire our HC" banner is a good idea.

You guys are obviously so much better Cane fans then myself with rooting against our kids and all, so I will just exit this debate, b/c we are just going in circles.

 

[AntwanJ306]

Look at WTH's post tyrn, Gator fans flew the fire Zook banner at a BOWL GAME, Outback Bowl nonetheless, that bowl sounds like a NC game for us at this point. And what happened next? They hired Urban fcking Myer.

Next? Urban Meyer was hired two years after that banner was flown. The banner did nothing.

 

[AntwanJ306]

absolutely people will view UM as a great opportunity. Great coaches have huge egos...**** just about all coaches have huge egos, but the great ones know how to channel their egos. Any coach worth a **** would view miami as their ticket to the big time (wether that's going to the nfl or becoming a legend as a college coach).

The blue print is there:

1. recruit sofla (all positions, not just skill positions *looking at you folden*)

2. work the kids hard as f*ck and make practice harder than the games, break them and build them back up in your own image

3. show ZERO mercy on your opponents and breed that mentality within your players

4. **** excellence

5. let the players play: enforce discipline but encourage a wreckless abandon; this IS POSSIBLE.

Which people will view this as a great opportunity? Because I don't remember the Sabans and Miles and Petersons of the world knocking on our door when we hired Larry Coker, Randy Shannon, and Al Golden.

But you're right......THIS time we will hire the right guy.

 

[orange&green]

What quality coach is ever going to want to coach for this fan base?

For real, if a top coach is between choosing to coach for UM or pretty much any other top 50 college team, he will most likely choose the other team so he doesn't have to chance dealing with our ****ty fans.

Not to mention that we most likely won't be able to offer them top dollar like the other programs, so why would they ever come here?

Neg me all you want, but you banner flyers are F#cking idiots!

You are doing nothing to make change, just wasting your money embarrassing our program further, and 100% hurting our chances at hiring better coaches in the future weather you like to believe that or not.

You banner flyers actually think your doing something good for the program, but you are doing the complete opposite, yet you are too stupid to realize.

Enjoy negging me for this.

Consider yourself negged.

And after that...go root for another team with your loser mentality. The last time I checked mediocrity is not the standard at the University of Miami.

What kind of coach is gonna take this job? One with a backbone.

I will always root for the Miami Hurricanes, you guys on the other hand are actually rooting for other teams.

Why do I have a looser mentality?

B/c I don't think that rooting against the Canes or flying "Fire our Head Coach" banners are not a good idea?

Think before you type.

Think before I type? Jesus Christ are you retarded?

There's no one on this planet that cares more about this program than I do. I, however, like to think of myself as PROACTIVE, not REACTIVE. The current situation isn't going to change unless something dramatic happens. That something dramatic is an abysmal season that forces the administration to make a change.

Re-read that sentence about 145 times. Write it over and over on a chalkboard and let it sink in. After that..ask yourself why I'm rooting for losses.

Rooting for losses, under the current set of circumstances, is a **** of a lot more about "being a fan" than taking the Don BAiley Jr approach and sitting back hoping a miracle happens.

You keep your retarded logic...I'll keep looking for any angle that rids us of this loser and gets this program going in the right direction again.

And for the record I'll be rooting for VT on thursday while wearing my Canes gear from head to toe. Let that marinate.

Question to the Planet's #1 Canes Fan - Will you be wearing VT panties underneath all that Canes gear on Thursday night?

(Here's a link for you: http://acc.teamfanshop.com/catalog/..._Hokies_Ladies_Maroon_Supreme_Thong_Underwear)

Go Canes!

 

[OrangetieFatface]

Like someone else pointed out, the only press that these banners are creating is more negative toward our fan base than putting heat on Golden, who will most likely be kept through next year whether any of us like it or not.

Like I said, I want him gone just as much as the next Cane fan, there is just other ways of doing it that don't embarrass our fan base and scare away future top quality Head Coaches.

If you think that our players(the ones that I care about) like seeing those planes or like playing for empty stadiums or like hearing that our "fans" are actually rooting for them to loose then your crazy.

