Mark Richt coaching tree

[CaneTheGaytors]

So people want me banned bc I pointed out that the best coach he ever developed was Brian Van Gorder......

They want you banned because they are blind followers and slurpers. They can't handle legitimate questions being asked of our new HC.

Making the same mistakes that they did with our 3 previous hires, but I don't think they will ever learn.

Giving the man a chance is fair. But, not wanting to question anything about him is pure lunacy.

 

[Redmen7805]

I'd love to discuss all the elite coaches that came up under Richt in his 15 years at UGA.

Since I am unable to find any, I figure the board can use this post to inform me.....

Here is what I found.

Charlie Weiss
41-49 career record as a HC
16-21 in his last three years at Notre Dame
6-22 at Kansas
In between HC jobs he was the OC at Florida where they ranked 102nd in offense


Romeo Crennel
28-55 career record as a head coach

AL Groh
68-60 as the head coach at UVa and NYJ
He also thought Al Golden and Mike London everything he knows about defense

Josh McDaniels
11 -17 career record as HC

Eric Mangini
33-47 as a head coach

Jim Schwartz
29-51 as a head coach

Kirk Ferentz
139-107 as a head coach
Has only had two good seasons in the last decade

That is a poor record of developing HC and we should really question the hire of Richt.

Not sure he is what we need given he played at UM, compiled a 145 - 51 record and finished in the top 25 11 out of 15 seasons.


He also did this at Georgia were anyone can win. Who cares that he was basically tied for the best winning percentage in GA history (coaches that coached more than 8 games).

Oh wait! I just realized that I copied Bill Belichick's coaching tree.

Glad we didn't hire him.

He must be a terrible coach based on how his assistants have done as head coaches.

 

[DiegoCane]

What did I just read? Comparing Richt to Belichick. Comparing guys who got HC opportunities, most in the NFL to assistants that never went anywhere.

Convienently you left off Nick Saban who was Belichicks DC for the Browns, left there to be HC at MSU.


Again, no one is trashing Richt or saying he was a bad hire. His track record with assistants is average at best and he has some important hires to make. Everyone hopes he knocks it out of the park, some just don't blindly trust him bc of said track record.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Your opinion really doesn't impress me.

But 8-5 8-5 8-5 does impress you. Maybe you shouldn't publicly admit that.

Put more in the NFL than Urban, or Saban in the same number of classes.

Got cheated by computers from playing a NC in 2000, Butch's team won a NC in 2001, and Butch's team got cheated out of a NC in 2002.

That's what impresses me.

I noticed that you stopped with the excuse machine after January 2000. Does Butch have anything else on his college resume that you can evaluate?

I note that Richt has been a HC for . . . how long?

And he has . . . how many NC's?

Them Bulldogs going to win one next year with Richt's players? And play for the NC again the year after that?

 

[UMFarArcher]

I love how Butch couldn't win a title with his own team, but "Butch's team" won in 2001.

Yep. With a substitute teacher.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

I note that Richt has been a HC for . . . how long?

And he has . . . how many NC's?

Them Bulldogs going to win one next year with Richt's players? And play for the NC again the year after that?

So Richt has the same number of titles as Davis. I guess the tie-breaker would be that Richt's team has actually played in a conference championship game. Or maybe that Richt has been able to sustain employment.

What channel can we see Butch on during this bowl season?

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

I love how Butch couldn't win a title with his own team, but "Butch's team" won in 2001.

Yep. With a substitute teacher.

So they won with someone other than Butch. And the variable is.........

 

[Astcloud11]

I'd love to discuss all the elite coaches that came up under Richt in his 15 years at UGA.

Since I am unable to find any, I figure the board can use this post to inform me.....

Here is what I found.

Charlie Weiss
41-49 career record as a HC
16-21 in his last three years at Notre Dame
6-22 at Kansas
In between HC jobs he was the OC at Florida where they ranked 102nd in offense


Romeo Crennel
28-55 career record as a head coach

AL Groh
68-60 as the head coach at UVa and NYJ
He also thought Al Golden and Mike London everything he knows about defense

Josh McDaniels
11 -17 career record as HC

Eric Mangini
33-47 as a head coach

Jim Schwartz
29-51 as a head coach

Kirk Ferentz
139-107 as a head coach
Has only had two good seasons in the last decade

That is a poor record of developing HC and we should really question the hire of Richt.

Not sure he is what we need given he played at UM, compiled a 145 - 51 record and finished in the top 25 11 out of 15 seasons.


