Let the speculation begin

[KrazyCane]

Losing JHH would only hurt bc we already lost Nesta but JHH in a vacuum isnt that big of a deal… but it would
Mean that we lost our two most active DTs the last two seasons which is a big deal overall. Hard to make up unless returning DTs like Haye and LT step up and the portal transfers prove theyre upgrades and remain healthy this season.

 

[cway313]

There’s really only a handful of players that I hope we keep, the rest can do what they gotta do

Diaz was a pretty ****** talent evaluator, we’re not missing much by overturning most of the roster.

Facts. Safeties, Tight Ends, QB everything else meh.

 

[grover]

I really don’t care how good or bad a player Malik was (he was terrible lol). Plenty of great coaches who weren’t great players.

But I never saw Malik as a future coach. He was never a grinder, was never a film rat, didn’t get serious about football until the starting role was thrust on him by default. That’s not the stuff legends are made of.

I have zero QB experience. But anyone could tell Richt was dumbing that offense down to high school level schematically not only because of Malik’s poor arm and accuracy, but also because Malik lacked fundamentals.

If you’re going to have a private coach, get a guy who is a natural perfectionist and true student of the game.

 

[canes41590]

Don’t want Malik near any of our QB’s

 

[MovingZen]

I just Don’t think that’s a fare assessment to Jhh then because that was the worst de play we have had in the last 6 years at least. Mccloud was our best De let that sink In

Can't argue with you too much on that. Maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle. I don't want him to leave, but if he wants more playing time he's gotta step it up here or do what he's got to do somewhere else. Hopefully he stays.

 

[ristwasdown]

Brock needs to stick to rooster analysis

 

[Brooklyndee]

Understood and thank you. Besides obviously letting Ponce do his thing, your issue with the private coaching is how Malik played at the position then?
Legit curious, I dont know the inner workings of what goes on in these private trainings. As well as throughout my lifetime a lot of the “good” coaches were mediocre or average players who worked hard on fundamentals even if it didn’t translate on the field but helps in coaching.
Not saying thats the case with Malik or others. But was curious if you have seen anything in that aspect of coaching that you question as well

I don't wanna keep getting into essentially having to **** on him as a player. I'm just gonna leave it at NOTHING about his game do you wanna emulate. QB coaches atleast know how to emphasize mechanics,technique,release point,hip fluidity, footwork etc. The question should be what did you see out of Malik on game days that would make you comfortable with him teaching your QB any of that?

 

[Brooklyndee]

Exactly. Ponce probably would never have even been taken as a walk on QB at Miami, but he's a good QB coach. So Malik may or may not be good at coaching the position, but sucking as a player isn't a basis for making that determination.

I think ur missing the point. This isn't about him sucking as a player. This is about WHY he sucked as a player.

 

[Angry Ibis]

Are you new?


FLY. THE. PLANE.

but not Ruiz plane because that would be wasteful though….

 

[Brooklyndee]

Malik had a noodle arm, his decision making and IQ were solid overall. Sure I'd prefer Peyton Manning to coach em up but i dont see this as a bad thing

And frankly, Malik had the QB swag/confidence and was never scared of the moment. Insert Miami vs. FSU Rosier to Langham vid where Malik told the FSU crowd to get loud and then shut them up for the W. IF any of that rubs off, the better. He was more clutch than Kayaa despite having half the talent, sadly.

While I'd agree he made several good throws and had his moments, I think the fans have a tendency of giving credit or blame to the entirely wrong person. For instance you mentioning the fsu game. I'd STRONGLY disagree with the idea that he is the one who deserves credit for that.

 

[brock]

While I'd agree he made several good throws and had his moments, I think the fans have a tendency of giving credit or blame to the entirely wrong person. For instance you mentioning the fsu game. I'd STRONGLY disagree with the idea that he is the one who deserves credit for that.

What? Smh, what qb have we had in the last decade had the balls to pull off the last drive that malik did in 2017 in the same circumstances

 

[Hoyacane1620]

Exactly. Ponce probably would never have even been taken as a walk on QB at Miami, but he's a good QB coach. So Malik may or may not be good at coaching the position, but sucking as a player isn't a basis for making that determination.

