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This is very good news. I wanted to and planned to attend, but I have to run two post offices that week. It'll be a busy week, but that's a nice way to start off the weekend and coincidentally corresponds with what time I committed to on Saturday.
 
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Miami's been getting live games against lesser teams in the Sun Belt lately. Fau last year was their first major live game , now this . Well roll up the score like we ended up coin last year at fau. I was at that game
 
mjackson6 said:
NY Shyne said:
Better get them early, 3332 ft above sea level. Big guys will be gassed.

SwagUniversity said:
Good. Looking foward to seeing a rabid D-Line get 10+ sacks on national TV.
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Our 3's should be able to handle their 1's. Shouldn't be an issue especially if our guys are in as good of shape as we keep hearing.

Also, I live about an hour away, it's not that bad compared to Colorado. I thought I was good from living in the altitude my whole life, went their for a collegiate baseball league that summer, took me about a month to get used to it.
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Most our 3's belong at schools like App st.
 
HurricaneVision said:
There is no doubt that Miami should be favored to win, and expected to win, but the confidence of our fan base is a bit much on this one. As far as advanced analytics go, App. State was a better team last year. In fact, we didn't fare better than any App. State in any metric you want to choose.

Opponent adjusted stats for offense, defense, special teams, possession efficiency, field position efficiency. You name it. App State was better. They are 17-2 in their last 19 FBS games. Where is the Manny Diaz defense most vulnerable with this secondary? In explosive plays. App State was 7th in the nation in explosive plays last year. They did this mostly through a power spread rushing attack...another area that Diaz' defenses have struggled.

Again, you should expect Miami to win, you should expect improvement due to coaching and game planning, but to expect Miami to walk into a crazy atmosphere at noon early in the season and blow this team out is expecting a lot.
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Good point, hopefully Diaz has learned and can adjust form these types of teams.
 
JgDaCane said:
You make a statement here on National TV. You don't take your foot off the gas until the 4th. You let the world know the Miami Hurricanes are not giving one single ****. I would encourage helmet to helmet kill shots & 15 yard unsportmanlike TD celebrations.
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Couldn't agree more
 
HurricaneVision said:
There is no doubt that Miami should be favored to win, and expected to win, but the confidence of our fan base is a bit much on this one. As far as advanced analytics go, App. State was a better team last year. In fact, we didn't fare better than any App. State in any metric you want to choose.

Opponent adjusted stats for offense, defense, special teams, possession efficiency, field position efficiency. You name it. App State was better. They are 17-2 in their last 19 FBS games. Where is the Manny Diaz defense most vulnerable with this secondary? In explosive plays. App State was 7th in the nation in explosive plays last year. They did this mostly through a power spread rushing attack...another area that Diaz' defenses have struggled.

Again, you should expect Miami to win, you should expect improvement due to coaching and game planning, but to expect Miami to walk into a crazy atmosphere at noon early in the season and blow this team out is expecting a lot.
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who did they play though ?
 
HurricaneVision said:
There is no doubt that Miami should be favored to win, and expected to win, but the confidence of our fan base is a bit much on this one. As far as advanced analytics go, App. State was a better team last year. In fact, we didn't fare better than any App. State in any metric you want to choose.

Opponent adjusted stats for offense, defense, special teams, possession efficiency, field position efficiency. You name it. App State was better. They are 17-2 in their last 19 FBS games. Where is the Manny Diaz defense most vulnerable with this secondary? In explosive plays. App State was 7th in the nation in explosive plays last year. They did this mostly through a power spread rushing attack...another area that Diaz' defenses have struggled.

Again, you should expect Miami to win, you should expect improvement due to coaching and game planning, but to expect Miami to walk into a crazy atmosphere at noon early in the season and blow this team out is expecting a lot.
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The sweaty mamaluke won't be our coach for this game, if he were, I'd be worried.

These were App State's wins last year:

Howard Bison
Old Dominion
Wyoming
Georgia State
ULM
Georgia Southern
Troy Trojans
Idaho
Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns
South Alabama Jaguars

Losses:

Arkansas State
Clemson

I don't know what you mean by "opponent adjusted" statistics, but I am NOT in awe of 10 wins with that type of schedule, unless I was another team in the Sunbelt

Their national rankings are meaningless when you look at their opposition.

