Mark Richt coaching tree

[407cane]

Not that I wanted to BBB, but here is a Davis tree:

Pagano (NFL HC)
Chud (NFL OC and former HC)
Todd Bowles (NFL HC)
Greg Schiano (Former NFL HC, OSU DC)
Bruce Arians (NFL HC)
Everett Withers (JMU HC)

vs. Brian Van Gorder.........it's extremely worrisome when you hear he's bringing a bunch of his former players to be coaches when he has a horrendous track record of hiring and developing coaches.

I was with you till you put Arians in the Butch "Tree" Come'on

They conveniently left out Coker and Shannon too

 

[FullyERicht]

Valid concern but it's not some smoking gun as to Richt's ability to win big here. Plenty of examples have been brought up already.

Agreed, but I think this entire conversation on his past staff and what he is doing here could be the smoking gun as to why he hasn't become elite.

As this and many other boards have shown, you don't question the new hire until its apparent to everyone he is a failure... smh

Yea it isn't exactly a mystery why a guy who recruits that well and has a clearly elite pedigree and coaching acumen ****s the bed every year when you look at the corches he hired.

 

[FullyERicht]

Not that I wanted to BBB, but here is a Davis tree:

Pagano (NFL HC)
Chud (NFL OC and former HC)
Todd Bowles (NFL HC)
Greg Schiano (Former NFL HC, OSU DC)
Bruce Arians (NFL HC)
Everett Withers (JMU HC)

vs. Brian Van Gorder.........it's extremely worrisome when you hear he's bringing a bunch of his former players to be coaches when he has a horrendous track record of hiring and developing coaches.

I was with you till you put Arians in the Butch "Tree" Come'on

They conveniently left out Coker and Shannon too

And I also left out Willie Martinez and Brian Schottenheimer. See how this works? You don't list the corches.

 

[JerseyCanes]

Not that I wanted to BBB, but here is a Davis tree:

Pagano (NFL HC)
Chud (NFL OC and former HC)
Todd Bowles (NFL HC)
Greg Schiano (Former NFL HC, OSU DC)
Bruce Arians (NFL HC)
Everett Withers (JMU HC)

vs. Brian Van Gorder.........it's extremely worrisome when you hear he's bringing a bunch of his former players to be coaches when he has a horrendous track record of hiring and developing coaches.

I was with you till you put Arians in the Butch "Tree" Come'on

They conveniently left out Coker and Shannon too

And I also left out Willie Martinez and Brian Schottenheimer. See how this works? You don't list the corches.

With all do Respect.. Schotty had **** qbs and only a yr.... But point taken .. I would want him coordinating my nephews jr Pee wee team

JC

 

[DiegoCane]

Valid concern but it's not some smoking gun as to Richt's ability to win big here. Plenty of examples have been brought up already.

Agreed, but I think this entire conversation on his past staff and what he is doing here could be the smoking gun as to why he hasn't become elite.

As this and many other boards have shown, you don't question the new hire until its apparent to everyone he is a failure... smh

This.

I don't understand people getting upset about this subject, its a valid question and actually good discussion (which most of the board is not).

Hiring assistant coaches is extremely important. Richt hasn't been great at it, could explain why UGA was never able to get over the hump despite great recruiting classes. This stuff matters if you want to win NCs.

It also doesn't mean I hate Richt.

 

[CanesTalent Scout]

Valid concern but it's not some smoking gun as to Richt's ability to win big here. Plenty of examples have been brought up already.

Agreed, but I think this entire conversation on his past staff and what he is doing here could be the smoking gun as to why he hasn't become elite.

As this and many other boards have shown, you don't question the new hire until its apparent to everyone he is a failure... smh

Yea it isn't exactly a mystery why a guy who recruits that well and has a clearly elite pedigree and coaching acumen ****s the bed every year when you look at the corches he hired.

145-51, the SEC, coached 16 All-Americans during his coaching tenure - remarkable achievements when "you look at the corches he hired." This thread demonstrates unequivocally just how dumb many "Hurricane fans" are.

 

[FullyERicht]

Valid concern but it's not some smoking gun as to Richt's ability to win big here. Plenty of examples have been brought up already.

Agreed, but I think this entire conversation on his past staff and what he is doing here could be the smoking gun as to why he hasn't become elite.

As this and many other boards have shown, you don't question the new hire until its apparent to everyone he is a failure... smh

This.

I don't understand people getting upset about this subject, its a valid question and actually good discussion (which most of the board is not).

Hiring assistant coaches is extremely important. Richt hasn't been great at it, could explain why UGA was never able to get over the hump despite great recruiting classes. This stuff matters if you want to win NCs.

It also doesn't mean I hate Richt.

This post and the one by Miami82 are way too judgemental, and wouldn't be allowed in a safe-zone. I think you are microaggressing against Coach Richt by stating the fact that he hasnt made great hires and has lost big games.