Negg me all you want(as if I give a ****), but I will never root against the Canes, or ever think that flying a "Fire our HC" banner is a good idea.

You guys are obviously so much better Cane fans then myself with rooting against our kids and all, so I will just exit this debate, b/c we are just going in circles.

Theres 10,000 people in the stands and tickets are $0.88.
We lose to bad teams handily.
Golden's 1-22 against teams with 8+ wins, and he hasn't beaten a team with less than 5 losses while at Miami.

The players are stockholmed, the fans are not. I personally dont have the strength to root against Miami, but flying a banner is the least embarassing thing about our fanbase. Al Golden deserves to be embarrassed, and any other head coach that doesn't want the job because he'll be humiliated for a long pattern of losing shouldn't coach here anyway.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

LET'S GO HOKIES

 

[Consigliere]

First of all, what makes you think that you have the privilege of addressing me? Speak when spoken to, troglodyte.

Second, any head coach worth a **** will see that Golden's downfall has been his own doing. Any head coach worth a **** has confidence that is usually at abnormal levels. Levels to where potential banners flying don't even register because they know they will win. Do you seriously want a head coach who is scared away by some banners?

It is people like you who are truly the embarrassment to the fanbase, with your above the fray, holier than thou attitude towards everything. It's people like you who are truly ruining the program by idly sitting and accepting the garbage that is on the field every weekend. If this is not the way to go about it, then what is? Giving the school more money? Because if anything incentivizes people to change the status quo, it's money.

What do you expect from this special group?

I'm not sure why coaches wouldn't want the Miami gig.

Here are some positives:

1. Fertile Recruiting Base (Best in the country). It's a lot easier to recruit when you only have to DRIVE around for recruits. Assemble the right staff and it becomes easier.

2. Job Security: Current Admin don't put any REAL pressure on you for results. Our last 2 coaches got 4 years (possibly more for Golden) with extensions and buyouts that made little to no sense.

3. Financial Package: Although the exact details are unclear, it is believed that Al Golden makes a base salary of $2 Million per year (let's assume USA Today is right and the total salary is $2.15 Million). At that amount ($2.15 M) he would be the 46th highest paid coach. Also keep in mind he isn't hitting his big incentives that are likely in the contract (BCS games, ACC Champs etc.). As another frame of reference, the 25th highest paid coach makes $2.6 Million, not much of a difference and very affordable. In addition, in Florida there are no state income taxes. So even a small state tax (5%) would make our salary equivalent to $2.26 Million.

Now I think by now our school has learned their lesson on extensions and buyouts. Perhaps they will spend their money smarter and on the front end. Still, even at 2.15 Million that is a pretty darn good salary and more then the following; Hugh Freeze @ Ole Miss and Mark D'Antonoio @ MSU.

We easily could pay more and even if we didn't the salary is not terrible. People act like we're paying coaches in a dead worthless currency .

4. Location: I know many people are jealous of Alabama or Mississippi or Gaysville with their lovely atmosphere but being in Coral Gables is not to bad.

5. For the Retards: A Banner has no impact on whether a coach would pick this place as a destination. The idea that you think it impacts a decision for a future coach is insane.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/salaries/

 

[Consigliere]

We will fly a banner at every game, College Gameday, wherever, from here on out if we have to.

Long live the West End Zone and all of the other real Miami fans who really care about this program and aren't satisfied watching the antithesis of Miami football, every Saturday.

You guys really think we will be able to attract a quality head coach after all of this?

Is this a serious question?

100% serious?

Not a Golden supporter at all, just what HC worth a **** would choose Miami over any other top 50 program when they have to deal with this ****?

You are delusional if you just say "any coach with confidence".

Every HC that we might want to replace him are watching what is going on and saying to themselves "not ever going there" and if you think otherwise, then you sir have your head in the sand.

I don't care if you support Adolf Hitler.

Deal with what, a ***ing banner? Try dealing with an admin that actually puts pressure on a coach to perform. Try having USCs AD who told a coach not to return after a Loss. That is a real pressure. Those are actual standards. This banner will have zero effect on any future coach.

