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Martell Waiver Timeframe

1mg of Epi said:
I agree with you. These kids are making a lot of people a lot of money. That being said, unrestricted free agency would definitely be transformative... and I don’t know if that would be good for the sport.
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The portal brings us closer to unrestricted free agency, your right it would be transformative for better AND worse. While we’re transforming CF, go back to the rescind question, why not a buyout of the contract, or scholarship for 1 yr. pros, corporations do all the time. Would effect very few players. I don’t favor this but just thinking out of the box.
 
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MIATL said:
Why do y’all keep saying the NCAA is ******** the student athlete by making them sit a season if they haven’t graduated?

Sitting out a season makes perfect sense. It makes the athlete really consider if leaving their situation is worth losing a year.

You want to play immediately, earn your degree and bounce.

But if you leave before your degree is earned, it better be a serious issue that is out of your control. Otherwise, no waiver.
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Think about this.

If an average university student transfers, he/she is immediately free to participate in student government, fraternity/sorority, campus activities, etc. Even if that person was on an academic scholarship at one school, and received an academic scholarship at the new school, everything would be fine.

Let's keep in mind that when athletes are transferring, it is not just that they are not "good enough" at the first school, it is often because there are changes on the coaching staff.

If you took a job, and a primary factor was that you got along with your boss and co-workers, and then your boss left and took a bunch of your co-workers, you might not want to remain with that company. It's not about whether YOU are good enough at your job.

The NCAA could fix this. They could create bright-line reasons and follow precedent, rather than making every case a "facts-and-circumstances" one-on-one appeal without being able to rely on precedent (yes, for all of the non-informed people who keep thinking that the NCAA follows "precedent", they do not).
 
Kendall Boy Cane said:
So it's a business from one side but not for the other? There's one goal for big time college football players and that's to get to the NFL. If you're not happy with your trajectory, you should have a chance to change it. But no, you're right, let's continue to profit off kids and holding them down to some mythical contract with a certain institution.

There can certainly be better ways to go about the process. Imagine being a 19 year old kid being frustrated but you can't do anything about it. Your only course of action is taking a severe hit to your long term prospects by sitting a year out.
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lmao profit off kids. these kids get a scholarship and networking they would never get at a univiersity. stop spreding the big lie. i guarentee you're a democrat.
 
I believe we still need a contingency plan. I would try to pursue Shane Buechele or maybe a top tier FCS guy trying to boost his draft stock.

If Tate gets cleared than 3-way battle between Jarren, Tate, and the other transfer.
 
Groz73Cane said:
The portal brings us closer to unrestricted free agency, your right it would be transformative for better AND worse. While we’re transforming CF, go back to the rescind question, why not a buyout of the contract, or scholarship for 1 yr. pros, corporations do all the time. Would effect very few players. I don’t favor this but just thinking out of the box.
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So a team would buy out the remaining scholarship for players not performing?

It there was a financial obligation or buy out wouid players still be unrestricted?

Let’s just get to brass tacks... pay these kids something.
 
SBERG said:
Only problem with that argument is he stayed the whole year following the scandal... If he was affected that much he would have left when when it all went down.... It's more than obvious the only reason he left is because Fields transferred in... Look his lawyers are gonna argue this that and everything else but I don't see him being cleared.... The one thing he had going for him was graduating early but that doesn't look realistic either...
But who knows maybe someone has ties to someone behind the scenes and it could go through..... Until it does I don't see him on the field this coming year...
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Money rules the world and especially in the courtroom. If he has a top notch lawyer, he will get cleared. He can argue that he thought things would get better at Ohio State after Zach Smith was fired but the emotional stress got to him as the year went on. There are so many ways to argue that in court.
 
Zbrod95 said:
I believe we still need a contingency plan. I would try to pursue Shane Buechele or maybe a top tier FCS guy trying to boost his draft stock.

If Tate gets cleared than 3-way battle between Jarren, Tate, and the other transfer.
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Contingency plan is Williams starts and steps up.
 
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Stop it, there is ZERO ***ing chance the NCAA ever makes a ruling in favor of Miami, pretend its already known and if by some miracle...you'll be happily surprised.
 
SBERG said:
Only problem with that argument is he stayed the whole year following the scandal... If he was affected that much he would have left when when it all went down.... It's more than obvious the only reason he left is because Fields transferred in... Look his lawyers are gonna argue this that and everything else but I don't see him being cleared.... The one thing he had going for him was graduating early but that doesn't look realistic either...
But who knows maybe someone has ties to someone behind the scenes and it could go through..... Until it does I don't see him on the field this coming year...
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I agree. In addition he posted on social media that the starting job in 2019 was his and Fields should look elsewhere. The head coach was his OC for the past 2 years so the "I'm transferring because of the new coach" really doesn't hold water. Kind of like a defensive player transferring from Miami and saying I want a waiver because my DC Manny Diaz is now the head coach.
 
BeastMode said:
I would think Martell can get one. He can point out that the coach who recruited him quit after a major domestic violence scandal and “health problems” he can say the programs new coach brought in his own offensive system and transfer QB. If I was him I would just keep hitting on the environment around a program who covered up domestic violence.
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That doesn't work when your head coach was your OC the previous year.
 
1mg of Epi said:
So a team would buy out the remaining scholarship for players not performing?

It there was a financial obligation or buy out wouid players still be unrestricted?

Let’s just get to brass tacks... pay these kids something.
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Actually the original issue was kids that We’re signed early then there was a coaching change, like us, and maybe wouldn’t have been signed by the new staff. Could you buyout not rescind. Maybe makes the separation more palatable to the public. Idk. Pay these kids? Yeah, being a college athlete is a full time job they need compensation other than for school. The whole amateur/Pro thing is bull****. A kid can spend summer playing A or AA baseball, but not in college, come Fall he’s playing FB all. A lot of gray area there. Compensate them and remove that. Do believe that if the NCAA took the stick out of their *** athletics would more resemble the real world.
 
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Considering the NCAA investigated us for two and a half years?

I'm guessing Tate's waiver will be decided around this time next year.
 
BeastMode said:
Money rules the world and especially in the courtroom. If he has a top notch lawyer, he will get cleared. He can argue that he thought things would get better at Ohio State after Zach Smith was fired but the emotional stress got to him as the year went on. There are so many ways to argue that in court.
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You can argue anything in court.... .... It's will the court buy it??? Being he stayed the whole year and left when another QB came in doesn't help his argument...
 
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