Mark is the wrong coach

[caneinpsl]

are you going to use those critical thinking skills you were talking about? or are you just going to keep pointing out the misleading 7-6 bs.

What was different about his years at UNC from the other coaches they had??? They weren't under probation. In fact they were cheating. It should have been easier for him.

Do you even watch college football or do you just google stats on the internet? i already explained up and down this thread about his time at UNC im not gonna keep repeating myself feel free to read the posts.

Anybody who is even a casual fan of college football knows what the deal is with Butch and UNC. Just a few internet nerds looking up stats who dont remember when he was actually at UNC (or maybe were too young) and keep saying he was a failure bc they are looking at his record while he was there.

cmon man. yes i rather have butch than richt but that doesnt mean i dont think richt is a good coach. you dont have to be an extremist and go around exaggerating and using misleading numbers to make a point. you think butch sucks? fine thats your opinion. but just know that it sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about and the stats you are using are misleading. im pretty sure you either werent paying attention to CFB when butch was at UNC or are too young to remember. If thats the case dont be talking about something you have no clue about.

I never said Butch sucked. Not once. I simply highlighted how Richt was a significant upgrade over Butch. He's won many more games, in a much tougher conference, at a school that isn't in the top three in terms of resources or history in that conference. I would have actually been happy had we hired Butch as well. I'm ecstatic about Richt. You'll see soon enough. Butch did OK at UNC. Not well. With the talent he had there he should have had better records his last two years there. Were YOU watching??? UNC was better under Mack Brown than they were under Butch. I completely understand that Butch has some mitigating circumstances, but not so much for his time at UNC. His time HERE was hindered by probation, and it took him time to get the program back off the ground. Time most people didn't want to give him. When people were flying fire Butch banners, I was one of the fans that wanted him retained. And I hated to see him go to the Browns when he did. Who knows what happens if he stays. AT the time I was hoping we had finally found a long term answer. But today we have that. We should get at least a decade of winning out of Richt. People cry like he won't be able to beat FSU, but that's hogwash. In three of AL Golden's losses to FSU we were within 5 points. I think we can expect Mark Richt to significantly improve our performance over what Al accomplished.

If u think butch did just "ok not well" at fkin unc idk wut to tell u. U seem to think highly of unc. They were a perennial doormat in football. Then u try to make it look like georgia lacks resources. Stop it man. Then again ur the same person who said they dominated the acc for years lmao wrong sport buddy i think u might be talking about basketball

And funny how im living in the past but then u bring up mack brown at unc lmao that was 20plus fkin years ago

Another thing, you say Butch shoulda won with all the talent he had....uhhhh who do you think recruited all that talent to fkin UNC? u think they were talented when he got there? lmao u obviously werent paying attention to CFB at the time and are going of what you hear and stats and records.

You keep telling me he didn't have any probation while he was there..uhhh do you not know about all of the suspensions and bs surrounding the program the last year. Just stop man, you have no clue what you are talking about. If you werent a fan at the time or just didnt pay attention, fine. But stop making yourself look stupid arguing with me about something you dont know.

Nobody said you were living in the past. Just that you are delusional if you think Butch is in the same league as Richt. I also didn't say UGA lacked resources. Just that they aren't on the same level as LSU, UF, or Bama. But UNC is towards the top of the ACC when it comes to resources as well. It's not an impossible pace to win lilke you try to make it sound. Bunting and Torbush sucked there, but they were also crappy coaches. Crappy coaches struggle even at places like Bama and UM. The other four coaches UNC has had since the late 70's have all been successful there. You are more wrong about UNC being a doormat program than my statement that they were dominant.

 

[Deez Nuts]

What was different about his years at UNC from the other coaches they had??? They weren't under probation. In fact they were cheating. It should have been easier for him.

Do you even watch college football or do you just google stats on the internet? i already explained up and down this thread about his time at UNC im not gonna keep repeating myself feel free to read the posts.

Anybody who is even a casual fan of college football knows what the deal is with Butch and UNC. Just a few internet nerds looking up stats who dont remember when he was actually at UNC (or maybe were too young) and keep saying he was a failure bc they are looking at his record while he was there.

cmon man. yes i rather have butch than richt but that doesnt mean i dont think richt is a good coach. you dont have to be an extremist and go around exaggerating and using misleading numbers to make a point. you think butch sucks? fine thats your opinion. but just know that it sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about and the stats you are using are misleading. im pretty sure you either werent paying attention to CFB when butch was at UNC or are too young to remember. If thats the case dont be talking about something you have no clue about.

