Mcintosh hears from Draft Board

[252cane]

I knew that would be the NFL's advice. Unfortunately, UM players tend not to listen to sound advice when it comes to leaving early. I'm hoping RJ reverses that trend.

I'm hoping the trend was a trend due to the players wanting to get the **** away from Golden/Shannon and their incompetent staffs

Just happened last year with kaaya and yearby.

 

[jkaz1]

Good answer.

LOL @ b!tches on this thread getting their Vickies in a wad because kids are thinking about leaving early..."Like OMG!, I can't believe He's leaving early!!!"...LMAO!

Listen, this ain't 2011 where you're gonna have mass, premature defections.

As long as UM attracts the talent that they do, this is gonna happen every year we have underclassmen that are draft eligible...Richt's just gonna have to get used to it and learn to manage it.

This is Miami, not ******* I N G Duke.

 

[simplycanes]

Before anyone gets too optimistic, all this translates into is that he was told he isn't likely a first or second round pick. If his goal is to just be drafted and 3rd or 4th round will suffice he wasn't told that is off the table.

I am almost certain Walton, Kayaa, Yearby and a whole host of other Canes going back to Forston, Streeter, etc. were told no different and it didn't matter at all.

If we can keep 1 of the two DTs I consider it a huge win for next season.

I hope it works out for Walton, but everyone else on that list should have listened to what they were told.

Go Canes!

I wish all our guys success, even when their decision appears to be woefully stupid. I do fear for Walton however. He's coming off an injury and there really isn't a lot of film on him where he showed a lot of distinguishing elements.

Walton is getting drafted in the 3rd or 4th round.

Walton has shown plenty on film. The question is what's he going to run? 4.5 2nd day pick, 4.6 3rd day pick.

Plenty? That's a stretch. One great house run against FSU. A good game against NC State. Not a ton there.

 

[252cane]

I hope it works out for Walton, but everyone else on that list should have listened to what they were told.

Go Canes!

I wish all our guys success, even when their decision appears to be woefully stupid. I do fear for Walton however. He's coming off an injury and there really isn't a lot of film on him where he showed a lot of distinguishing elements.

Walton is getting drafted in the 3rd or 4th round.

Walton has shown plenty on film. The question is what's he going to run? 4.5 2nd day pick, 4.6 3rd day pick.

Plenty? That's a stretch. One great house run against FSU. A good game against NC State. Not a ton there.

He was the starter his sophmore year and played a lot as a freshmen. He played 31 games. You dont think that's enough?

 

[Tad Footeball]

Can you also remind me...Who is on the draft board?

The NFL Draft Advisory Board is a running joke within front offices and agents. It's a mix of scouting services and some front office personnel. People within the industry know the scouting services aren't very good, and the front office personnel treat it like college coaches treat their Top 25 ballots through the first month of the season. Additionally, some front office people are shady with their rankings based on how they want the draft to shake out with options.

Take the Advisory Board rankings with a grain of salt.

You should've put quotes around your post and attributed it to Drew Rosenhaus. Just add this to the end:

"I'm hearing from several teams that you'll go no later than the second round. Jusssst sign right here."

 

[simplycanes]

I wish all our guys success, even when their decision appears to be woefully stupid. I do fear for Walton however. He's coming off an injury and there really isn't a lot of film on him where he showed a lot of distinguishing elements.

Walton is getting drafted in the 3rd or 4th round.

Walton has shown plenty on film. The question is what's he going to run? 4.5 2nd day pick, 4.6 3rd day pick.

Plenty? That's a stretch. One great house run against FSU. A good game against NC State. Not a ton there.

He was the starter his sophmore year and played a lot as a freshmen. There is 20+ games of film on him. You dont think that's enough?

I love Walton, but no, I don't think he separated himself enough on film. Who do you think he translates to most in the NFL, what role? Gio Bernard type? That will be his challenge in moving into the 3rd round type position. What separates him from the rest of RB class on film? Size, speed, power, elusiveness, vision. blocking? This why "we" tend to overrate our guys in the draft. We have recruiting through practice reports of what our guys are capable of committed to memory. NFL has their game film. Being a RB in the league with his skillset (e.g. not an every down guy) is a tough proposition if you're a late(r) round pick. Teams don't have a ton invested in you, and you're in a crowded roster situation behind the one or 2 backs they clearly like better. So, no, while he has a lot to review on tape, I am concerned about where he goes in the draft. I agree that his STs prowess will help, if not save him on roster decision time however.

 

[58straight]

if Aaron Donald can come back for his senior year Norton and Mcintosh should too. I believe he had about 18 tackles for loss and 6 sack his junior year, he's the best D tackle in the league now.

 

[canefan]

Can you also remind me...Who is on the draft board?

The NFL Draft Advisory Board is a running joke within front offices and agents. It's a mix of scouting services and some front office personnel. People within the industry know the scouting services aren't very good, and the front office personnel treat it like college coaches treat their Top 25 ballots through the first month of the season. Additionally, some front office people are shady with their rankings based on how they want the draft to shake out with options.

Take the Advisory Board rankings with a grain of salt.

It has been mostly accurate. Majority of the time the guys they tell they wont be 1st or 2nd round picks usually dont. Everything is not something to bîtch about.

This. The advisory board has something like a 79% accuracy rate. If they tell you you're not a 1st or 2nd round talent, they're almost always right.

RJ can leave now, get drafted in the 4th or 5th round, hope to make a roster, and be easily dismissed if he doesn't pan out early. Or he can stay another year, improve draft stock, maybe actually make a lot of money up front and should he need a little development time, GMs are more likely to keep you around if you're an early pick. Guys drafted in the 5th-7th are easily axed. GM's look bad if they have to cut guys they pick in the earlier rounds. GM's want to justify their picks so they'll keep a 3rd rounder around a lot longer than a 5th rounder.