He also did this at Georgia were anyone can win. Who cares that he was basically tied for the best winning percentage in GA history (coaches that coached more than 8 games).

Oh wait! I just realized that I copied Bill Belichick's coaching tree.

Glad we didn't hire him.

He must be a terrible coach based on how his assistants have done as head coaches.

The point is across your face and out the door.

1. As the poster above me mentioned, you left out Nick Saban.
2. You left out people who are now general manager assistants or even general managers in the NFL.
3. Those are 7 head coaches you just listed, meaning that they all have been hired somewhere else to fill a bigger role after serving under Bill. The point was that in 15 years of coaching, he has little to no branches (people that have left him to fill a bigger role). Bobo has been brought up and he finally got that bigger role THIS YEAR.

 

[UMFarArcher]

I note that Richt has been a HC for . . . how long?

And he has . . . how many NC's?

Them Bulldogs going to win one next year with Richt's players? And play for the NC again the year after that?

So Richt has the same number of titles as Davis. I guess the tie-breaker would be that Richt's team has actually played in a conference championship game. Or maybe that Richt has been able to sustain employment.

What channel can we see Butch on during this bowl season?

Actually, Butch has a couple Super Bowl rings as D-Coordinator.

And it's gotta be painful for you to ignore the FACT that Butch assembled the greatest college football team in history - and UM screwed themselves and Butch over a piddly buyout.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Actually, Butch has a couple Super Bowl rings as D-Coordinator.

And it's gotta be painful for you to ignore the FACT that Butch assembled the greatest college football team in history - and UM screwed themselves and Butch over a piddly buyout.

Richt has a couple of NC rings as well. Too bad we're not talking about an NFL gig, or you might have actually shocked us with a valid point.

Nothing about Butch is painful for me, except maybe the desperate clinging onto 2001 that we see here. The best part for you is that you can't be proven wrong, because no one will hire Butch. We won't get to see another UNC debacle. While he's sitting in a studio in a suit and tie you can continue to whine that "Butch woulda won a title".

 

[rickstyles]

Not sure why the bashing of Richt and staff choices is occurring. However, I do believe the original poster makes a valid point but not that is leads to a lack of success either.

Richt's resume, I believe, is very similar to that of one Jimmy Johnson before he came to Miami. Jimmy lacked the coaching to win the big game against OU while at OSU but then came here and won it all.

What really makes me excited about the Richt hire is not necessarily Richt, but rather that the institution is actually starting to fund the football program as it should be funded. If they did it with Richt they will do it with the next guy and so on. Very positive sign for us.

 

[Miami82]

What did I just read? Comparing Richt to Belichick. Comparing guys who got HC opportunities, most in the NFL to assistants that never went anywhere.

Convienently you left off Nick Saban who was Belichicks DC for the Browns, left there to be HC at MSU.


Again, no one is trashing Richt or saying he was a bad hire. His track record with assistants is average at best and he has some important hires to make. Everyone hopes he knocks it out of the park, some just don't blindly trust him bc of said track record.

^^^^ This

 

[Miami82]

Not sure why the bashing of Richt and staff choices is occurring. However, I do believe the original poster makes a valid point but not that is leads to a lack of success either.

Richt's resume, I believe, is very similar to that of one Jimmy Johnson before he came to Miami. Jimmy lacked the coaching to win the big game against OU while at OSU but then came here and won it all.

What really makes me excited about the Richt hire is not necessarily Richt, but rather that the institution is actually starting to fund the football program as it should be funded. If they did it with Richt they will do it with the next guy and so on. Very positive sign for us.

Huge Plus. I think most can see where Shalala was the issue previously.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Actually, Butch has a couple Super Bowl rings as D-Coordinator.

And it's gotta be painful for you to ignore the FACT that Butch assembled the greatest college football team in history - and UM screwed themselves and Butch over a piddly buyout.

Richt has a couple of NC rings as well. Too bad we're not talking about an NFL gig, or you might have actually shocked us with a valid point.

Nothing about Butch is painful for me, except maybe the desperate clinging onto 2001 that we see here. The best part for you is that you can't be proven wrong, because no one will hire Butch. We won't get to see another UNC debacle. While he's sitting in a studio in a suit and tie you can continue to whine that "Butch woulda won a title".

Yo.

Jenius. Richt does NOT have a couple Superbowl rings as a coach NOR a Coordinator - like Butch does.

We'll weigh this out as time goes on.