Mario is a stickler for details etc. If he - and Frank Ponce - don't have a problem with TVD continuing to work with Malik Rosier, I'm not worrying about it. From TVD's own mouth, Rosier helped him with film, etc.

I would imagine if they felt it was something to be concerned about they would firmly, and nicely shut it down.

 

[Dlachowski]

I think ur missing the point. This isn't about him sucking as a player. This is about WHY he sucked as a player.

Man Rosier even admitted when he was here that he didn’t watch film like he should.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Get off your knees, enough is enough.

Man, when brock digs his heels, he QUADRUPLES down...

 

[Brooklyndee]

What? Smh, what qb have we had in the last decade had the balls to pull off the last drive that malik did in 2017 in the same circumstances

brock, have a nice day bud.

 

[Juancane]

I mean I trust Ponce to be the one he listens to most. If Rosier wants to work with him on the side, I don’t think that’s a bad thing.

Rosier worked with QBs last year.…. Do people think Qb coaches are all pro bowlers…. Idiotic

 

[insaneinthecane]

MALIK HIMSELF

Isn’t Malik the QB that admitted he never watched film or took watching film seriously until his senior year?

 

[SCarolina Ibis]

I don't wanna keep getting into essentially having to **** on him as a player. I'm just gonna leave it at NOTHING about his game do you wanna emulate. QB coaches atleast know how to emphasize mechanics,technique,release point,hip fluidity, footwork etc. The question should be what did you see out of Malik on game days that would make you comfortable with him teaching your QB any of that?

I almost hate to say this because saying ANYTHING about TVD besides FiRsT oVeRaLl PiCk has become blasphemy around here, but he's DEFINITELY got some things to work on.

One example is his throwing motion. Last year I noticed that sometimes he'll drop his arm, and for lack of better words, sidearm his 10-15 yard throws. As he played better I started coming up with excuses. I figured maybe it was the pressure and he was dropping his arm to throw around a defender. **** like that. But then he did it during the spring game without anyone in his face, and it was on short routes.

That throwing motion.. its not the end of the world, but he's got to clean it up before we can talk about #1 QB in the draft. So yeah.. he needs an actual QB coach. And not just some guy he used to play with. Much less, as u pointed out, our worst QB in 40 years, who learned from the WORST QB coach in the history of the program.

 

[hiphopanimal]

What? Smh, what qb have we had in the last decade had the balls to pull off the last drive that malik did in 2017 in the same circumstances

Bruh - he showed moxie, agreed. It's not like he made some incredible throws that could not be duplicated. I seem to remember Berrios' YAC, tough running from Walton and a jump ball 1 on 1 to Langham.

 

[Fzac75]

I don't wanna keep getting into essentially having to **** on him as a player. I'm just gonna leave it at NOTHING about his game do you wanna emulate. QB coaches atleast know how to emphasize mechanics,technique,release point,hip fluidity, footwork etc. The question should be what did you see out of Malik on game days that would make you comfortable with him teaching your QB any of that?

I agree with you totally. This is not **** on him and don’t ever want it to be. At the end of the day he gave his all for the U and appreciate his efforts and attempts even if it wasn’t up to par. For the life of me never understand why folks have to dump on a guy. Critique? Heck yeah but the level of vitriol against these guys at times, especially when they have never laced em up at that level is beyond my comprehension.
And again I am just looking to gain more insight into the thought process behind former players, especially those that excelled. To that point to your question what about Ponce makes you feel comfortable? If we are going based on how they performed as a qualifier? Were you as a player of the school of thought that if you weren’t any good I can’t trust what you are teaching me? Because I know there is that school of thought amongst players, some guys only trust tips or advice from what they deem qualified former players and others that don’t care how they performed just as long as what they are providing them helps their overall game. Personally I have no preference, only thing that matters is that what you do helps your overall play and in turn helps the team and the player get to the next level.
I do agree that what is of the utmost importance is that whatever extra training our QB’s do outside of the program that it aligns with what our coaches are teaching and implementing.