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Bubbacane10 said:
75% of all college students are drunk at football games at any college game you go to so miami students are just bad fans is that what your insinuating? I know you have to bus either way. Who said build a 20k stadium? Not me. I said build a stadium more suitable for a college football team. So if basketball draws that many when there good and the stadium is right on campus, imagine the football team a top 10 team and a closer stadium that better fits students and fans coming from the city. You dont think miami football would draw more students? That just doesnt make sense to me. I understand logistically the closer to campus the more challenging and difficult to build and fund a stadium but i never said 20k stadium. I said a more neutral stadium that fits a univrsity better.
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I didn't. 20k in a 45k stadium is not a good look either and is a silly justification for a new stadium.

It will matter little to the students. And it will not increase crowd sizes. A competitive program will.

College students at Alabama or Penn State or Clemson or Florida or Maryland walk to games.

Again, the argument for a dedicated stadium is Ross is no longer serving our best interests. Because of that we should be exploring our options. The time is now to do it because the project will take at least 5 years.
 
Bubbacane10 said:
#keephardrockempty
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Or build a stadium 20 miles further south and risk losing a significant portion of those who do show up so the ~18,000 students are possibly more likely to attend.

People aren't skipping games because of the stadium's location, it's because the product sucks.

Oh, and I'm sure people will be more than willing to pay the same prices for fewer amenities and bleacher seating.
 
Rellyrell said:
I don’t get the “we don’t need our own stadium” crowd.

It boggles my mind. Wonder what USC is doing w/ that extra $69m for naming rights to their stadium or UCLA making part of a $38m naming deal for the Rosebowl.

Wonder how Bama is doing w/ those ticket, parking, and concession stands profits from Bryant-Denny Stadium?

I dunno; some fans vision is so minute & tunneled; I’m hearing ppl say we don’t need a new stadium b/c of “traffic.” LOL. FOH.

I literally have the most expensive stadium IN THE WORLD in my back yard, w/ a brand new basketball arena being built next door, in a small city outside of LA, by one of the busiest airports in the entire world. Guess what? City planning did something about it to mitigate traffic. That’s what planning is all about.

Whether it comes to fruition or not is no never mind to the bull chit I read. Small time thinking gives u small time results.
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Pasadena owns the Rose Bowl and it is managed by the city, the Rose Bowl and UCLA.

The Coliseum is owned jointly by the state and city. USC manages it.
 
That makes sense to me and maybe they should start exploring a Boston College or Stanford like Stadium at Tropical Park. Even if just used as leverage.
 
Optics got sad THIS year? I thought it was embarrassing in 2018 already.
 
OldhamA said:
Go speak to Tottenham Hotspur FC about building a new stadium (or ****nal FC). They're massively in debt now and can't compete in the transfer market because of their vanity project.
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True. But in the UK, it's all privately owned vanity projects, they really don't do public-private partnerships. ****, most of the parks in London are privately-owned. I used to work for a company that had a key to Portman Square, near Hyde Park.

I also used to do tax work for the American investments (in Florida) of the Tottenham ownership group, so I became familiar with some of what they were doing on the soccer side.

I'd just say this, over the past 40 years, I've seen a tremendous amount of tearing down and rebuilding in Miami. Never rule out anything just because of cost/traffic.

****, Coral Gables just keeps getting taller and denser, but the roads are nearly the same as they were when they were planned out 100 years ago.
 
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Pentagon Cane said:
I didn't. 20k in a 45k stadium is not a good look either and is a silly justification for a new stadium.

It will matter little to the students. And it will not increase crowd sizes. A competitive program will.

College students at Alabama or Penn State or Clemson or Florida or Maryland walk to games.

Again, the argument for a dedicated stadium is Ross is no longer serving our best interests. Because of that we should be exploring our options. The time is now to do it because the project will take at least 5 years.
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Respectfully, you dont speak for every student just because your son goes there and you also dont know that it wouldnt increase crowd sizes thats your opinion as is its my opinion it would increase. I respect your opinion and enjoy what you post but if you're saying the time is now which i agree, from a braud lense how is that different then what im saying. It's probably time to explore a new stadium i think we agree upon maybe just differnce in why getting there.
 
Pentagon Cane said:
I am not crazy about dual tenet at a soccer stadium because you are going to be further away from the field. That being said nothing wrong with exploring options.
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I just want to address this for a quick moment. Yes, in the past, "dual-purpose" stadiums were built to be overly large, and let's not forget that Joe Robbie wanted his stadium to host football AND baseball AND soccer.

But if you look at the new wave of American soccer stadiums, the sidelines are very narrow, both teams sit on the same side, and the players/coaches usually sit in an area that mostly "juts into the normal seating area".

So if you purpose-built a new-style American soccer stadium, and then just built it "taller", you would still have good proximity from the stands to the field. But, yes, that HAS been a problem in the past.