I never said Butch sucked. Not once. I simply highlighted how Richt was a significant upgrade over Butch. He's won many more games, in a much tougher conference, at a school that isn't in the top three in terms of resources or history in that conference. I would have actually been happy had we hired Butch as well. I'm ecstatic about Richt. You'll see soon enough. Butch did OK at UNC. Not well. With the talent he had there he should have had better records his last two years there. Were YOU watching??? UNC was better under Mack Brown than they were under Butch. I completely understand that Butch has some mitigating circumstances, but not so much for his time at UNC. His time HERE was hindered by probation, and it took him time to get the program back off the ground. Time most people didn't want to give him. When people were flying fire Butch banners, I was one of the fans that wanted him retained. And I hated to see him go to the Browns when he did. Who knows what happens if he stays. AT the time I was hoping we had finally found a long term answer. But today we have that. We should get at least a decade of winning out of Richt. People cry like he won't be able to beat FSU, but that's hogwash. In three of AL Golden's losses to FSU we were within 5 points. I think we can expect Mark Richt to significantly improve our performance over what Al accomplished.

If u think butch did just "ok not well" at fkin unc idk wut to tell u. U seem to think highly of unc. They were a perennial doormat in football. Then u try to make it look like georgia lacks resources. Stop it man. Then again ur the same person who said they dominated the acc for years lmao wrong sport buddy i think u might be talking about basketball

And funny how im living in the past but then u bring up mack brown at unc lmao that was 20plus fkin years ago

Another thing, you say Butch shoulda won with all the talent he had....uhhhh who do you think recruited all that talent to fkin UNC? u think they were talented when he got there? lmao u obviously werent paying attention to CFB at the time and are going of what you hear and stats and records.

You keep telling me he didn't have any probation while he was there..uhhh do you not know about all of the suspensions and bs surrounding the program the last year. Just stop man, you have no clue what you are talking about. If you werent a fan at the time or just didnt pay attention, fine. But stop making yourself look stupid arguing with me about something you dont know.

Nobody said you were living in the past. Just that you are delusional if you think Butch is in the same league as Richt. I also didn't say UGA lacked resources. Just that they aren't on the same level as LSU, UF, or Bama. But UNC is towards the top of the ACC when it comes to resources as well. It's not an impossible pace to win lilke you try to make it sound. Bunting and Torbush sucked there, but they were also crappy coaches. Crappy coaches struggle even at places like Bama and UM. The other four coaches UNC has had since the late 70's have all been successful there. You are more wrong about UNC being a doormat program than my statement that they were dominant.

Im delusional to think Butch is in the same league as Richt? lmao what has Richt accomplished that Butch hasnt? Butch's best season was better than Richt's best. He got closer to a NC and his team went on to win one and be arguably the greatest CFB ever after he left. But Butch is not even in his league?? gtfoh

i cant keep having a discussion with you if your gonna keep saying how succesful UNC has been in football. For real, stop it man where the fk are you getting this from? UNC is a basketball school always has been, never been known for football. They sucked *** when Butch got there. Just bc they had a couple of good seasons 20 years ago doesnt mean they are an ACC powerhouse in football lmao gtfoh. So where the fk are you getting this sht from? Srsly I hope your just trolling.

Georgia is not at the bottom of the SEC in resources and UNC is not at the top of the ACC. your lying and even if they were, the bottom of the SEC has more resources than the top of the ACC....so I have no idea what point you are trying to make. only thing you are doing is making yourself look stupid

 

[BucCANEers]

Name a better available coach than Richt.

And dont you dare say Butch.

The coach who got Miami its last title which could have been 3 in 2000 and 2002. That same coach has 2 super bowl rings with Dallas.

Larry Coker? Don't think he was with the Cowboys.... But idk might have to look it up lol

 

[Kcdawg34]

To the people knocking Richr. He has as many championships as Butch.

Correct. However, Butch's best season is light years ahead of Richt's best season. He got way closer than Richt ever has.

That's just not true. Richt went 13-1(finished 3rd) in 2002 but didn't make the championship game due to Ohio State and Miami (ironic) going undefeated. He also went 12-2 in 2007 (finished 2nd in AP). How is Butch 's 11-1 season that much better than those two finishes?

Seriously, how?

Seriously? Butch shoulda been in Nc game instead of fsu who we beat. We woulda waxed oklahoma so we were arguably the best team in the country. The next year they proved it. But ur saying Richt season was better even tho there were 2 undefeated teams ahead of them one being us with butchs team lmao u sed it yourself uga finished 3rd butch finished 2nd so tell me again how 3rd is better than 2nd.

Butch finished 11-1 and ranked second at the end of his best year. Richt finished 13-1 and finished third one year and 11-2 and finished second another (the year that LSU - another two loss team - won the MNC). I wasn't a math major, but I'm pretty sure those finished aren't demonstrably different.

 

[52CANES]

Mark underperformance at GA is well known. Now that he is the coach at Miami. Once again this administration has felled its fan base. All the talking heads and reporters are building this as a great hire. And three to four years. We will be right back here again in mediocrity. We were suppose to get excellence not just good enough.

Please tell me how many titles all the other candidates combined have......ill wait.....
Which one has a higher win %.....ill wait......
Which one has more wins......ill wait....
Which one coached in a tougher conference.....ill wait...
Which one would another school hire over Richt.....ill wait...


Tired of these idiotic posts.

 

[caneinpsl]

Do you even watch college football or do you just google stats on the internet? i already explained up and down this thread about his time at UNC im not gonna keep repeating myself feel free to read the posts.

