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Mark Richt. What did he really do for Miami

caneULM said:
I brought his name up to friends the other day and this question was asked of me. I was like well, I'll tell exactly what he did. He donated a $1M of his own coin to the new facility. He stepped down when he knew his time was up and didn't take a dime of what he was owed on his contract. But the thing he REALLY did was show what Miami could be with all the right pieces in place. Yes 2017 was full of lucky bounces but tell me what other year prior (other than maybe 2002-05) Miami was discussed as being a title contender? Yes he was stubborn, letting his son call plays but man come on, what coach isn't? The only coaches that love Miami as much as Richt is JJ & MC and MC is showing in real time what Miami was and what it should be. I believe CMR would have done close to the same had he come in much sooner.

When Miami raises #6, he needs to be on the field with the team.
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From what the local South Florida people have said on this board, it sounds like he finally got the football program and university to reconnect with the community and start the foundation. The seeds that you sow.

He had his faults but it was clear that he was fighting an uphill battle on TV and he was trying hard, total respect for that man.
 
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
Unpopular take and I’m sure I’ll get dragged: I think the level of reverence Mark Richt is paid is not commensurate with what he achieved here.

To be clear, this is not disrespect. I didn’t say he deserves no reverence. I simply think a LOT of our fans and alumni act as if he brought us championships when in reality he brought us one overachieving season and a few other mediocre seasons. Yes he added (temporary) credibility. Yes he was incredibly generous. Yes he stepped down when he needed to. He is a humble and kind man by all accounts. Those are all admirable acts and traits and deserve to be recognized. At the same time, those things have nothing to do with on field achievement.
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Not dragging you cuz i get what you mean from your vantage point of what the standards are for this program and what was and wasn’t considered successful beforehand…that being said,

Don’t see how 2017 was overachieving considering it should’ve been an 11 win season (Arkansas state) if Hurricanes Irma didn’t shuffle the schedule. We were lucky as in 2017 as we were in 2024. Good teams are always lucky and find ways to win more close games than they lose. 2016 was a solid 9 win season for a first time HC. We hadn’t won 9+ games in back to back seasons since 2004 and 2005.

The Pitt loss was a stain on the season but we were very good. The other two losses were against Clemson and Wisconsin who went a combined 25-3. We finally won our division outright. We also snapped a downright miserable 7 game winning streak by FSU; we literally won once throughout the whole Obama presidency. Had two ranked wins, VT, including finally beating ND after three straight recent losses. We hadn’t beaten a team that finished ranked since Maryland in 2010.

Paradise Camp brought a lot of the alumni closer to their program after the disastrous Golden era and summertime Golden camps. Richt also left Diaz a pretty solid, by no means 6-7 worthy, roster in a similar way as Golden left Richt some talent to work with. Diaz ****ed it all up though, similar to Shannon, including the shortcomings of his own recruiting during the Richt era. Diaz killed so much of our collective spirit that the fanbase was relieved Notre Dame took our place in the ACC championship game in 2020.

A lot of current fans were made during the turnover chain Richt era. Us younger fans were starving.

Starving Denzel Washington GIF
 
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Jonnyblaze said:
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
Unpopular take and I’m sure I’ll get dragged: I think the level of reverence Mark Richt is paid is not commensurate with what he achieved here.

To be clear, this is not disrespect. I didn’t say he deserves no reverence. I simply think a LOT of our fans and alumni act as if he brought us championships when in reality he brought us one overachieving season and a few other mediocre seasons. Yes he added (temporary) credibility. Yes he was incredibly generous. Yes he stepped down when he needed to. He is a humble and kind man by all accounts. Those are all admirable acts and traits and deserve to be recognized. At the same time, those things have nothing to do with on field achievement.
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I think you’re missing the point. Part of the problem nowadays is the whole you win a championship or you suck mentality. Miami hadn’t done anything significant on the football field for 15 years until 2017. We all know that run was kind of flaky, but it happened. It was a glimmer of hope, and some fantastic moments we hadn’t seen in a long time.

It takes a lot to get a program back on track, and a lot of that happens off the field, and stuff that happens off the field can absolutely affect what happens on it.
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I think you completely missed my point. I don’t subscribe to the natty or you suck mantra. I said aside from one over achieving season, Richt was mediocre. Could he have done more had his health not gone south? Maybe. His last season was 7-6. Not his first. His last. Is that “getting a program back on track”? If Mario went 7-6 in year three, this board would’ve lit him on fire….the same board that is turning up the glow on Mark Richt’s halo right now. And that’s the reason I commented originally. I don’t believe his results on the field warrant him having a halo. His actions off the field as a person might, but on the field? No
 
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
Unpopular take and I’m sure I’ll get dragged: I think the level of reverence Mark Richt is paid is not commensurate with what he achieved here.

To be clear, this is not disrespect. I didn’t say he deserves no reverence. I simply think a LOT of our fans and alumni act as if he brought us championships when in reality he brought us one overachieving season and a few other mediocre seasons. Yes he added (temporary) credibility. Yes he was incredibly generous. Yes he stepped down when he needed to. He is a humble and kind man by all accounts. Those are all admirable acts and traits and deserve to be recognized. At the same time, those things have nothing to do with on field achievement.
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he won the first bowl game and first 10 win season in 15 years and the only until Mario got here.

there were on the field achievements. now, go back to cincinnati.
 