The idea that you think a banner has an impact makes me think you wear a tin foil hat? Do you wear tin foil?

 

[ProjectMKUltra5]

What evidence do you have that the banner is doing so much harm tyrn? Show me where the banner flying has killed off other programs or made it so difficult for a elite program to ever hire another competent coach. Meanwhile I can show you example after example of the public forcing change in multiple types of business. Once the new coach is hired all that anger and animosity will go right out the window to be replaced with hope and optimism, nobody will remember the banner(s). The fact is that you're overestimating how damaging the banner is, this isn't new to UM, we didn't invent flying banners nor are we the only irrational fans.

 

[supacane]

absolutely people will view UM as a great opportunity. Great coaches have huge egos...**** just about all coaches have huge egos, but the great ones know how to channel their egos. Any coach worth a **** would view miami as their ticket to the big time (wether that's going to the nfl or becoming a legend as a college coach).

The blue print is there:

1. recruit sofla (all positions, not just skill positions *looking at you folden*)

2. work the kids hard as f*ck and make practice harder than the games, break them and build them back up in your own image

3. show ZERO mercy on your opponents and breed that mentality within your players

4. **** excellence

5. let the players play: enforce discipline but encourage a wreckless abandon; this IS POSSIBLE.

Which people will view this as a great opportunity? Because I don't remember the Sabans and Miles and Petersons of the world knocking on our door when we hired Larry Coker, Randy Shannon, and Al Golden.

But you're right......THIS time we will hire the right guy.

Money talks. Not one of them give a **** about fans. And the fact that some of you are saying we are destined to be stuck with this loser is the precise reason we suck azzz. Cheapness. There is no worst fans than SEC inbreds. Just wait till any of them lose a couple games. We held it together for 10 years. Enough is enough

 

[AntwanJ306]

Money talks. Not one of them give a **** about fans. And the fact that some of you are saying we are destined to be stuck with this loser is the precise reason we suck azzz. Cheapness. There is no worst fans than SEC inbreds. Just wait till any of them lose a couple games. We held it together for 10 years. Enough is enough

Cool. Where were all of these coaches for the last 13 years when we were hiring?

 

[streetja]

Look at WTH's post tyrn, Gator fans flew the fire Zook banner at a BOWL GAME, Outback Bowl nonetheless, that bowl sounds like a NC game for us at this point. And what happened next? They hired Urban fcking Myer.

Next? Urban Meyer was hired two years after that banner was flown. The banner did nothing.

Exactly, the banner did nothing to scare away a top tier coach with NC ambitions.

I rather fly a banner, which I donated for the Vtech game, than sit quietly and wait for the administration to open their eyes to the catastrophe that was last and this season.

 

[supacane]

Money talks. Not one of them give a **** about fans. And the fact that some of you are saying we are destined to be stuck with this loser is the precise reason we suck azzz. Cheapness. There is no worst fans than SEC inbreds. Just wait till any of them lose a couple games. We held it together for 10 years. Enough is enough

Cool. Where were all of these coaches for the last 13 years when we were hiring?

There was plenty, we went with the cheapest easiest one to pry away. Two already part of the staff and one that's a cultural contradiction to Miami. Who was a loser , reactive passive ****. Not to mention we could have swallowed our pride and hire Butch Davis, who is still unemployed while we are stuck with this loser excuse maker in chief.

 

[Consigliere]

absolutely people will view UM as a great opportunity. Great coaches have huge egos...**** just about all coaches have huge egos, but the great ones know how to channel their egos. Any coach worth a **** would view miami as their ticket to the big time (wether that's going to the nfl or becoming a legend as a college coach).

The blue print is there:

1. recruit sofla (all positions, not just skill positions *looking at you folden*)

2. work the kids hard as f*ck and make practice harder than the games, break them and build them back up in your own image

3. show ZERO mercy on your opponents and breed that mentality within your players

4. **** excellence

5. let the players play: enforce discipline but encourage a wreckless abandon; this IS POSSIBLE.