Anybody who is even a casual fan of college football knows what the deal is with Butch and UNC. Just a few internet nerds looking up stats who dont remember when he was actually at UNC (or maybe were too young) and keep saying he was a failure bc they are looking at his record while he was there.

cmon man. yes i rather have butch than richt but that doesnt mean i dont think richt is a good coach. you dont have to be an extremist and go around exaggerating and using misleading numbers to make a point. you think butch sucks? fine thats your opinion. but just know that it sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about and the stats you are using are misleading. im pretty sure you either werent paying attention to CFB when butch was at UNC or are too young to remember. If thats the case dont be talking about something you have no clue about.

I never said Butch sucked. Not once. I simply highlighted how Richt was a significant upgrade over Butch. He's won many more games, in a much tougher conference, at a school that isn't in the top three in terms of resources or history in that conference. I would have actually been happy had we hired Butch as well. I'm ecstatic about Richt. You'll see soon enough. Butch did OK at UNC. Not well. With the talent he had there he should have had better records his last two years there. Were YOU watching??? UNC was better under Mack Brown than they were under Butch. I completely understand that Butch has some mitigating circumstances, but not so much for his time at UNC. His time HERE was hindered by probation, and it took him time to get the program back off the ground. Time most people didn't want to give him. When people were flying fire Butch banners, I was one of the fans that wanted him retained. And I hated to see him go to the Browns when he did. Who knows what happens if he stays. AT the time I was hoping we had finally found a long term answer. But today we have that. We should get at least a decade of winning out of Richt. People cry like he won't be able to beat FSU, but that's hogwash. In three of AL Golden's losses to FSU we were within 5 points. I think we can expect Mark Richt to significantly improve our performance over what Al accomplished.

If u think butch did just "ok not well" at fkin unc idk wut to tell u. U seem to think highly of unc. They were a perennial doormat in football. Then u try to make it look like georgia lacks resources. Stop it man. Then again ur the same person who said they dominated the acc for years lmao wrong sport buddy i think u might be talking about basketball

And funny how im living in the past but then u bring up mack brown at unc lmao that was 20plus fkin years ago

Another thing, you say Butch shoulda won with all the talent he had....uhhhh who do you think recruited all that talent to fkin UNC? u think they were talented when he got there? lmao u obviously werent paying attention to CFB at the time and are going of what you hear and stats and records.

You keep telling me he didn't have any probation while he was there..uhhh do you not know about all of the suspensions and bs surrounding the program the last year. Just stop man, you have no clue what you are talking about. If you werent a fan at the time or just didnt pay attention, fine. But stop making yourself look stupid arguing with me about something you dont know.

Nobody said you were living in the past. Just that you are delusional if you think Butch is in the same league as Richt. I also didn't say UGA lacked resources. Just that they aren't on the same level as LSU, UF, or Bama. But UNC is towards the top of the ACC when it comes to resources as well. It's not an impossible pace to win lilke you try to make it sound. Bunting and Torbush sucked there, but they were also crappy coaches. Crappy coaches struggle even at places like Bama and UM. The other four coaches UNC has had since the late 70's have all been successful there. You are more wrong about UNC being a doormat program than my statement that they were dominant.

Im delusional to think Butch is in the same league as Richt? lmao what has Richt accomplished that Butch hasnt? Butch's best season was better than Richt's best. He got closer to a NC and his team went on to win one and be arguably the greatest CFB ever after he left. But Butch is not even in his league?? gtfoh

i cant keep having a discussion with you if your gonna keep saying how succesful UNC has been in football. For real, stop it man where the fk are you getting this from? UNC is a basketball school always has been, never been known for football. They sucked *** when Butch got there. Just bc they had a couple of good seasons 20 years ago doesnt mean they are an ACC powerhouse in football lmao gtfoh. So where the fk are you getting this sht from? Srsly I hope your just trolling.

Georgia is not at the bottom of the SEC in resources and UNC is not at the top of the ACC. your lying and even if they were, the bottom of the SEC has more resources than the top of the ACC....so I have no idea what point you are trying to make. only thing you are doing is making yourself look stupid

You can't even read. You keep stating what I have said wrong over and over and over again. Peace out.

 

[Deez Nuts]

To the people knocking Richr. He has as many championships as Butch.

Correct. However, Butch's best season is light years ahead of Richt's best season. He got way closer than Richt ever has.

That's just not true. Richt went 13-1(finished 3rd) in 2002 but didn't make the championship game due to Ohio State and Miami (ironic) going undefeated. He also went 12-2 in 2007 (finished 2nd in AP). How is Butch 's 11-1 season that much better than those two finishes?

Seriously, how?

Seriously? Butch shoulda been in Nc game instead of fsu who we beat. We woulda waxed oklahoma so we were arguably the best team in the country. The next year they proved it. But ur saying Richt season was better even tho there were 2 undefeated teams ahead of them one being us with butchs team lmao u sed it yourself uga finished 3rd butch finished 2nd so tell me again how 3rd is better than 2nd.