Regardless, someone made a comment in a previous thread that the MIA flightpaths require a height limit for the new Inter Miami stadium that would probably preclude an "upper deck" for football.

There are still two perfect locations: the dirt mall directly north of Magic City Casino, and the 8 square blocks directly east of the Marlins Stadium (parking already included!).
 
JD08 said:
Or build a stadium 20 miles further south and risk losing a significant portion of those who do show up so the ~18,000 students are possibly more likely to attend.

People aren't skipping games because of the stadium's location, it's because the product sucks.

Oh, and I'm sure people will be more than willing to pay the same prices for fewer amenities and bleacher seating.
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lol im just messing around i just love how divided the stadium discussion is but I have always said a neutral stadium logistically. So it fits better for both fans. It is because of the product and also location. It can be both but yes majority is the product on the field which is dog ****.
 
Pentagon Cane said:
Pasadena owns the Rose Bowl and it is managed by the city, the Rose Bowl and UCLA.

The Coliseum is owned jointly by the state and city. USC manages it.
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I’m well aware of the situation as I’ve posted this info on here. Lol. And they’ve made $ off the partnership.
 
3FW said:
That makes sense to me and maybe they should start exploring a Boston College or Stanford like Stadium at Tropical Park. Even if just used as leverage.
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You guys suckered me in:

Have you been to Boston College’s Stadium in Chestnut Hill?

Yes, it’s nice, small & quaint. The lone parking garage is reserved for those who spend the most in tickets, etc.

Chestnut Hill is similar to Coral Gables (not as nice) but you have to find parking in the streets and walk a long a$$ way (sucks when it’s cold & if there is snow, less parking available) to the stadium. No public transportation. A lot of areas that you can’t park in because they will tow your car, etc. You have to arrive super early just to find a parking space that you can’t tailgate.
 
1mg of Epi said:
It youre talking about an on campus stadium, or near campus stadium, it doesn’t make sense. You’d be catering to a small group of fans, and making it extremely difficult for many many more to get to the games.

The student section isn’t what made the OB a tough place to play.
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On campus makes zero sense. I never got that rhetoric. Barely had room for an IPF. Was The OB near campus?
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
I just want to address this for a quick moment. Yes, in the past, "dual-purpose" stadiums were built to be overly large, and let's not forget that Joe Robbie wanted his stadium to host football AND baseball AND soccer.

But if you look at the new wave of American soccer stadiums, the sidelines are very narrow, both teams sit on the same side, and the players/coaches usually sit in an area that mostly "juts into the normal seating area".

So if you purpose-built a new-style American soccer stadium, and then just built it "taller", you would still have good proximity from the stands to the field. But, yes, that HAS been a problem in the past.

Regardless, someone made a comment in a previous thread that the MIA flightpaths require a height limit for the new Inter Miami stadium that would probably preclude an "upper deck" for football.

There are still two perfect locations: the dirt mall directly north of Magic City Casino, and the 8 square blocks directly east of the Marlins Stadium (parking already included!).
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Which is interesting because the Marriott complex is right across from Melreese off Le Juene.
 
RVACane said:
Nothing like this is a simple fix in Planning. I don’t think they’re the same situations in terms of infrastructure baselines and funding. Is the new arena by you also by the Forum or Staples Center? Is the ownership the government or a pro sports team?

“We don’t need a new stadium because of traffic” isn’t the same thing as the University of Miami can’t have a new stadium in a location where the cost of improvements to transportation infrastructure will be over a billion dollars plus stadium costs.
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Yes, it’s next to the Forum. The Staples center is on the other side of town. Yes, the owner of SoFi used his own $, but the city of Inglewood had to approve, w/ many residents up in arm b/c it’s in a zoned/commercial residential area. That meant ppl’s homes & businesses were up & demolished.

Again, the city & the owner had to come to an agreement that was mutually beneficial. All this road construction, lighting, permitted parking, etc. all that is on the city. The stadium took years of negotiating, planning, etc.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
I just want to address this for a quick moment. Yes, in the past, "dual-purpose" stadiums were built to be overly large, and let's not forget that Joe Robbie wanted his stadium to host football AND baseball AND soccer.

But if you look at the new wave of American soccer stadiums, the sidelines are very narrow, both teams sit on the same side, and the players/coaches usually sit in an area that mostly "juts into the normal seating area".

So if you purpose-built a new-style American soccer stadium, and then just built it "taller", you would still have good proximity from the stands to the field. But, yes, that HAS been a problem in the past.

Regardless, someone made a comment in a previous thread that the MIA flightpaths require a height limit for the new Inter Miami stadium that would probably preclude an "upper deck" for football.

There are still two perfect locations: the dirt mall directly north of Magic City Casino, and the 8 square blocks directly east of the Marlins Stadium (parking already included!).
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Marlins stadium area your speaking about is a perfect spot. Thats where i'd build it.
 
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