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Manny’s first real test as HC..,

LuCane said:
His first move in this specific area was hiring a coach players apparently respect. Enos knows QBs. He has a track record. He's up to date with modern skills, drills and schemes. I know that sounds like what should be a given and a low bar, but cot**** if we weren't below it in recent years.
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I saw this at the HS level where the HC of 27 yrs, at a very small, upstate NY school, was very,very successful for a long time. Then it got stale. He was old fashioned at 55 yrs old..After his first losing season in a long time he went 0-7 the next year 1-6. I saw those games and he had lost all support of the community, old schemes, the best athletes at school didn't play, New Coach last year. I did off. stats and It's night and day, where the kids get together off season and will play with pride. The old HC was one of my best friends and all-sports teammates growing up. Ego and age catches you, makes you lazy, fall back safe mode if you aren't mentally tough to change up I reckon.
 
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Twhizman said:
I'm dumb sure i am but unlike you i m smart enough to blow my nose in a tissue and throw it away.up till now I never you could do that with booger.you must be an expert at picking your nose and doing that bet you wear high water pants.that's pant legs seamed at the ankles in case you didn't but of course you knew because you are Urkels kissing cousin.your favorite line is -" did I do that".
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Jizzman. That is the sound of crickets.
 
The Franchise said:
Manny will prove what kind of leader he is by how engaged he keeps the backup QBs. If the guys who lose the job mope around and tear up the locker room and start breeding factions, then Manny didn’t do a good job.

His main job as HC is to be a leader of men. He has guys in place to run the O and D. It’ll be interesting to see how the QBs (and their factions) handle not winning the job. It should be a fairly easy job to keep them engaged, as the winner shouldn’t be automatically anointed for the next 3 years.

I remember a couple years ago Sabag started that stiff who transferred 20 times then went to Hurts after 2 series. I think Helton started that Max Brown kid in that same game then wound up eventually going to Darnold, who was infinitely better.
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This is part of the plan, I think. Keeping all three engaged. It’s possible there was one that separated out slightly but he’s not emphasizing that. He might be wanting it to carryover once a starter is named, telling the other two how close they were, and that they may soon get a turn, even with the starter named. I mean I’m just guessing here, but this kind of makes sense if you’re forward looking

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The Franchise said:
Yeah. You’re clueless. Of course if you win every game all will be well. But we’re not going to win every game.
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Didn’t say win every game. I said beat the Gator.

Win the games that matter.

And you’re probably smart enough to know that’s correct. Whatever little favorites people have right now all go out the window on 8/24. QB plays like garbage, the fans and team will turn on him. But if the QB is the hero, then everyone will rally behind him.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
They absolutely did. It’s something I’ve pondered in the past.

Although I totally disagree with them quitting, at that place and time I understood why it happened. Although I didn’t agree with it.

It was his last game, he was gone. Probably the linebackers knew that they were gone. And the entire defense was disheartened from the lack of the offense even being able to put them in the game. No excuse but you can see how it happened.

It was still quitting though, and the question I have is, I wonder if he has addressed it with those guys that are really close to him, i.e., the guys on defense.

And if he addressed it, I wonder how he addressed it.

I’m not talking about how he addressed it at the end of that game. Everybody just went their separate ways then.

I wonder if he’s addressed it now. He needs to because it was unacceptable.

Did he light into them when he came back? Did he have a heart to heart with them? Let them know that it wasn’t acceptable then, and it won’t be acceptable now? I wonder.
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I’m hoping that once he was announced as the new HC at Miami that he had a heart to heart with his defensive leaders as Franchise said as a psychologist weaving his spin on to what occurred that afternoon/evening, and letting them all know that it would no longer be tolerated. I just can’t imagine him touting TNM and not having addressed it with his players, unless he chalked that up as a part of the change and that he truly considers everyone to have been given a fresh, new start for the 2019 season as he’s mentioned previously.
 
HighSeas said:
Manny's 1st real test was handling the offensive staff and he passed with flying colors. Let's not move the goalposts here.
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A very big first test.

He was chosen as the new leader, he made a key decision (on former organizational colleagues no less), and told everyone "we are driving on". From the outside, would appear he handled it flawlessly then and since.
 
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The Franchise said:
Yep. But his defense quit against Wisconsin.
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The offense was completely inept, they lost their best defensive player (most dominant defender the program has had in years, and their coach was quitting.

They wasn’t the 2000 Ravens.

Still only gave up 14 through the third quarter.

Young guys were just depleted from all the adversity. Ran out of mojo in a hopeless situation.
 
TruCane81 said:
The offense was completely inept, they lost their best defensive player (most dominant defender the program has had in years, and their coach was quitting.

They wasn’t the 2000 Ravens.

Still only gave up 14 through the third quarter.

Young guys were just depleted from all the adversity. Ran out of mojo in a hopeless situation.
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Cant even criticize the D for that game. Richt's annual "No Mas" last year was epic, and the team was fin. The amazing thing was they didnt quit a lot earlier. Most defenses would have quit soon after their HC taps out, which occured in early October in Richts case
 
PortvilleCane said:
I saw this at the HS level where the HC of 27 yrs, at a very small, upstate NY school, was very,very successful for a long time. Then it got stale. He was old fashioned at 55 yrs old..After his first losing season in a long time he went 0-7 the next year 1-6. I saw those games and he had lost all support of the community, old schemes, the best athletes at school didn't play, New Coach last year. I did off. stats and It's night and day, where the kids get together off season and will play with pride. The old HC was one of my best friends and all-sports teammates growing up. Ego and age catches you, makes you lazy, fall back safe mode if you aren't mentally tough to change up I reckon.
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Did this guy also hire his unqualified son to be QB coach?
 
The Franchise said:
Manny will prove what kind of leader he is by how engaged he keeps the backup QBs. If the guys who lose the job mope around and tear up the locker room and start breeding factions, then Manny didn’t do a good job.

His main job as HC is to be a leader of men. He has guys in place to run the O and D. It’ll be interesting to see how the QBs (and their factions) handle not winning the job. It should be a fairly easy job to keep them engaged, as the winner shouldn’t be automatically anointed for the next 3 years.

I remember a couple years ago Sabag started that stiff who transferred 20 times then went to Hurts after 2 series. I think Helton started that Max Brown kid in that same game then wound up eventually going to Darnold, who was infinitely better.
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Is it too early to ask whether Manny passed the test?
 
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Poptimus said:
I'm not concerned about it, I think if a QB starts bytching and wants out, fine, Manny will let him transfer. We'll still have two solid QBs plus an unknown in Matocha and a commitment from TVD and hopefully soon Garcia. It's not the same situation it was just 8 months ago.
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Matocha will be good in two years
 
The Franchise said:
Manny will prove what kind of leader he is by how engaged he keeps the backup QBs. If the guys who lose the job mope around and tear up the locker room and start breeding factions, then Manny didn’t do a good job.

His main job as HC is to be a leader of men. He has guys in place to run the O and D. It’ll be interesting to see how the QBs (and their factions) handle not winning the job. It should be a fairly easy job to keep them engaged, as the winner shouldn’t be automatically anointed for the next 3 years.

I remember a couple years ago Sabag started that stiff who transferred 20 times then went to Hurts after 2 series. I think Helton started that Max Brown kid in that same game then wound up eventually going to Darnold, who was infinitely better.
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Yea lets judge Manny as a HC based on what happens with the back up QBs....so if both QB2 and QB3 leave but we win every game in the regular season then hes not a good leader. Got it, thanks for the brilliant insight Franchase
 
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