Butch finished 11-1 and ranked second at the end of his best year. Richt finished 13-1 and finished third one year and 11-2 and finished second another (the year that LSU - another two loss team - won the MNC). I wasn't a math major, but I'm pretty sure those finished aren't demonstrably different.

My dude, its not that hard to comprehend. Butch lost one game and shoulda been in the NC game. He beat FSU who was in the NC game.
Most people agree that UM team woulda spanked Oklahoma. Next year they proved it, having the benefit of hindsight we know that was arguably the greatest football team of all time.

How the **** does any of Richt's 2 best seasons compare to that? His best finish he was ranked third and didnt play in the NC game and rightfully so, because there were 2 undefeated teams ahead. One of them being Butch's team who shoulda won it all the year before

Ok maybe not light years ahead, but clearly and without a doubt Butch's best season was better than Richt's best season. And its not that close, one shoulda been the NC champ and that same team went on to be the greatest ever in CFB and the other had a good season but finished third rightfully so behind 2 undefeated teams. I dont see how that is up for debate.

 

[Gatorhater]

Name a better available coach than Richt.

And dont you dare say Butch.

Paul Davis. Anyway, Mark is it now and we will never be what we were, so let's go Canes.

 

[52CANES]

Correct. However, Butch's best season is light years ahead of Richt's best season. He got way closer than Richt ever has.

That's just not true. Richt went 13-1(finished 3rd) in 2002 but didn't make the championship game due to Ohio State and Miami (ironic) going undefeated. He also went 12-2 in 2007 (finished 2nd in AP). How is Butch 's 11-1 season that much better than those two finishes?

Seriously, how?

Seriously? Butch shoulda been in Nc game instead of fsu who we beat. We woulda waxed oklahoma so we were arguably the best team in the country. The next year they proved it. But ur saying Richt season was better even tho there were 2 undefeated teams ahead of them one being us with butchs team lmao u sed it yourself uga finished 3rd butch finished 2nd so tell me again how 3rd is better than 2nd.

Butch finished 11-1 and ranked second at the end of his best year. Richt finished 13-1 and finished third one year and 11-2 and finished second another (the year that LSU - another two loss team - won the MNC). I wasn't a math major, but I'm pretty sure those finished aren't demonstrably different.

My dude, its not that hard to comprehend. Butch lost one game and shoulda been in the NC game. He beat FSU who was in the NC game.
Most people agree that UM team woulda spanked Oklahoma. Next year they proved it, having the benefit of hindsight we know that was arguably the greatest football team of all time.

How the **** does any of Richt's 2 best seasons compare to that? His best finish he was ranked third and didnt play in the NC game and rightfully so, because there were 2 undefeated teams ahead. One of them being Butch's team who shoulda won it all the year before

Ok maybe not light years ahead, but clearly and without a doubt Butch's best season was better than Richt's best season. And its not that close, one shoulda been the NC champ and that same team went on to be the greatest ever in CFB and the other had a good season but finished third rightfully so behind 2 undefeated teams. I dont see how that is up for debate.

Good, butch had 1 year slightly better than richt. Maybe even 4. Then richt had 11 years better. Reports are Butch wasnt even 2nd choice that corch shiano was.

 

[ItsMeD]

Our fanbase gets dumber by the day. I like butch, but richt is a great hire and is a great coach. The canes are light-years ahead of where they were just a few weeks ago.

 

[Deez Nuts]

I never said Butch sucked. Not once. I simply highlighted how Richt was a significant upgrade over Butch. He's won many more games, in a much tougher conference, at a school that isn't in the top three in terms of resources or history in that conference. I would have actually been happy had we hired Butch as well. I'm ecstatic about Richt. You'll see soon enough. Butch did OK at UNC. Not well. With the talent he had there he should have had better records his last two years there. Were YOU watching??? UNC was better under Mack Brown than they were under Butch. I completely understand that Butch has some mitigating circumstances, but not so much for his time at UNC. His time HERE was hindered by probation, and it took him time to get the program back off the ground. Time most people didn't want to give him. When people were flying fire Butch banners, I was one of the fans that wanted him retained. And I hated to see him go to the Browns when he did. Who knows what happens if he stays. AT the time I was hoping we had finally found a long term answer. But today we have that. We should get at least a decade of winning out of Richt. People cry like he won't be able to beat FSU, but that's hogwash. In three of AL Golden's losses to FSU we were within 5 points. I think we can expect Mark Richt to significantly improve our performance over what Al accomplished.

If u think butch did just "ok not well" at fkin unc idk wut to tell u. U seem to think highly of unc. They were a perennial doormat in football. Then u try to make it look like georgia lacks resources. Stop it man. Then again ur the same person who said they dominated the acc for years lmao wrong sport buddy i think u might be talking about basketball

And funny how im living in the past but then u bring up mack brown at unc lmao that was 20plus fkin years ago

Another thing, you say Butch shoulda won with all the talent he had....uhhhh who do you think recruited all that talent to fkin UNC? u think they were talented when he got there? lmao u obviously werent paying attention to CFB at the time and are going of what you hear and stats and records.