This is incorrect. Yes, 79% for round 1 or 2 seems like a good number, but a majority is based off of the obvious names who ask the advisory board, and doesn't include the guys who actually move way up from the rankings or those who just don't ask them. In reality the 79% is a number based off of a total of about 20-25 kids, when in reality there are 64 picks between the two rounds.

Trust me, RJ isn't a 4th or 5th round pick, as multiple teams (internally) have him as a 1st or 2nd round pick.

LOL no they don't. Are you RJ's agent?

 

[Billy D Williams]

He was advised to return to school, but he is going to think about it? SMH

I agree. The people who draft advised you to return to school, but you find it necessary to speak to people, though important, are not in a position to help your draft stock. He could better his draft stock by returning and increase his value by $500K or more potentially.

 

[Captain Uberpants]

If both come back

Djax-Norton-RJ-Joe Jack
DJ- Ford- Willis- Garvin

That’s a championship level 2 deep.



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[thinkkaz]

The NFL Draft Advisory Board is a running joke within front offices and agents. It's a mix of scouting services and some front office personnel. People within the industry know the scouting services aren't very good, and the front office personnel treat it like college coaches treat their Top 25 ballots through the first month of the season. Additionally, some front office people are shady with their rankings based on how they want the draft to shake out with options.

Take the Advisory Board rankings with a grain of salt.

It has been mostly accurate. Majority of the time the guys they tell they wont be 1st or 2nd round picks usually dont. Everything is not something to bîtch about.

This. The advisory board has something like a 79% accuracy rate. If they tell you you're not a 1st or 2nd round talent, they're almost always right.

RJ can leave now, get drafted in the 4th or 5th round, hope to make a roster, and be easily dismissed if he doesn't pan out early. Or he can stay another year, improve draft stock, maybe actually make a lot of money up front and should he need a little development time, GMs are more likely to keep you around if you're an early pick. Guys drafted in the 5th-7th are easily axed. GM's look bad if they have to cut guys they pick in the earlier rounds. GM's want to justify their picks so they'll keep a 3rd rounder around a lot longer than a 5th rounder.

This is incorrect. Yes, 79% for round 1 or 2 seems like a good number, but a majority is based off of the obvious names who ask the advisory board, and doesn't include the guys who actually move way up from the rankings or those who just don't ask them. In reality the 79% is a number based off of a total of about 20-25 kids, when in reality there are 64 picks between the two rounds.

Trust me, RJ isn't a 4th or 5th round pick, as multiple teams (internally) have him as a 1st or 2nd round pick.

And you know this how?

NFL teams keep a lot their draft intention super secret, especially on sleepers they don’t want anyone else to know they’re considering. Yet a guy on a message board knows the inner workings and strategies of NFL General Managers’ strategic draft plans? Of multiple teams? Sounds legit.

I use to work for an NFL team and still have friends who are in front offices.

 

[KrazyCane]

RJ wouldn't fall past the 2nd round regardless of what the "draft board" told him. You think after teams really sit down and breakdown players RJ won't be a high priority pick?? Oh nevermind NFL teams do get it wrong more times than not anyway.

 

[HighSeas]

RJ wouldn't fall past the 2nd round regardless of what the "draft board" told him. You think after teams really sit down and breakdown players RJ won't be a high priority pick?? Oh nevermind NFL teams do get it wrong more times than not anyway.

I agree. Disruptive penetrating interior linemen don't grow on trees and especially this year I don't see many that are draft-eligible. But Grady Jarrett slid to the 5th round to the shock of internet draft analysts and he profiles similarly as McIntosh.

 

[moshated305]

Only one that had any business leaving was Walton. RBs should always leave if they know they will be drafted. You don't have to be a first rounder to be successful at that position. Kareem Hunt and Alvin Kamara were both 3rd round guys last year.

 

[orange&green84]

RJ wouldn't fall past the 2nd round regardless of what the "draft board" told him. You think after teams really sit down and breakdown players RJ won't be a high priority pick?? Oh nevermind NFL teams do get it wrong more times than not anyway.

You apparently don't know how the NFL works.

 

[KrazyCane]

RJ wouldn't fall past the 2nd round regardless of what the "draft board" told him. You think after teams really sit down and breakdown players RJ won't be a high priority pick?? Oh nevermind NFL teams do get it wrong more times than not anyway.

You apparently don't know how the NFL works.

No u apparently lost your mind thinking u know more than me

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

Who do you think he translates to most in the NFL, what role? Gio Bernard type?

Knowshon Moreno.

Walton's the total package...can block, run, catch, & He brings value to STs.

 

[DTP]

I knew that would be the NFL's advice. Unfortunately, UM players tend not to listen to sound advice when it comes to leaving early. I'm hoping RJ reverses that trend.

I'm hoping the trend was a trend due to the players wanting to get the **** away from Golden/Shannon and their incompetent staffs

Just happened last year with kaaya and yearby.

Kaaya left because of the coaching change. He would have stayed for his senior year had Golden (and James Coley) been retained.

I have no explanation for Yearby besides maybe desperation.

 

[DTP]

Who do you think he translates to most in the NFL, what role? Gio Bernard type?

Knowshon Moreno.

Walton's the total package...can block, run, catch, & He brings value to STs.

Agreed. If you're not quite NFL starting talent, the best chance you have for a long NFL career is versatility. Walton does everything you want your RB2 to do. He's an excellent receiver, very solid pass blocker and he's a demon on coverage teams. Maybe he's not a 20 carry a game guy right now but few running backs are these days. Versatility is everything these days.

 

[Stylie]

Come on back Rj.