I know what Butch put together in five years under extreme sanctions, and I know what Butch could have done again at UM - and I know what Mark hasn't done in fifteen years as HC at a big school with resources out the sphincter, and without crippling sanctions.

You a muzzie?

 

[Astcloud11]

Not sure why the bashing of Richt and staff choices is occurring. However, I do believe the original poster makes a valid point but not that is leads to a lack of success either.

Richt's resume, I believe, is very similar to that of one Jimmy Johnson before he came to Miami. Jimmy lacked the coaching to win the big game against OU while at OSU but then came here and won it all.

What really makes me excited about the Richt hire is not necessarily Richt, but rather that the institution is actually starting to fund the football program as it should be funded. If they did it with Richt they will do it with the next guy and so on. Very positive sign for us.

Not trying to **** on Richt..but Jimmy was at OSU for 5 years, not 15.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Yo.

Jenius. Richt does NOT have a couple Superbowl rings as a coach NOR a Coordinator - like Butch does.

We'll weigh this out as time goes on.

I know what Butch put together in five years under extreme sanctions, and I know what Butch could have done again at UM - and I know what Mark hasn't done in fifteen years as HC at a big school with resources out the sphincter, and without crippling sanctions.

You a muzzie?

You basically repeated what I've been saying. We won't get the chance to see Butch fail again because no one will hire him. So you're stuck with telling us what would have happened.

Why couldn't Butch win at UNC?

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Not sure why the bashing of Richt and staff choices is occurring. However, I do believe the original poster makes a valid point but not that is leads to a lack of success either.

Richt's resume, I believe, is very similar to that of one Jimmy Johnson before he came to Miami. Jimmy lacked the coaching to win the big game against OU while at OSU but then came here and won it all.

What really makes me excited about the Richt hire is not necessarily Richt, but rather that the institution is actually starting to fund the football program as it should be funded. If they did it with Richt they will do it with the next guy and so on. Very positive sign for us.

Not trying to **** on Richt..but Jimmy was at OSU for 5 years, not 15.

And Jimmy also didn't win 10 games two-thirds of the time at his previous school.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

Yo.

Jenius. Richt does NOT have a couple Superbowl rings as a coach NOR a Coordinator - like Butch does.

We'll weigh this out as time goes on.

I know what Butch put together in five years under extreme sanctions, and I know what Butch could have done again at UM - and I know what Mark hasn't done in fifteen years as HC at a big school with resources out the sphincter, and without crippling sanctions.

You a muzzie?

You basically repeated what I've been saying. We won't get the chance to see Butch fail again because no one will hire him. So you're stuck with telling us what would have happened.

Why couldn't Butch win at UNC?

Because he had players suspended in 2010!! Duh.

 

[Redmen7805]

What did I just read? Comparing Richt to Belichick. Comparing guys who got HC opportunities, most in the NFL to assistants that never went anywhere.

Convienently you left off Nick Saban who was Belichicks DC for the Browns, left there to be HC at MSU.

Again, no one is trashing Richt or saying he was a bad hire. His track record with assistants is average at best and he has some important hires to make. Everyone hopes he knocks it out of the park, some just don't blindly trust him bc of said track record.

You hire a head coach to win football games and Richt knows how to do that very well.

The man has won 74% of his games with average at best assistants (your words) and consistently finished in the top 25 while playing in the most difficult conference in college football.

His career winning percentage should increase as the ACC is not the SEC and he is going back to calling plays.

Some of you act like we have a first time head coach (Coker and Randy) or complete bozo (Golden) leading our team.

I could care less if he hires Mickey Mouse to be the OC and DBC to be the DC as long as we are winning 80+% of our games.


This is not about blind trust; it is about focusing on what matters (winning football games not developing the best coaching staff on paper) and using common sense (Richt knows how to win football games).

 

[UMFarArcher]

Yo.

Jenius. Richt does NOT have a couple Superbowl rings as a coach NOR a Coordinator - like Butch does.

We'll weigh this out as time goes on.

I know what Butch put together in five years under extreme sanctions, and I know what Butch could have done again at UM - and I know what Mark hasn't done in fifteen years as HC at a big school with resources out the sphincter, and without crippling sanctions.

You a muzzie?

You basically repeated what I've been saying. We won't get the chance to see Butch fail again because no one will hire him. So you're stuck with telling us what would have happened.

Why couldn't Butch win at UNC?[/QUOTE]

Why couldn't Mark win it at UGA? He had a big school, big budget, and fifteen years?