You keep telling me he didn't have any probation while he was there..uhhh do you not know about all of the suspensions and bs surrounding the program the last year. Just stop man, you have no clue what you are talking about. If you werent a fan at the time or just didnt pay attention, fine. But stop making yourself look stupid arguing with me about something you dont know.

Nobody said you were living in the past. Just that you are delusional if you think Butch is in the same league as Richt. I also didn't say UGA lacked resources. Just that they aren't on the same level as LSU, UF, or Bama. But UNC is towards the top of the ACC when it comes to resources as well. It's not an impossible pace to win lilke you try to make it sound. Bunting and Torbush sucked there, but they were also crappy coaches. Crappy coaches struggle even at places like Bama and UM. The other four coaches UNC has had since the late 70's have all been successful there. You are more wrong about UNC being a doormat program than my statement that they were dominant.

Im delusional to think Butch is in the same league as Richt? lmao what has Richt accomplished that Butch hasnt? Butch's best season was better than Richt's best. He got closer to a NC and his team went on to win one and be arguably the greatest CFB ever after he left. But Butch is not even in his league?? gtfoh

i cant keep having a discussion with you if your gonna keep saying how succesful UNC has been in football. For real, stop it man where the fk are you getting this from? UNC is a basketball school always has been, never been known for football. They sucked *** when Butch got there. Just bc they had a couple of good seasons 20 years ago doesnt mean they are an ACC powerhouse in football lmao gtfoh. So where the fk are you getting this sht from? Srsly I hope your just trolling.

Georgia is not at the bottom of the SEC in resources and UNC is not at the top of the ACC. your lying and even if they were, the bottom of the SEC has more resources than the top of the ACC....so I have no idea what point you are trying to make. only thing you are doing is making yourself look stupid

You can't even read. You keep stating what I have said wrong over and over and over again. Peace out.

Really? What does the bolded say? the are not with lsu, bama, florida so in other words, they are at the bottom with miss st, vandy, kentucky etc.

and UNC at the top of the ACC? hahahahah you dummy. no im imagining stuff you didnt just say that in the bolded.

gtfoh im stating exactly what you said. dont get mad at me, you are the one that typed it. you are also the same person that typed "UNC dominated the ACC for years" lmao. Did I read that wrong too? Or do I have to go back and quote the post again?

 

[Deez Nuts]

That's just not true. Richt went 13-1(finished 3rd) in 2002 but didn't make the championship game due to Ohio State and Miami (ironic) going undefeated. He also went 12-2 in 2007 (finished 2nd in AP). How is Butch 's 11-1 season that much better than those two finishes?

Seriously, how?

Seriously? Butch shoulda been in Nc game instead of fsu who we beat. We woulda waxed oklahoma so we were arguably the best team in the country. The next year they proved it. But ur saying Richt season was better even tho there were 2 undefeated teams ahead of them one being us with butchs team lmao u sed it yourself uga finished 3rd butch finished 2nd so tell me again how 3rd is better than 2nd.

Butch finished 11-1 and ranked second at the end of his best year. Richt finished 13-1 and finished third one year and 11-2 and finished second another (the year that LSU - another two loss team - won the MNC). I wasn't a math major, but I'm pretty sure those finished aren't demonstrably different.

My dude, its not that hard to comprehend. Butch lost one game and shoulda been in the NC game. He beat FSU who was in the NC game.
Most people agree that UM team woulda spanked Oklahoma. Next year they proved it, having the benefit of hindsight we know that was arguably the greatest football team of all time.

How the **** does any of Richt's 2 best seasons compare to that? His best finish he was ranked third and didnt play in the NC game and rightfully so, because there were 2 undefeated teams ahead. One of them being Butch's team who shoulda won it all the year before

Ok maybe not light years ahead, but clearly and without a doubt Butch's best season was better than Richt's best season. And its not that close, one shoulda been the NC champ and that same team went on to be the greatest ever in CFB and the other had a good season but finished third rightfully so behind 2 undefeated teams. I dont see how that is up for debate.

Good, butch had 1 year slightly better than richt. Maybe even 4. Then richt had 11 years better. Reports are Butch wasnt even 2nd choice that corch shiano was.

Great congratulations! I said that Butch got closer to a Championship than Richt ever did. His best year was better than Richts best. You said thats not true. That is the discussion. Not sure what Richts 11 years has to do with that...none of those 11 were closer to a championship than Butch got.

 

[52CANES]

Seriously? Butch shoulda been in Nc game instead of fsu who we beat. We woulda waxed oklahoma so we were arguably the best team in the country. The next year they proved it. But ur saying Richt season was better even tho there were 2 undefeated teams ahead of them one being us with butchs team lmao u sed it yourself uga finished 3rd butch finished 2nd so tell me again how 3rd is better than 2nd.

