Let's debate running backs and offensive line

[firstandcanes]

I'm tired of coach speculation so let's talk about the running game. It's well known the rushing attack has struggled this year.

Is the reason the struggles of the offensive line? Could it be we do not have a home run threat? Or is it a lack of creativity on offense?

I would really like to see what Yearby and Walton can do behind a decent line but neither look like take it to the house on any play guys. Yearby has teriffic feet and burst but lacks long end speed. He's great for a quick 10 yards. Walton seems a little faster but still very similar to Yearly. Let's see what a year of off season conditioning does.

To me a great back makes an average line look good. Our line is below average and while Yearby and Walton are good they are not great. This year is the first in a while where we have no home run threat in the backfield. Maybe one can grow into that role but I think it's something that needs addressed in recruiting. It'd be nice to have a running game as dangerous as the passing game.

Even with a terrible scheme and line we should have a decent running attack.

 

[L A M P]

In the next few weeks, I hope to never hear the name Kehoe again.. (Same with Swasey)

 

[01Canes]

Is the reason the struggles of the offensive line? Could it be we do not have a home run threat? Or is it a lack of creativity on offense?

Yes. All three.

James Coley and our OL are dreadful. Yearby and Walton are nice players who lack burst and top-end speed, limiting their ceiling and ability to be difference makers when there isn't a gaping hole. They're both more dangerous as receivers than they are as runners.

Travis Homer will be our most explosive back the day he steps on campus, if he sticks. And our next staff needs to make a run at Fils-Aime, too, because we desperately need more Miami speed.

 

[canesrdynamite]

We don't run block well. Our play calling is crap. And our backs are good but don't have elite speed. It's a bad combo, unfortunately.

I think the worst of the 3 is poor run blocking. The other two don't matter as much if you've got maulers up front.

 

[FullyERicht]

In the next few weeks, I hope to never hear the name Kehoe again.. (Same with Swasey)

This, and adding Coley as well. We have had OL issues for years, even with Stoutland.

 

[L A M P]

In the next few weeks, I hope to never hear the name Kehoe again.. (Same with Swasey)

This, and adding Coley as well. We have had OL issues for years, even with Stoutland.

I thought we were solid under Stoutland once he got rid of Kehoe'itis. Didn't add Coley bc he hasn't been here long enough.

 

[miamiphd]

The OL is young; none of the starters on the OL were seniors. The OL-man with the most experience is Isadora. Gall has not impressed, but hopefully one of the underclassmen will win his job. With good coaching and more experience, they will gel into a good unit. Also remember that UM lost its most experienced RB. Edwards has the power and bulk to get some of the tough, short yards on 3rd down.

I don't think it is fair to evaluate the current players in light of the crappy coaching and game plans they have to work with.

 

[Canezum5]

A mediocre or young o-line can look even better with great playcalling, personnel grouping, and formation use.

Coley isnt good at any of those things.

There really is no excuse for running so much shotgun this year. Kehoe does great at coaching the zone blocking scheme and our backs are tailor made for the cutback, especially yearby.

It's too predictable to sit in shotgun all game long with a weak/young offensive line and an offensive line coach whose expertise isnt that style. . If you watch Jimbo Fisher with a young oline... all he does is use heavy formations. passing out of run formations all game long.

Making the defense think is what an offensive coordinator is supposed to do to take pressure off of the players.

Nothing worse than mark whipple sitting in shotgun all day letting jacory get teed off on and throw picks.... formations are important.

Coley is doing a little bit too much shotgun this year. our offense is becoming predictable and easy to defend.

using the same plays. no innovation. Jimbo fisher could take this same offense, running back, line and all and dominate with it.

 

[Dwinstitles]

I want that power o where the OL gets to have fun and maul not wait for defenders. Bbb

 

[firstandcanes]

Your right about the shotgun. We've used it WAY to much this year. Can anybody recall using play action out of a running formation this year?

 

[L A M P]

Btw brilliant move to kick off Gadbois. Wouldn't want his nastiness rubbing off on these current kids. Could you imagine him at this photoshoot? He might have assualted the photographer.

 

[TemplarCane]

All three.

Edwards' injury removed the power back from the equation. Edwards is by no means elite but at 230 pounds he brings a size dimension Yearby and Walton lack. Gray wasn't trusted to hold on to the ball.

The OL lacks strength and cannot consistently get a push. They haven't for a long time. Apparently U-Tough does not lead to U-Can Block.

Coley's playcalling failed to adjust to these deficiencies.

Three reasons people need to get off Kaaya's back.

 

[Canezum5]

Your right about the shotgun. We've used it WAY to much this year. Can anybody recall using play action out of a running formation this year?

I cant recall. We **** sure run that weak *** play action out of shotgun that no one falls for in the second half... -___-

 

[arizonacane]

Walton is better than Yearby. Walton has a full stride blast to the hole, whereas Yearby is a chopper. He takes 4 strides to Walton's 2. Watched Yearby carefully today and if he were a longer strider, he would have had some longer runs. Duke Johnson was a strider, he had over 1500 yards rushing in 2014. The team had over 2000 yards total. This year, Yearby is at around 960 and our total rushing as a team is around 1500.