The only way to be concerned about this game is if somehow we think the current crop of players have not adjusted to Richt and his staff, or are not responding to his coaching, by the third game of the season. That will be the only thing that would worry me, but I don't see that happening. Again, Fat Alfonso is not coaching.
 
Golsen82 said:
mjackson6 said:
NY Shyne said:
Better get them early, 3332 ft above sea level. Big guys will be gassed.

SwagUniversity said:
Good. Looking foward to seeing a rabid D-Line get 10+ sacks on national TV.
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Our 3's should be able to handle their 1's. Shouldn't be an issue especially if our guys are in as good of shape as we keep hearing.

Also, I live about an hour away, it's not that bad compared to Colorado. I thought I was good from living in the altitude my whole life, went their for a collegiate baseball league that summer, took me about a month to get used to it.
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Most our 3's belong at schools like App st.
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Has the Cane's overall depth in talent fallen that far? Have teams like App St closed the gap that much?

Ouch...
 
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HurricaneVision said:
There is no doubt that Miami should be favored to win, and expected to win, but the confidence of our fan base is a bit much on this one. As far as advanced analytics go, App. State was a better team last year. In fact, we didn't fare better than any App. State in any metric you want to choose.

Opponent adjusted stats for offense, defense, special teams, possession efficiency, field position efficiency. You name it. App State was better. They are 17-2 in their last 19 FBS games. Where is the Manny Diaz defense most vulnerable with this secondary? In explosive plays. App State was 7th in the nation in explosive plays last year. They did this mostly through a power spread rushing attack...another area that Diaz' defenses have struggled.

Again, you should expect Miami to win, you should expect improvement due to coaching and game planning, but to expect Miami to walk into a crazy atmosphere at noon early in the season and blow this team out is expecting a lot.
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Strong points...you know some of the rhesus troop are going to go crazy over what you wrote....
 
This game will be very close after the first half den Miami will pull away. App State is a solid team.
 
Game worries me tbh. We have nothing to gain playing them. This is the kind of game that Alfraud could easily lose.
 
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
HurricaneVision said:
There is no doubt that Miami should be favored to win, and expected to win, but the confidence of our fan base is a bit much on this one. As far as advanced analytics go, App. State was a better team last year. In fact, we didn't fare better than any App. State in any metric you want to choose.

Opponent adjusted stats for offense, defense, special teams, possession efficiency, field position efficiency. You name it. App State was better. They are 17-2 in their last 19 FBS games. Where is the Manny Diaz defense most vulnerable with this secondary? In explosive plays. App State was 7th in the nation in explosive plays last year. They did this mostly through a power spread rushing attack...another area that Diaz' defenses have struggled.

Again, you should expect Miami to win, you should expect improvement due to coaching and game planning, but to expect Miami to walk into a crazy atmosphere at noon early in the season and blow this team out is expecting a lot.
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The sweaty mamaluke won't be our coach for this game, if he were, I'd be worried.

These were App State's wins last year:

Howard Bison
Old Dominion
Wyoming
Georgia State
ULM
Georgia Southern
Troy Trojans
Idaho
Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns
South Alabama Jaguars

Losses:

Arkansas State
Clemson

I don't know what you mean by "opponent adjusted" statistics, but I am NOT in awe of 10 wins with that type of schedule, unless I was another team in the Sunbelt

Their national rankings are meaningless when you look at their opposition.

The only way to be concerned about this game is if somehow we think the current crop of players have not adjusted to Richt and his staff, or are not responding to his coaching, by the third game of the season. That will be the only thing that would worry me, but I don't see that happening. Again, Fat Alfonso is not coaching.
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Opponent adjusted is exactly what it sounds like. It accounts for their opposition. If you aren't accounting for the fact App State plays in the Sun Belt, all of their information is useless. If you do account for the fact that they are in the Sun Belt, you should take notice of their results.

I knew it wouldn't be popular to bring advanced stats into play, but if you are simply going to say, "here is who they beat, I'm not impressed" and not take into account how they beat those teams, and the results factored in, plus the fact this is their Super Bowl and our kids will be expecting to blow them out, then we probably aren't going to be able to have a productive conversation.
 
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