Butch finished 11-1 and ranked second at the end of his best year. Richt finished 13-1 and finished third one year and 11-2 and finished second another (the year that LSU - another two loss team - won the MNC). I wasn't a math major, but I'm pretty sure those finished aren't demonstrably different.

My dude, its not that hard to comprehend. Butch lost one game and shoulda been in the NC game. He beat FSU who was in the NC game.
Most people agree that UM team woulda spanked Oklahoma. Next year they proved it, having the benefit of hindsight we know that was arguably the greatest football team of all time.

How the **** does any of Richt's 2 best seasons compare to that? His best finish he was ranked third and didnt play in the NC game and rightfully so, because there were 2 undefeated teams ahead. One of them being Butch's team who shoulda won it all the year before

Ok maybe not light years ahead, but clearly and without a doubt Butch's best season was better than Richt's best season. And its not that close, one shoulda been the NC champ and that same team went on to be the greatest ever in CFB and the other had a good season but finished third rightfully so behind 2 undefeated teams. I dont see how that is up for debate.

Good, butch had 1 year slightly better than richt. Maybe even 4. Then richt had 11 years better. Reports are Butch wasnt even 2nd choice that corch shiano was.

Great congratulations! I said that Butch got closer to a Championship than Richt ever did. His best year was better than Richts best. You said thats not true. That is the discussion. Not sure what Richts 11 years has to do with that...none of those 11 were closer to a championship than Butch got.

Im not the other person you were talking to

 

[Deez Nuts]

Butch finished 11-1 and ranked second at the end of his best year. Richt finished 13-1 and finished third one year and 11-2 and finished second another (the year that LSU - another two loss team - won the MNC). I wasn't a math major, but I'm pretty sure those finished aren't demonstrably different.

My dude, its not that hard to comprehend. Butch lost one game and shoulda been in the NC game. He beat FSU who was in the NC game.
Most people agree that UM team woulda spanked Oklahoma. Next year they proved it, having the benefit of hindsight we know that was arguably the greatest football team of all time.

How the **** does any of Richt's 2 best seasons compare to that? His best finish he was ranked third and didnt play in the NC game and rightfully so, because there were 2 undefeated teams ahead. One of them being Butch's team who shoulda won it all the year before

Ok maybe not light years ahead, but clearly and without a doubt Butch's best season was better than Richt's best season. And its not that close, one shoulda been the NC champ and that same team went on to be the greatest ever in CFB and the other had a good season but finished third rightfully so behind 2 undefeated teams. I dont see how that is up for debate.

Good, butch had 1 year slightly better than richt. Maybe even 4. Then richt had 11 years better. Reports are Butch wasnt even 2nd choice that corch shiano was.

Great congratulations! I said that Butch got closer to a Championship than Richt ever did. His best year was better than Richts best. You said thats not true. That is the discussion. Not sure what Richts 11 years has to do with that...none of those 11 were closer to a championship than Butch got.

Im not the other person you were talking to

My bad. Then why are you jumping in talking about something else, you confused me. I didnt say anything about Richt not having success at Georgia. All I said was that Butch reached a higher point than Richt, thats all.

 

[52CANES]

My dude, its not that hard to comprehend. Butch lost one game and shoulda been in the NC game. He beat FSU who was in the NC game.
Most people agree that UM team woulda spanked Oklahoma. Next year they proved it, having the benefit of hindsight we know that was arguably the greatest football team of all time.

How the **** does any of Richt's 2 best seasons compare to that? His best finish he was ranked third and didnt play in the NC game and rightfully so, because there were 2 undefeated teams ahead. One of them being Butch's team who shoulda won it all the year before

Ok maybe not light years ahead, but clearly and without a doubt Butch's best season was better than Richt's best season. And its not that close, one shoulda been the NC champ and that same team went on to be the greatest ever in CFB and the other had a good season but finished third rightfully so behind 2 undefeated teams. I dont see how that is up for debate.

Good, butch had 1 year slightly better than richt. Maybe even 4. Then richt had 11 years better. Reports are Butch wasnt even 2nd choice that corch shiano was.

Great congratulations! I said that Butch got closer to a Championship than Richt ever did. His best year was better than Richts best. You said thats not true. That is the discussion. Not sure what Richts 11 years has to do with that...none of those 11 were closer to a championship than Butch got.

Im not the other person you were talking to

My bad. Then why are you jumping in talking about something else, you confused me. I didnt say anything about Richt not having success at Georgia. All I said was that Butch reached a higher point than Richt, thats all.

Well i was replying to your post in the context of the actual thread. Richt is wrong coach. In that, how is 1 season out of 15 being i mean SLIGHTLY better make Richt the wrong coach for the job?

 

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Good, butch had 1 year slightly better than richt. Maybe even 4. Then richt had 11 years better. Reports are Butch wasnt even 2nd choice that corch shiano was.

Great congratulations! I said that Butch got closer to a Championship than Richt ever did. His best year was better than Richts best. You said thats not true. That is the discussion. Not sure what Richts 11 years has to do with that...none of those 11 were closer to a championship than Butch got.

