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MANNY (5 YEAR PLAN?)

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Well since we just faced the #1 Program in the land let's review quickly how they got there. Dabo much like Manuel was on staff years before taking over as a first time leader. He took over in 2009 his first two seasons he had to learn by trial and error. His 3rd season he turned a corner. After making staff changes he finally found the right mix and by his 5th year he turned another corner finished in AP top 10. Found his QB Watson afterwards and hit a home run winning 2 rings afterwards and the rest is history.

The point is whether good or bad Mandy is in year 2 of a 5 year plan since he's a first year guy. He's learning by trial and error with the biggest positive so far is he can be flexible making necessary changes in off season, plus a decent recruiter. This is year two and we have a lot of energy back around the program but we still need time to reach that upper elite status that Clemson, Ohio St, Alabama is in. If we keep stacking top ten classes for next 3 years and eliminate the week links on the staff Manny can turn out to be the right guy. If by year 5 we still aren't in élite status then we'll just remove him and the next coach will have a very talented team.

Moral of the story is teams don't lose to FIU, Georgia tech, get shutout by Louisiana technicians, and then turn around and compete with Clemson, Bama, or Ohio st the very next year.

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nycane said:
Dabo didn’t have the recruiting base or tradition Um has
Also he had less coordinator experience than manny
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He did more with less, and that speaks to the strength of his staff.

The difference with Clemson is that staff is never leaving. They'll be there 30 years from now, if Dabo is still there. No other team in college football enjoys that advantage.
 
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Had a chat with a few Clemson fans.

A) arent they surprised about the game. Its classic Clemson, the bigger the game, the bigger they play. B) Venables has his stuff ready. Always has, always will. C) Dabo plans the whole season with every practice and meeting months before the season. He holds everyone accountable to a certain standard and if you fall below that, you are benched. Including him (see the blocked FG). This is where we have to go. Is Manny that guy? Probably not. Too nice.
 
They aren’t the same circumstances here. Bottom line is that Manny had the horses to win 9 last year and has the horses to win 10 this year. This is his defense, and the offense has a ton of talent relative to our conference and schedule, and is lead by vet QB who is a player. We weren’t going to beat Clemson this year, I would not expect us to beat ND but the rest of the schedule has to be handled with a mistake allotted for a slip up.
 
Dabo is the Shnellenberger of Clemson. He took over a program that not only was mediocre immediately before he took over, but also really didn't have that much football history period.

And he was coaching in South Carolina, not South Florida.


Of course it would take Dabo a while to get Clemson going.
 
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canesmang1 said:
hes been here 5 years coaching the defense and the linebackers how that unit doing?
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One of the top in the nation in tackles for losses and sacks the previous three seasons, but its not his job anymore it's Blake's. Manny just has to eliminate the last few weak links on the staff.
 
Odysseus said:
One of the top in the nation in tackles for losses and sacks the previous three seasons, but its not his job anymore it's Blake's. Manny just has to eliminate the last few weak links on the staff.
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Hes the coach and is responsible for his staff. A great CEO surrounds himself with great assistants and holds them accountable to his standard. Also promotes a family type atmosphere and culture that they want to be a part of. Is Manny a capable CEO? What standard does he set? That will determine if he succeeds or fails.
 
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Tigerlance said:
Hes the coach and is responsible for his staff. A great CEO surrounds himself with great assistants and holds them accountable to his standard. Also promotes a family type atmosphere and culture that they want to be a part of. Is Manny a capable CEO? What standard does he set? That will determine if he succeeds or fails.
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This right here is the million dollar question we'll just have to watch it play out and hope he's the right guy. I just need to see him hold more guys accountable
 
Odysseus said:
One of the top in the nation in tackles for losses and sacks the previous three seasons, but its not his job anymore it's Blake's. Manny just has to eliminate the last few weak links on the staff.
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I was more talking about the linebacker unit
 
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