EudocimusAlbus said:
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
Unpopular take and I’m sure I’ll get dragged: I think the level of reverence Mark Richt is paid is not commensurate with what he achieved here.

To be clear, this is not disrespect. I didn’t say he deserves no reverence. I simply think a LOT of our fans and alumni act as if he brought us championships when in reality he brought us one overachieving season and a few other mediocre seasons. Yes he added (temporary) credibility. Yes he was incredibly generous. Yes he stepped down when he needed to. He is a humble and kind man by all accounts. Those are all admirable acts and traits and deserve to be recognized. At the same time, those things have nothing to do with on field achievement.
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Not a drag but on so many levels beyond the field did Richt make impacts. Dude was a fixture in community events, not solely in presence, but as you mention an admirable dude, who people could trust - coaches, parents, kids. That all takes alot of time especially after what had occurred at the school for a decade earlier. Winning is the ultimate score card, but character matters, look what occurred after he left with Manny and what is currently underway. Richt is stand up dude.
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100% in agreement. That was what I was trying to convey in my comment. 0 disrespect to him as a person.
 
cookies said:
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
Unpopular take and I’m sure I’ll get dragged: I think the level of reverence Mark Richt is paid is not commensurate with what he achieved here.

To be clear, this is not disrespect. I didn’t say he deserves no reverence. I simply think a LOT of our fans and alumni act as if he brought us championships when in reality he brought us one overachieving season and a few other mediocre seasons. Yes he added (temporary) credibility. Yes he was incredibly generous. Yes he stepped down when he needed to. He is a humble and kind man by all accounts. Those are all admirable acts and traits and deserve to be recognized. At the same time, those things have nothing to do with on field achievement.
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Not dragging you cuz i get what you mean from your vantage point of what the standards are for this program and what was and wasn’t considered successful beforehand…that being said,

Don’t see how 2017 was overachieving considering it should’ve been an 11 win season (Arkansas state) if Hurricanes Irma didn’t shuffle the schedule. We were lucky as in 2017 as we were in 2024. Good teams are always lucky and find ways to win more close games than they lose. 2016 was a solid 9 win season for a first time HC. We hadn’t won 9+ games in back to back seasons since 2004 and 2005.

The Pitt loss was a stain on the season but we were very good. The other two losses were against Clemson and Wisconsin who went a combined 25-3. We finally won our division outright. We also snapped a downright miserable 7 game winning streak by FSU; we literally won once throughout the whole Obama presidency. Had two ranked wins, VT, including finally beating ND after three straight recent losses. We hadn’t beaten a team that finished ranked since Maryland in 2010.

Paradise Camp brought a lot of the alumni closer to their program after the disastrous Golden era and summertime Golden camps. Richt also left Diaz a pretty solid, by no means 6-7 worthy, roster in a similar way as Golden left Richt some talent to work with. Diaz ****ed it all up though, similar to Shannon, including the shortcomings of his own recruiting during the Richt era. Diaz killed so much of our collective spirit that the fanbase was relieved Notre Dame took our place in the ACC championship game in 2020.

A lot of current fans were made during the turnover chain Richt era. Us younger fans were starving.

Starving Denzel Washington GIF
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When juxtaposed against the back drop of the previous ten years, of course he will look good. He had a .667 winning percentage here. That’s not bad. It’s also not great. When you pan out and look at the last 40 years or so, it’s mediocre, especially by Miami standards. I get what you’re saying about the perspective of the younger fans and I don’t want to come off as though I’m stomping on that concept. I simply think that Richt is revered at a level for his coaching that I don’t think is warranted based upon what he achieved on the field here. You don’t see it that way and that’s fine. Your reasoning makes sense. So does mine. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
rsa coral gables said:
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
Unpopular take and I’m sure I’ll get dragged: I think the level of reverence Mark Richt is paid is not commensurate with what he achieved here.

To be clear, this is not disrespect. I didn’t say he deserves no reverence. I simply think a LOT of our fans and alumni act as if he brought us championships when in reality he brought us one overachieving season and a few other mediocre seasons. Yes he added (temporary) credibility. Yes he was incredibly generous. Yes he stepped down when he needed to. He is a humble and kind man by all accounts. Those are all admirable acts and traits and deserve to be recognized. At the same time, those things have nothing to do with on field achievement.
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he won the first bowl game and first 10 win season in 15 years and the only until Mario got here.

there were on the field achievements. now, go back to cincinnati.
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He was 7-6 in his last season here. Not his first; his last. Let’s not leave that out of the bio.

I’ll never go back to Cincinnati. It’s impossible. I’ve never lived there!!
 
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
When juxtaposed against the back drop of the previous ten years, of course he will look good. He had a .667 winning percentage here. That’s not bad. It’s also not great. When you pan out and look at the last 40 years or so, it’s mediocre, especially by Miami standards. I get what you’re saying about the perspective of the younger fans and I don’t want to come off as though I’m stomping on that concept. I simply think that Richt is revered at a level for his coaching that I don’t think is warranted based upon what he achieved on the field here. You don’t see it that way and that’s fine. Your reasoning makes sense. So does mine. 🤷🏼‍♂️
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