The OL was in constant flux due to Golden's insistence that Art rotate the linemen. The last couple of games saw more continuity to the line, without the rotation. IMO, Linder and Odogwu were the best this year. Get rid of Swasey and bring in a SC like Moffett, and you will see the type of OL Kehoe wants to play with. One thing to realize about Kehoe, from the past two years he has Feliciano, Flowers, Linder on active rosters and McDermott on a practice squad in the NFL.

Kehoe knows what he is doing. The HC needs to give him to tools to make the line better.

 

[Canezum5]

As good as the Cowboys o-line was last year.... A third of that has to do with Linehans playcalling and formation use. Tony romos cut in interceptions and spike in qbr last season were totally due to formation changes in the playcalling.

When garrett was calling plays tony was tossing twice the picks and getting destroyed.

Doesnt matter how talented you are when you're TOO **** PREDICTABLE

 

[Canezum5]

Walton is better than Yearby. Walton has a full stride blast to the hole, whereas Yearby is a chopper. He takes 4 strides to Walton's 2. Watched Yearby carefully today and if he were a longer strider, he would have had some longer runs. Duke Johnson was a strider, he had over 1500 yards rushing in 2014. The team had over 2000 yards total. This year, Yearby is at around 960 and our total rushing as a team is around 1500.

The OL was in constant flux due to Golden's insistence that Art rotate the linemen. The last couple of games saw more continuity to the line, without the rotation. IMO, Linder and Odogwu were the best this year. Get rid of Swasey and bring in a SC like Moffett, and you will see the type of OL Kehoe wants to play with. One thing to realize about Kehoe, from the past two years he has Feliciano, Flowers, Linder on active rosters and McDermott on a practice squad in the NFL.

Kehoe knows what he is doing. The HC needs to give him to tools to make the line better.

Kehoe is a good coach. Hes just not versatile. He cant coach for all types of schemes. Our o-lines always look best when the qb is under center and we are using the zone blocking scheme with traditional power formations.

 

[firstandcanes]

Walton is better than Yearby. Walton has a full stride blast to the hole, whereas Yearby is a chopper. He takes 4 strides to Walton's 2. Watched Yearby carefully today and if he were a longer strider, he would have had some longer runs. Duke Johnson was a strider, he had over 1500 yards rushing in 2014. The team had over 2000 yards total. This year, Yearby is at around 960 and our total rushing as a team is around 1500.

The OL was in constant flux due to Golden's insistence that Art rotate the linemen. The last couple of games saw more continuity to the line, without the rotation. IMO, Linder and Odogwu were the best this year. Get rid of Swasey and bring in a SC like Moffett, and you will see the type of OL Kehoe wants to play with. One thing to realize about Kehoe, from the past two years he has Feliciano, Flowers, Linder on active rosters and McDermott on a practice squad in the NFL.

Kehoe knows what he is doing. The HC needs to give him to tools to make the line better.

Kehoe is a good coach. Hes just not versatile. He cant coach for all types of schemes. Our o-lines always look best when the qb is under center and we are using the zone blocking scheme with traditional power formations.

But our O line has not been great for a while. There has been no growth this year. Coaches have to evolve too, not just players. In that case Kehoe is like Golden... hard headed trying to fit square pegs into round holes.

 

[stonecoldrhett]

Yearby is a better Tyrone Moss. Walton reminds me of J. Payton.

 

[Canezum5]

Walton is better than Yearby. Walton has a full stride blast to the hole, whereas Yearby is a chopper. He takes 4 strides to Walton's 2. Watched Yearby carefully today and if he were a longer strider, he would have had some longer runs. Duke Johnson was a strider, he had over 1500 yards rushing in 2014. The team had over 2000 yards total. This year, Yearby is at around 960 and our total rushing as a team is around 1500.

The OL was in constant flux due to Golden's insistence that Art rotate the linemen. The last couple of games saw more continuity to the line, without the rotation. IMO, Linder and Odogwu were the best this year. Get rid of Swasey and bring in a SC like Moffett, and you will see the type of OL Kehoe wants to play with. One thing to realize about Kehoe, from the past two years he has Feliciano, Flowers, Linder on active rosters and McDermott on a practice squad in the NFL.

Kehoe knows what he is doing. The HC needs to give him to tools to make the line better.

Kehoe is a good coach. Hes just not versatile. He cant coach for all types of schemes. Our o-lines always look best when the qb is under center and we are using the zone blocking scheme with traditional power formations.

But our O line has not been great for a while. There has been no growth this year. Coaches have to evolve too, not just players. In that case Kehoe is like Golden... hard headed trying to fit square pegs into round holes.

O-line hasnt been too bad the last few years, really. Been pretty **** good considering the dumb ash playcalling weve had here.

I never said we should keep kehoe. I think there are better coaches out there.

What im saying is.... why not work with what you got? Why not play to his strengths if your offensive coordinator

 

[robertpaige]

Let's all please remember how bad at football Sunny Odogwu was when he first got here and what Kehoe has been able to do with him. I'm not saying our OL play had been anywhere near satisfactory this year, but to say the man is a bad Oline coach is just false. I would like to see what he could do with the dogs he has next year, as this year he was forced to rely upon young players that were **** near a liability in pass pro