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The mentality around the Miami program, and around the South Florida football community at large since the Coker days, has just been weak-minded and entitled. Straight diva ****.

We think that just because a kid is from South Florida, or just because a kid has the "U" plastered on the side of his helmet, that he's automatically superior to anybody else. We ALWAYS overrate our players, and we ALWAYS think we have better talent than any of the teams we play.

Nevermind that it took us over a decade to win the Coastal, or that we haven't won **** since 2001.... nah we just tell ourselves we are better.

And when **** inevitably goes wrong, we always have the same fallback excuse. The same complaint every time....different coach, same complaint. Since it can't ever be the kids, we ALWAYS blame X's and O's.

Coker, Shannon, Golden... all had talented players (or so we're told), they were just dummies with X's and O's.

They said Shannon ran his vanilla defense and went through a string of ****** OC's, each with his own X's and O's problems (Patrick Nix's bubbles, Whipple's reliance on big plays). Golden had dorito's "bend don't break" defense and Fisch's bubble screens. Richt? Outdated offense, no motion, offense straight out of the 90's. Of course it never occurs to any of us that maybe the players just aren't that great.

Here's the bottom line.

The kids from Miami have egos that don't match their production. Point blank. They're not as good as they think they are. And that's true at the high school level as well as the ones currently at UM. And that's the fault of the coaches, the handlers, the families, the friends, and the community at large who think that just because the Canes dominated 30 years ago, that somehow these players today don't have to work for it or earn it.

Yeah, you get one or two kids like Jaquan Johnson who have that old school Canes mentality and work ethic and who are willing to do what it takes to achieve greatness, but kids like him are too few and far between.

Too few and far between. We used to fill a whole team with guys like Jaquan Johnson.

There is way too much entitlement, way too much "feeding the fam," way too much respecting of stupid decisions and frankly way too much feeding in to the egos of kids who straight up do not deserve it because they haven't earned it.

None of that would be a problem, except that they don't feel like they have to put in the time, focus and work to become great.

Do you think this team took Wisconsin seriously? Or Pitt? Do you think they have the hunger or the attitude of a team like UCF?

The soft Miami culture is something that needs to change. And it's bigger than just the head coach. It's a city of Miami problem. People in this community need to stop stroking these kids ego's, and stop giving these kids credit for **** that happened before they were even born.

RESPECT NEEDS TO BE EARNED, NEVER GIVEN.

We can be great, and we can win national titles, but to do this we need to get back to the winning culture we had back in the day... back when we were hungry and wanted it. We saw flashes of it against Notre Dame and VT.

Just my 2 cents. I'm sure it will offend people, but it's something to think about.
 
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Look no further than recruits twitters to see the problem. All about getting that money and money bag emojis to them now
 
Just visiting Florida especially south Florida in what seems diff to me compared Texas, and few other states is the entitlement at an early age. You talk to young Camp players having an entourage expecting the same treatment makes me LMAO do I totally agree. S.Florida has tremendous talent but being a small area and not playing the bag game and being a private intuition to clear can cause a filter. CMR is experienced and has started to put his thumb on the program building the facilities, welcoming past players and reach talent at all coast will start the shift the Cane's back to promince.
 
I think you have a fair point and I think it's a culture that Richt is addressing.

We're recruiting, on the whole, a different breed of player. The vast majority of our recruits have handled the process like men - either they've been ambassadors like Dallas and Lingard, they've shut down their recruiting early like Donaldson, or they've not sulked that the offer has come late and signed up to the Hurricanes like Bandy and Thomas.

Look how we handled C.J. Henderson - he cried that he was a backup at a High School All-Star Game and Rumph called him out saying that's not how Hurricanes behave. Kid ran off to Florida the next day. They called out Allison for not taking his craft seriously enough. Kid ran off to West Virginia. Weak willed kids.

I genuinely believe we're assembling a roster of talented player who take their craft seriously. Whether we can survive the loss of our two starting Junior DTs next year is a worry, but we're heading in the right direction as a programme with players that will make us proud.
 
South Florida high school football is definitely softer than it used to be. I attend enough games per year to get a sense of that. I posted the same thing several years ago here and got ripped. Who cares? There's some type of aura here attached to the local kids. It's fine if you cherry pick a few and otherwise install them in a tough environment. But when you've got a roster full of those kids it's like a prancing parade with everyone wanting a running clock type of high school game...celebrations galore. Screen pass mentality.

Yes, the turnover chain is a perfect fit for that type of roster. Meanwhile Alabama players would be snarling and snapping that turnover chain in half using two fingers apiece.

South Florida defensive tackles suck. I can't say its getting worse because it's never any good.

With a mentality like this we need more astonishing players to win a national championship. That's the unfriendly bottom line. Look at that early 2000s set of players. Yet it equated to one national championship. Alabama yawns and wins more than that in any 3 year period.

Every year there are touts on this site of how many players we placed in the NFL, how many of our guys unexpectedly made a roster and are contributing. Big deal. It is not a 1-1 relationship with other premier programs. We need more elite players period. The Canes are so flash dependent that there's a glass jaw tendency, one that hasn't gone away in more than three decades. Blue collar teams have no chance to expose Alabama and hold them to next to nothing in a title setting. Yet it happened to great Canes teams repeatedly. Once those prancing touchdowns aren't flowing like a high school game we panic and have little to fall back on.
 