Which people will view this as a great opportunity? Because I don't remember the Sabans and Miles and Petersons of the world knocking on our door when we hired Larry Coker, Randy Shannon, and Al Golden.

But you're right......THIS time we will hire the right guy.

Yup because that is how it works. The coaches have to come to you. Perhaps if our AD was qualified and our ADMIN cared, we could do a little better job. Perhaps we COULD ACTUALLY SEARCH.

We could have had Malzahan, Harbaugh and Patterson if we went after them instead of RS. We could have had Malzahan if we went after him (like some wanted) instead of Golden in 2010. The problem is the people making decisions are not qualified to make decisions. They end up costing the program more money with extensions (unearned) and buyouts with their decisions.

It starts at the top.

 

[streetja]

Money talks. Not one of them give a **** about fans. And the fact that some of you are saying we are destined to be stuck with this loser is the precise reason we suck azzz. Cheapness. There is no worst fans than SEC inbreds. Just wait till any of them lose a couple games. We held it together for 10 years. Enough is enough

Cool. Where were all of these coaches for the last 13 years when we were hiring?

We are incompetent when it comes to coaching searches, there were quality coaches out there when we hired Shannon and then Golden, but we took the lazy and cheap approach. Point is we're spending the money to get a coach that can get us out of this irrelevancy that we're in, the administration just needs to be serious about the next search.

 

[AntwanJ306]

Look at WTH's post tyrn, Gator fans flew the fire Zook banner at a BOWL GAME, Outback Bowl nonetheless, that bowl sounds like a NC game for us at this point. And what happened next? They hired Urban fcking Myer.

Next? Urban Meyer was hired two years after that banner was flown. The banner did nothing.

Exactly, the banner did nothing to scare away a top tier coach with NC ambitions.

I rather fly a banner, which I donated for the Vtech game, than sit quietly and wait for the administration to open their eyes to the catastrophe that was last and this season.

It did nothing to anything. It certainly didn't get Ron Zook fired.

 

[AntwanJ306]

Money talks. Not one of them give a **** about fans. And the fact that some of you are saying we are destined to be stuck with this loser is the precise reason we suck azzz. Cheapness. There is no worst fans than SEC inbreds. Just wait till any of them lose a couple games. We held it together for 10 years. Enough is enough

Cool. Where were all of these coaches for the last 13 years when we were hiring?

We are incompetent when it comes to coaching searches, there were quality coaches out there when we hired Shannon and then Golden, but we took the lazy and cheap approach. Point is we're spending the money to get a coach that can get us out of this irrelevancy that we're in, the administration just needs to be serious about the next search.

That's the whole point. What makes you think that the next time will be any different?

 

[AntwanJ306]

absolutely people will view UM as a great opportunity. Great coaches have huge egos...**** just about all coaches have huge egos, but the great ones know how to channel their egos. Any coach worth a **** would view miami as their ticket to the big time (wether that's going to the nfl or becoming a legend as a college coach).

The blue print is there:

1. recruit sofla (all positions, not just skill positions *looking at you folden*)

2. work the kids hard as f*ck and make practice harder than the games, break them and build them back up in your own image

3. show ZERO mercy on your opponents and breed that mentality within your players

4. **** excellence

5. let the players play: enforce discipline but encourage a wreckless abandon; this IS POSSIBLE.

Which people will view this as a great opportunity? Because I don't remember the Sabans and Miles and Petersons of the world knocking on our door when we hired Larry Coker, Randy Shannon, and Al Golden.

But you're right......THIS time we will hire the right guy.

Yup because that is how it works. The coaches have to come to you. Perhaps if our AD was qualified and our ADMIN cared, we could do a little better job. Perhaps we COULD ACTUALLY SEARCH.

We could have had Malzahan, Harbaugh and Patterson if we went after them instead of RS. We could have had Malzahan if we went after him (like some wanted) instead of Golden in 2010. The problem is the people making decisions are not qualified to make decisions. They end up costing the program more money with extensions (unearned) and buyouts with their decisions.

It starts at the top.

Again, thanks for making my point. All of those variables still exist. What evidence do you have that the next one will be any different?