Im not the other person you were talking to

My bad. Then why are you jumping in talking about something else, you confused me. I didnt say anything about Richt not having success at Georgia. All I said was that Butch reached a higher point than Richt, thats all.

Well i was replying to your post in the context of the actual thread. Richt is wrong coach. In that, how is 1 season out of 15 being i mean SLIGHTLY better make Richt the wrong coach for the job?

Well I never said that. I was replying to someone trying to downplay Butch by saying that he never won a championship, so I pointed out that Butch's best season was still better than Richts best season. Then somebody told me thats not true.

And I think slightly better is an understatement. One clearly shoulda been in NC game and most likely would have won (that same team went on to be considered the best CFB of all time) and the other rightfully so didnt play in the NC game and finished 3rd. I guess if you look at in the context of all the teams in CFB it was slightly better. But when comparing the best to the best, it was clearly without a doubt more than just a slightly better season. Thats like saying the national champion had a slightly better season than the runner up. No, the champion clearly had a better season.

Personally I rather have Butch, but by no means do I think its a bad hire or that Richt is a bad coach.

 

[Kcdawg34]

Georgia is not at the bottom in the SEC in resources, it's dead set in the middle.

Here’s an article about UGA’s spending versus their SEC peers that covers from 2005 – 2011: UGA football spending consistent with SEC median - The Red and Black : Sports

Here’s the money quote: “Georgia’s football spending exceeded that of the SEC median only in 2006 and 2008, the fiscal years covering the 2005 and 2007 seasons, respectively.” Georgia outspent the median – not the top – the middle, in only two years. 2015 was the first year that UGA increased its football spending to come close (though not equal) Bama/Auburn/LSU/A&M/etc.

Obviously, Richt didn’t get the chance to enjoy that one year investment.

Do you even watch college football or do you just google stats on the internet? i already explained up and down this thread about his time at UNC im not gonna keep repeating myself feel free to read the posts.

Anybody who is even a casual fan of college football knows what the deal is with Butch and UNC. Just a few internet nerds looking up stats who dont remember when he was actually at UNC (or maybe were too young) and keep saying he was a failure bc they are looking at his record while he was there.

cmon man. yes i rather have butch than richt but that doesnt mean i dont think richt is a good coach. you dont have to be an extremist and go around exaggerating and using misleading numbers to make a point. you think butch sucks? fine thats your opinion. but just know that it sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about and the stats you are using are misleading. im pretty sure you either werent paying attention to CFB when butch was at UNC or are too young to remember. If thats the case dont be talking about something you have no clue about.

I never said Butch sucked. Not once. I simply highlighted how Richt was a significant upgrade over Butch. He's won many more games, in a much tougher conference, at a school that isn't in the top three in terms of resources or history in that conference. I would have actually been happy had we hired Butch as well. I'm ecstatic about Richt. You'll see soon enough. Butch did OK at UNC. Not well. With the talent he had there he should have had better records his last two years there. Were YOU watching??? UNC was better under Mack Brown than they were under Butch. I completely understand that Butch has some mitigating circumstances, but not so much for his time at UNC. His time HERE was hindered by probation, and it took him time to get the program back off the ground. Time most people didn't want to give him. When people were flying fire Butch banners, I was one of the fans that wanted him retained. And I hated to see him go to the Browns when he did. Who knows what happens if he stays. AT the time I was hoping we had finally found a long term answer. But today we have that. We should get at least a decade of winning out of Richt. People cry like he won't be able to beat FSU, but that's hogwash. In three of AL Golden's losses to FSU we were within 5 points. I think we can expect Mark Richt to significantly improve our performance over what Al accomplished.

If u think butch did just "ok not well" at fkin unc idk wut to tell u. U seem to think highly of unc. They were a perennial doormat in football. Then u try to make it look like georgia lacks resources. Stop it man. Then again ur the same person who said they dominated the acc for years lmao wrong sport buddy i think u might be talking about basketball

And funny how im living in the past but then u bring up mack brown at unc lmao that was 20plus fkin years ago

Another thing, you say Butch shoulda won with all the talent he had....uhhhh who do you think recruited all that talent to fkin UNC? u think they were talented when he got there? lmao u obviously werent paying attention to CFB at the time and are going of what you hear and stats and records.

You keep telling me he didn't have any probation while he was there..uhhh do you not know about all of the suspensions and bs surrounding the program the last year. Just stop man, you have no clue what you are talking about. If you werent a fan at the time or just didnt pay attention, fine. But stop making yourself look stupid arguing with me about something you dont know.

Nobody said you were living in the past. Just that you are delusional if you think Butch is in the same league as Richt. I also didn't say UGA lacked resources. Just that they aren't on the same level as LSU, UF, or Bama. But UNC is towards the top of the ACC when it comes to resources as well. It's not an impossible pace to win lilke you try to make it sound. Bunting and Torbush sucked there, but they were also crappy coaches. Crappy coaches struggle even at places like Bama and UM. The other four coaches UNC has had since the late 70's have all been successful there. You are more wrong about UNC being a doormat program than my statement that they were dominant.