 

[CanesAreAble]

Not terribly worried about this. Richt had a great record in the SEC and put a ton of guys in the NFL, so he and his staff must've been doing something right. Plus Brian VanGorder, Neil Callaway, and Mike Bobo all got head coaching jobs. How many coaches have "elite" coaching trees anyway? When you win, people poach from your staff, but that doesn't mean the coaches are good. For example, Steve Addazio's offenses have stunk, and he might be a year away from getting ****-canned at BC.

 

[DiegoCane]

coaching trees are the dumbest things ever. Just because Belichick is a great coach doesn't mean his proteges like Charlie Weiss, Crennel, or Mangini will be also. Likewise, for all the Butch fans...nobody wants to hire his proteges for head coach like Coker, Shannon, Schiano etc.

Hiring quality coaches (which would be your coaching tree) is probably the most important job the head coach has.

 

[FullyERicht]

Valid concern but it's not some smoking gun as to Richt's ability to win big here. Plenty of examples have been brought up already.

Agreed, but I think this entire conversation on his past staff and what he is doing here could be the smoking gun as to why he hasn't become elite.

As this and many other boards have shown, you don't question the new hire until its apparent to everyone he is a failure... smh

Yea it isn't exactly a mystery why a guy who recruits that well and has a clearly elite pedigree and coaching acumen ****s the bed every year when you look at the corches he hired.

145-51, the SEC, coached 16 All-Americans during his coaching tenure - remarkable achievements when "you look at the corches he hired." This thread demonstrates unequivocally just how dumb many "Hurricane fans" are.

How many SEC titles? How many National championships? Top 5 finishes? The guy is a very good coach who loses big games and makes very questionable hiring decisions. Is it unfair to say what the guy is? What is so hurtful about being honest about our new coach?

 

[DiegoCane]

Not terribly worried about this. Richt had a great record in the SEC and put a ton of guys in the NFL, so he and his staff must've been doing something right. Plus Brian VanGorder, Neil Callaway, and Mike Bobo all got head coaching jobs. How many coaches have "elite" coaching trees anyway? When you win, people poach from your staff, but that doesn't mean the coaches are good. For example, Steve Addazio's offenses have stunk, and he might be a year away from getting ****-canned at BC.

VanGorder was the HC at Georgia Southern 1 year, Callaway was fired at UAB, jury still out on Bobo.

You say that people poach from winning staffs yet no one was poaching UGA coaches. Isn't that at all concerning? Perhaps they get over the hump, win a few more SEC titles if Richt had hired great assistants.

Its a wait and see since we don't know who will be on the staff, I hope he makes great hires. Just because we are commenting on a legit concern about Richt doesn't mean we hate the guy.

 

[FullyERicht]

Not terribly worried about this. Richt had a great record in the SEC and put a ton of guys in the NFL, so he and his staff must've been doing something right. Plus Brian VanGorder, Neil Callaway, and Mike Bobo all got head coaching jobs. How many coaches have "elite" coaching trees anyway? When you win, people poach from your staff, but that doesn't mean the coaches are good. For example, Steve Addazio's offenses have stunk, and he might be a year away from getting ****-canned at BC.

VanGorder was the HC at Georgia Southern 1 year, Callaway was fired at UAB, jury still out on Bobo.

You say that people poach from winning staffs yet no one was poaching UGA coaches. Isn't that at all concerning? Perhaps they get over the hump, win a few more SEC titles if Richt had hired great assistants.

Its a wait and see since we don't know who will be on the staff, I hope he makes great hires. Just because we are commenting on a legit concern about Richt doesn't mean we hate the guy.

Everything is black and white with these folks. There is no nuance.

I like Richt. He's clearly a very good coach. But here's a secret: very good isn't enough for me. I don't want to be what UGA was. At all.

I want to win titles. Anything less, and the coach can GTFOH. I think Richt can win, but he will need a great staff to do so. I'm skeptical of hiring a bunch of your own former players and don't qualify that as hiring a great staff, the kind of staff he needs to actually win something of significance.

 

[UknowWhat]

I'd love to discuss all the elite coaches that came up under Richt in his 15 years at UGA.

Since I am unable to find any, I figure the board can use this post to inform me.....

He's had some decent coaches under him including Neil Calloway, who was his first OC and is now coaching
the OL at Western Kentucky.
Brian VanGorder is a pretty good coach, currently the DC at NDame.
Scott Lakatos was a highly-regarded DB coach at Rutgers and UConn before he took the UGA gig.
He left there for "personal reasons" and is now at Monmouth.
Not sure what happened there.
Kirk Olivadotti worked for him and is now with the Skins.
He lost another OLine coach, Stacey Searles, to LSU, and he later moved to Texas and
coached at VT the last 2-3 years.
No one will ever confuse his coaching tree with that of Larry Kehres, Bill Snyder or Hayden Fry, but
lots of great coaches have also had disciples that have not fared well when they have moved
on.

Kirk Olivadotti - Has been with the Skins for two seasons. Between his first and second season he was the only coach to survive in the defense complete make-over.