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That's why we need guys like Dallas, DJax, Chad, Bandy, Amari Carter, Shaq, Walton, not AQM, Henderson, or Jobe.
 
The generation is soft not just Miami kids. I think what separates great teams from average teams is coaching and finding the right kids that fit your program. Butch used Kevin Elko to help weed out those who were selfish and not team guys. Saban uses Elko as well.

When I was in college you never saw kids transferring at this rate. Coaches tell them they need more focus and they get triggered jumping to other schools. Again it isn’t just about 5 Star players but who also fits the system.
 
This is true to a extent. However let’s not kid ourselves that these SFla kids aren’t a different breed. Too often Dalvin cooks, teddy bridgewaters, Patrick Peterson’s, Amaris coopers, Sony Michels, Sammy Watkins, Mackenzee Alexanders, Calvin’s Ridleys, devonta Freeman’s and countless others get away and ball the fvck our at another program. You can’t convince me that ALL those other programs just had staffs that instilled a hard work ethic and determination in these kids. At the most they had staffs that were able to develop already ELITE talent that kids ALREADY possessed. There’s a reason why Georgia is paying stupid money for SFla kids like Bama been doing for years now. It’s cuz these kids are special
 
Awsi Dooger said:
South Florida high school football is definitely softer than it used to be. I attend enough games per year to get a sense of that. I posted the same thing several years ago here and got ripped. Who cares? There's some type of aura here attached to the local kids. It's fine if you cherry pick a few and otherwise install them in a tough environment. But when you've got a roster full of those kids it's like a prancing parade with everyone wanting a running clock type of high school game...celebrations galore. Screen pass mentality.

Yes, the turnover chain is a perfect fit for that type of roster. Meanwhile Alabama players would be snarling and snapping that turnover chain in half using two fingers apiece.

South Florida defensive tackles suck. I can't say its getting worse because it's never any good.

With a mentality like this we need more astonishing players to win a national championship. That's the unfriendly bottom line. Look at that early 2000s set of players. Yet it equated to one national championship. Alabama yawns and wins more than that in any 3 year period.

Every year there are touts on this site of how many players we placed in the NFL, how many of our guys unexpectedly made a roster and are contributing. Big deal. It is not a 1-1 relationship with other premier programs. We need more elite players period. The Canes are so flash dependent that there's a glass jaw tendency, one that hasn't gone away in more than three decades. Blue collar teams have no chance to expose Alabama and hold them to next to nothing in a title setting. Yet it happened to great Canes teams repeatedly. Once those prancing touchdowns aren't flowing like a high school game we panic and have little to fall back on.
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Good points. But all that lead too those five titles. I agree that well coached blue collar teams with some talent beat us if we were not focused because the players were getting too much attention and not enough disrespect. That is the reason we left another 4 or 5 titles on the field, including three by JJ. But that is our DNA. It is still what will give us more titles. Clemson just beat the crap out of us, but in part it was because they were tired of hearing about the Turnover Chain and did to us what we use to do to others. Pitt and WI are closer to what you are talking about, although against WI our kids almost won it anyway.

if we win again it will be with the dancing and stuff not without it. Sure a blue cola war team will still teach us a lesson here and there but in between, when we have the talent, the east tds will flow and we will pick up a couple more titles even though we lose some we should win. I am actually Edgar to see if Mark grabbing those refs is a sign of the Cane coming out in him. If so, make room for at least one more title and a ton of hate.
 
Look around the NFL and College Football and you'll see why South Florida kids are entitled. You can't win without them.

Go to 90% of college campuses across the Country no matter what level of competition and there will be a crew of Florida boys.
 
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Half of the offensive touchdowns in the College Football Playoff were scored by South Florida players. Seven out of 14.

Great theory, though.
 
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KATKER said:
Look around the NFL and College Football and you'll see why South Florida kids are entitled. You can't win without them.

Go to 90% of college campuses across the Country no matter what level of competition and there will be a crew of Florida boys.
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Wow have you ever been to TX and seen those guys or even Cali. Wake up and look at the rosters Texas is everywhere especially the big market paday programs. The Cane's will get back there but they got to add a few out of state talent along with the S.Floridans to toughen them up.
 
Kids have to have an internal fire, as stupid as that may sound. You look at a guy like Berrios who was determined to be great in everything he did. How many guys like that do we have on the team? There's glimpses of it in a few guys, but then you see a guy like Irvin and I can only shake my head.
 
DMoney said:
Half of the offensive touchdowns in the College Football Playoff were scored by South Florida players. Seven out of 14.

Great theory, though.
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Maybe that's the problem. None were for miami, what made miami special was having that eilte talent stay home.. if they are scoring for other teams then we miss out on special talents.. can we really replace guys like Sony, Ridley, etc?

Or are we relegated to celebrating Florida guys scoring for other teams or amount of NFL talent from down here?
 
skyman said:
Or are we relegated to celebrating Florida guys scoring for other teams or amount of NFL talent from down here?
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The problem isn't Miami players. They are the most successful group of players at the college and NFL level.

Blaming them for our failures is like blaming the hot girl when you can't get any *****. The problem is Miami. There's a reason why Golden and Coker are unemployed and why Shannon has a **** job.
 
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