Off-Topic Mass killings

[Suhrthing]

The Catholic Church...one of the most conservative institutions on the planet is the only retort you need.

However, touching kids is bipartisan fare. Plenty of scum to go around.

Conservative in what respect? My wife's extended family is Catholic, mostly liberal. The Pope is not even conservative. The idea that religious = conservative this day and age is just dogma at this point.

 

[Bender]

Why is Christianity connected to child marriage? Whats going on here?

 

[Suhrthing]

Some people just don't love guns the way others might. It is okay. The guy that owned the racist civil war store in town died recently. You probably knew that though since you are right around the corner and all.

A gun behind a door is likely a close second to a dog as a deterrent against a burglar or home intruder.

 

[Suhrthing]

Why is Christianity connected to child marriage? Whats going on here?

Some believe pedophilia is an opportunity for religion - while in reality religion is an just opportunity for pedophiles.

 

[JD08]

Maybe it's time to charge people as accessories for ignoring obvious red flags. If you get in my car with a bag of dead cats, you'd better believe I'm telling someone about it.

New video shows Texas school shooter Salvador Ramos holding bag of dead cats

The deranged 18-year-old gunman is seen smiling in the undated footage while sitting in the passenger seat of a pal’s car.

nypost.com

 

[BoxingRobes]

Conservative in what respect? My wife's extended family is Catholic, mostly liberal. The Pope is not even conservative. The idea that religious = conservative this day and age is just dogma at this point.

There are more liberal Catholics today than in previous years (growing number of younger Catholics liberals) but still, here in the US Catholics are still conservative. I believe it's about 70% of Catholics identify as conservative or moderate.

Popes do not usually have a place on the American political spectrum and while he seems more open to modernity, he's been considered a traditionalist most of his life. His views on women, gender, abortion would likely slot him conservative if you had to, but he wouldn't be far right (supported universal health care for example).

Also...I agreed with your other comment that religion was an opportunity for pedophiles...but still...its an institution that has actively covered up widespread pedophilia and has long been complicite in it.

 

[JD08]

There are more liberal Catholics today than in previous years (growing number of younger Catholics liberals) but still, here in the US Catholics are still conservative. I believe it's about 70% of Catholics identify as conservative or moderate.

Popes do not usually have a place on the American political spectrum and while he seems more open to modernity, he's been considered a traditionalist most of his life. His views on women, gender, abortion would likely slot him conservative if you had to, but he wouldn't be far right (supported universal health care for example).

Also...I agreed with your other comment that religion was an opportunity for pedophiles...but still...its an institution that has actively covered up widespread pedophilia and has long been complicite in it.

But jokes about priests and pedophilia are commonplace and accepted. Try making the same joke about a teacher.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/135-teachers-charged-child-***-crimes-this-year-alone

 

[JD08]

Nobody died, so this is totally fine.

 

[Bender]

There are more liberal Catholics today than in previous years (growing number of younger Catholics liberals) but still, here in the US Catholics are still conservative. I believe it's about 70% of Catholics identify as conservative or moderate.

Popes do not usually have a place on the American political spectrum and while he seems more open to modernity, he's been considered a traditionalist most of his life. His views on women, gender, abortion would likely slot him conservative if you had to, but he wouldn't be far right (supported universal health care for example).

Also...I agreed with your other comment that religion was an opportunity for pedophiles...but still...its an institution that has actively covered up widespread pedophilia and has long been complicite in it.

Religion =\= church, lets get that clear.

 

[AUcane]

@AUcane I'm a little disgusted that you think "marrying kids is a conservative thing".

Bro I'm embarrassed for you. That's self isolating language. I hope you really don't think that.

Do you think pedophilia is a liberal thing?

 

[Bender]

 

[Suhrthing]

There are more liberal Catholics today than in previous years (growing number of younger Catholics liberals) but still, here in the US Catholics are still conservative. I believe it's about 70% of Catholics identify as conservative or moderate.

Popes do not usually have a place on the American political spectrum and while he seems more open to modernity, he's been considered a traditionalist most of his life. His views on women, gender, abortion would likely slot him conservative if you had to, but he wouldn't be far right (supported universal health care for example).

Also...I agreed with your other comment that religion was an opportunity for pedophiles...but still...its an institution that has actively covered up widespread pedophilia and has long been complicite in it.

Just did a quick search and found this from PEW research, 2014, about 1/3rd lean 'republican':

Regarding institutional pedophilia, I think the Catholic church is just one of any institutions in which its widespread and covers it up. Baptists just recently got caught doing the same thing. Politicians and the ruling elite as well... it's seems to be a perpetual cycle of those in power. I would not tie it to religion/politics - IMO any true religious person seeking salvation - or any non-religious, decent-human being for that matter - are 100% aghast at the thought of molesting children.

TBO I'm a little surprised the maudes have let these insinuations of pedophilia being tied to political affiliation fly... I've been clipped for far less IMO.

 

[RangerGranger]

Do you think pedophilia is a liberal thing?

Not at all! It’s indiscriminate!

And I think we agree as such, no?

 

[imurcane]

A gun behind a door is likely a close second to a dog as a deterrent against a burglar or home intruder.

They have dogs!

 

[Suhrthing]

Not at all! It’s indiscriminate!

And I think we agree as such, no?

He does not, he's already tipped his hand.

 

[Suhrthing]

They have dogs!

Suhrthing's Rules For Life #13: get both.

 

[Salt]

Conservative in what respect? My wife's extended family is Catholic, mostly liberal. The Pope is not even conservative. The idea that religious = conservative this day and age is just dogma at this point.

Pope Francis is a Jesuit and they tend to be very liberal in the areas of social activism and politics. They are not so much sticklers for doctrinal issues.

 

[JD08]

TBO I'm a little surprised the maudes have let these insinuations of pedophilia being tied to political affiliation fly... I've been clipped for far less IMO.

This was the exact problem with OT threads. Trying to paint all members of the opposite side with a broad brush. I've had to delete comments that aimed at party, but largely left liberal/conservative alone because not all Dems are liberal and not all Repubs are conservative. But when those start being used as synonyms, it's an issue.

One thread got locked because of it yesterday.

 

[Suhrthing]

Pope Francis is a Jesuit and they tend to be very liberal in the areas of social activism and politics. They are not so much sticklers for doctrinal issues.

In my limited knowledge of the Pope, he seems closer to a communist than a conservative.

 

[mirvin88]

Eh, pales in comparison to the sexual/child abuse that republicans have either been charged with or convicted of.

Republican Sexual Predators, Abusers, and Enablers Pt. 32

This is the 32nd installment in the list of Republican sexual predators, abusers, and enablers who contribute to rape culture. These are people who abused their power or defended the abuse of power. These are not folks caught in consensual scandals...

m.dailykos.com

There are 100s on here. Do with this what you will.

Don't make this into a party thing. There are many many many on both sides. Plus Epstein et al.