Im delusional to think Butch is in the same league as Richt? lmao what has Richt accomplished that Butch hasnt? Butch's best season was better than Richt's best. He got closer to a NC and his team went on to win one and be arguably the greatest CFB ever after he left. But Butch is not even in his league?? gtfoh

i cant keep having a discussion with you if your gonna keep saying how succesful UNC has been in football. For real, stop it man where the fk are you getting this from? UNC is a basketball school always has been, never been known for football. They sucked *** when Butch got there. Just bc they had a couple of good seasons 20 years ago doesnt mean they are an ACC powerhouse in football lmao gtfoh. So where the fk are you getting this sht from? Srsly I hope your just trolling.

Georgia is not at the bottom of the SEC in resources and UNC is not at the top of the ACC. your lying and even if they were, the bottom of the SEC has more resources than the top of the ACC....so I have no idea what point you are trying to make. only thing you are doing is making yourself look stupid

 

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Great congratulations! I said that Butch got closer to a Championship than Richt ever did. His best year was better than Richts best. You said thats not true. That is the discussion. Not sure what Richts 11 years has to do with that...none of those 11 were closer to a championship than Butch got.

Im not the other person you were talking to

My bad. Then why are you jumping in talking about something else, you confused me. I didnt say anything about Richt not having success at Georgia. All I said was that Butch reached a higher point than Richt, thats all.

Well i was replying to your post in the context of the actual thread. Richt is wrong coach. In that, how is 1 season out of 15 being i mean SLIGHTLY better make Richt the wrong coach for the job?

Well I never said that. I was replying to someone trying to downplay Butch by saying that he never won a championship, so I pointed out that Butch's best season was still better than Richts best season. Then somebody told me thats not true.

And I think slightly better is an understatement. One clearly shoulda been in NC game and most likely would have won (that same team went on to be considered the best CFB of all time) and the other rightfully so didnt play in the NC game and finished 3rd. I guess if you look at in the context of all the teams in CFB it was slightly better. But when comparing the best to the best, it was clearly without a doubt more than just a slightly better season. Thats like saying the national champion had a slightly better season than the runner up. No, the champion clearly had a better season.

Personally I rather have Butch, but by no means do I think its a bad hire or that Richt is a bad coach.

I feel there are many positives and negatives vs eachother but both are good. Its the biggest name Miami has gotten, so all the attacks are just ridiculous.

Far as better season or not, like i said you can cherry pick one or two seasons i guess to make your point but ill take full body of work in that case. I also like that theres a possibility do this for 15 more seasons if all work out and not 3 or 4.

But, like i said id have been happy with either. Would have been devastated with schiano or cristobal.

 

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Im not the other person you were talking to

My bad. Then why are you jumping in talking about something else, you confused me. I didnt say anything about Richt not having success at Georgia. All I said was that Butch reached a higher point than Richt, thats all.

Well i was replying to your post in the context of the actual thread. Richt is wrong coach. In that, how is 1 season out of 15 being i mean SLIGHTLY better make Richt the wrong coach for the job?

Well I never said that. I was replying to someone trying to downplay Butch by saying that he never won a championship, so I pointed out that Butch's best season was still better than Richts best season. Then somebody told me thats not true.

And I think slightly better is an understatement. One clearly shoulda been in NC game and most likely would have won (that same team went on to be considered the best CFB of all time) and the other rightfully so didnt play in the NC game and finished 3rd. I guess if you look at in the context of all the teams in CFB it was slightly better. But when comparing the best to the best, it was clearly without a doubt more than just a slightly better season. Thats like saying the national champion had a slightly better season than the runner up. No, the champion clearly had a better season.

Personally I rather have Butch, but by no means do I think its a bad hire or that Richt is a bad coach.

I feel there are many positives and negatives vs eachother but both are good. Its the biggest name Miami has gotten, so all the attacks are just ridiculous.

Far as better season or not, like i said you can cherry pick one or two seasons i guess to make your point but ill take full body of work in that case. I also like that theres a possibility do this for 15 more seasons if all work out and not 3 or 4.

But, like i said id have been happy with either. Would have been devastated with schiano or cristobal.

I understand what your saying but I wasnt cherrypicking, I wasnt trying to pick out their best seasons, simply pointing out who got closer to winning a championship.

Richt is a good coach but I think some people are going over the top with the homerism. Sure he's been successful overall during his 15 years but he has never won anything important, and only 2 conference championships in those 15 years. Also, he doesn't have the best track record when it comes to big games. Hopefully that changes here at Miami.

I am definitely pulling for Richt and you are right, we could be stuck with schiano or cristobal, so overall we are definitely going in the right direction. I just think we have to slow down with all of this "home run hire" talk, he did just get fired from his last job. People are celebrating like we just hired Nick Saban. I also dont like the fact that he wasn't good enough for Georgia but for us he is a "home run hire".

That being said I am looking forward to the season and I know that we will definitely improve under Richt.

 

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152 down votes. Good work, OP.