 

[FullyERicht]

I'd love to discuss all the elite coaches that came up under Richt in his 15 years at UGA.

Since I am unable to find any, I figure the board can use this post to inform me.....

He's had some decent coaches under him including Neil Calloway, who was his first OC and is now coaching
the OL at Western Kentucky.
Brian VanGorder is a pretty good coach, currently the DC at NDame.
Scott Lakatos was a highly-regarded DB coach at Rutgers and UConn before he took the UGA gig.
He left there for "personal reasons" and is now at Monmouth.
Not sure what happened there.
Kirk Olivadotti worked for him and is now with the Skins.
He lost another OLine coach, Stacey Searles, to LSU, and he later moved to Texas and
coached at VT the last 2-3 years.
No one will ever confuse his coaching tree with that of Larry Kehres, Bill Snyder or Hayden Fry, but
lots of great coaches have also had disciples that have not fared well when they have moved
on.

Kirk Olivadotti - Has been with the Skins for two seasons. Between his first and second season he was the only coach to survive in the defense complete make-over.

Did u see him in Miami. Guy sucks.

 

[CanesAreAble]

VanGorder was the HC at Georgia Southern 1 year, Callaway was fired at UAB, jury still out on Bobo.

You say that people poach from winning staffs yet no one was poaching UGA coaches. Isn't that at all concerning? Perhaps they get over the hump, win a few more SEC titles if Richt had hired great assistants.

Its a wait and see since we don't know who will be on the staff, I hope he makes great hires. Just because we are commenting on a legit concern about Richt doesn't mean we hate the guy.

VanGorder was also a DC in the NFL for four years, and Neil Callaway was head coach at UAB for five years. Muschamp got fired, so is that a black mark on Saban's résumé?

I haven't followed the career paths of other Georgia assistants, so I have no idea what they've done. I'm not overly concerned by this. I'll be a little concerned if Richt hires some dog**** DC.

 

[MedleyCane]

I'd love to discuss all the elite coaches that came up under Richt in his 15 years at UGA.

Since I am unable to find any, I figure the board can use this post to inform me.....

He's had some decent coaches under him including Neil Calloway, who was his first OC and is now coaching
the OL at Western Kentucky.
Brian VanGorder is a pretty good coach, currently the DC at NDame.
Scott Lakatos was a highly-regarded DB coach at Rutgers and UConn before he took the UGA gig.
He left there for "personal reasons" and is now at Monmouth.
Not sure what happened there.
Kirk Olivadotti worked for him and is now with the Skins.
He lost another OLine coach, Stacey Searles, to LSU, and he later moved to Texas and
coached at VT the last 2-3 years.
No one will ever confuse his coaching tree with that of Larry Kehres, Bill Snyder or Hayden Fry, but
lots of great coaches have also had disciples that have not fared well when they have moved
on.

Kirk Olivadotti - Has been with the Skins for two seasons. Between his first and second season he was the only coach to survive in the defense complete make-over.

Did u see him in Miami. Guy sucks.

I think you have him confused with his dad, Tom.

 

[FullyERicht]

I'd love to discuss all the elite coaches that came up under Richt in his 15 years at UGA.

Since I am unable to find any, I figure the board can use this post to inform me.....

He's had some decent coaches under him including Neil Calloway, who was his first OC and is now coaching
the OL at Western Kentucky.
Brian VanGorder is a pretty good coach, currently the DC at NDame.
Scott Lakatos was a highly-regarded DB coach at Rutgers and UConn before he took the UGA gig.
He left there for "personal reasons" and is now at Monmouth.
Not sure what happened there.
Kirk Olivadotti worked for him and is now with the Skins.
He lost another OLine coach, Stacey Searles, to LSU, and he later moved to Texas and
coached at VT the last 2-3 years.
No one will ever confuse his coaching tree with that of Larry Kehres, Bill Snyder or Hayden Fry, but
lots of great coaches have also had disciples that have not fared well when they have moved
on.

Kirk Olivadotti - Has been with the Skins for two seasons. Between his first and second season he was the only coach to survive in the defense complete make-over.

Did u see him in Miami. Guy sucks.

I think you have him confused with his dad, Tom.

Ahhh ok I stand corrected.

 

[CanesAreAble]

I think Richt can win, but he will need a great staff to do so. I'm skeptical of hiring a bunch of your own former players and don't qualify that as hiring a great staff, the kind of staff he needs to actually win something of significance.

By all accounts Lilly and BMac are good coaches. Don't know much about Thomas Brown, but RB Coach is a spot where you put a young recruiter. We'll have to see what Hartley's role is.

The staff isn't complete yet. In fact the big pieces of the staff haven't been filled.

 

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[252cane]

I'd love to discuss all the elite coaches that came up under Richt in his 15 years at UGA.

Since I am unable to find any, I figure the board can use this post to inform me.....

There are plenty of other teams out there you can be a fan of. Go whine and complain about those teams lil *****.