Let’s Talk Conference Pride

[423Hurricane]

OK, I call bullcrap on a couple of elements.

First, I get it if we are having a conversation, and someone says "SEC-SEC-SEC". But to see fans chanting it at a major sporting event is just pure beta. It is.

Second, as for the money, that has become a very orchestrated thing (and, sure, I get that it's not the SEC's major job in life to look out for everyone else). By blackballing Miami, F$U, GaTech, Louisville, and Clemson (in favor of Mizzou and aTm), the SEC went down a specific pathway where they felt that they "only" needed one school in each of those states. Florida is the #3 state by popluation and Georgia is the #8 state. Again, I understand the take of aTm, but it's also pretty obvious that UM and F$U would have been better schools to take into the SEC than Mizzou was.

As for the ACC, I can basically agree. Our commissioner was terrible for years, and I would have much preferred a newer Commissioner come in with radical new ideas and approaches, rather than "hey, I'm going to make this place 40% better over the next 10 years". We don't need gradual at this point. We need a huge jolt. Notre Dame would have been a huge jolt. UCF/USF would have been a huge jolt (and I'm talking about the size of the TV markets, so I don't want to hear the same cvnty porsters who are scared of inviting UCF and USF to the ACC).

I've made this clear. I live in Orlando, about halfway between Miami and F$U. I look at the Spectrum channel lineup in Orlando, and they have FOUR dedicated channels for the Big 10 and SIX dedicated channels for the Pac 12. Meanwhile, I can't even get the SECOND ACC channel (and, yes, I don't want to hear the same cvnty porsters talk about how streaming is the future). Bottom line, we get the majority of our TV money from, you know, ACTUAL TV BROADCASTS. Having an ACC channel that people want to see and want to pay for is what fills our bank account. Not "hey, bro, use a FireStick".

Yes, the ACC needs to win more. But we also need to be in some bigger markets, on more screens, and with greater resources. Those are things that need to be addressed by the ACC Commissioner, not just a "win more" bromide.

And we have a VERY challenging battle here, as most of the ACC footprint (at least the good/money-making schools) overlaps the SEC footprint.

Pac 12 and Big 12 don't overlap much with anyone else.

Not defending the ACCN by any stretch, but it is in it’s infancy compared to the other networks - especially the SEC. The SEC got a huge head start on everyone else and others are still trying to replicate their success; mostly to no avail because the SEC has dominated in football. It’ll be interesting to see if new Commissioner Phillips will be aggressive in pushing expansion of ACCN.

 

[CaneinBroward]

^^^ This.

Do fans remember how bad the Big East was? Did we like beating up Temple, Rutgers, and usually bad Cuse, WVA, and BC? Did we like VT as the only alleged conference rival?

Exactly. One of the reasons why we jumped ship to the ACC. The sad thing is, everyone is blasting the ACC on here so much, but to be honest, much of the ACC's downturn has been due to Miami not holding up its end of the bargain. The same goes for VT and FSU as they were to be consistent top 20 teams as well that have laid low for the past 20 years (for the most part). Thank God for Clemson (I can't believe I just typed that).

It is a new day though. Miami now seems to be putting together the infrastructure to get back to the top of the college football world again. Let's just hope it happens sooner rather than later.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

How are you not cheerleading for UCF and USF? Anyone who disagrees with you that UCF and USF are not the hidden cash cows of college football is "fvcktarded"? Well, gee that would be all of the P5 until Texas and Oklahoma decided to jump ship to the SEC and only then did UCF make the cut. Now, you are saying the ACC should add BOTH to the conference? I'm sorry, I just don't see that moving the needle with TV negotiations.

I tried to look online to see the TV ratings in Orlando when UCF games go against Miami, FSU, or Florida games at the same time and the same with USF in Tampa. I would be shocked if UCF or USF get twice the ratings head to head against a game with the Big 3, but I'm open-minded enough to look at the numbers (I tried to look it up online, but couldn't find it).

If the ACC is to expand, they would want to bring someone who will dramatically increase the TV share per school. Maybe you are right and UCF will dramatically increase the per team TV revenue split in the Big XII. We'll see pretty soon because the Big XII's TV contract is up for renewal in 2025. With Texas and Oklahoma leaving and being replaced by 4 teams, will the Big XII's new TV contract increase the per team split? I doubt it, but I could be wrong.

Plus, call it defective logic, but national TV ratings are what national companies are looking for to advertise their products. The biggest games are broadcast nationally and they will want a big national audience.

One could argue that the "Tobacco Road" strategy of having 4 teams in Florida would not work and you can use the state of Texas as your example. The SWC had 7 Texas schools and Arkansas and guess what? It broke up. The entire state of Texas, the hottest state for college football was totally covered by the SWC and it couldn't make a deal sweet enough to keep Arkansas in the conference and when they left, instead of being strong enough to pull in a replacement for Arkansas, they folded and the best 4 Texas schools joined the Big 8 which turned into the Big XII. The Big XII had 4, then 5 Texas schools and that wasn't enough to keep Texas' top 2 schools from jumping ship to the SEC in a little over 10 years either.

I think you need to find that sweet spot of being regional, but not too local. Part of the ACC's problem is "Tobacco Road". Too many teams in NC. In most states, if you get one of or both of the top 2 public universities in your conference, you have effectively nailed down the state in the eyes of TV networks. The other problem the ACC has is the public schools that it does have are not the 85k+ seat behemoths that occupy much of the Big 10 and SEC (aside from Clemson and FSU - when they are winning). NC and Virginia just don't seem to have that rabid college football fanbase found in other parts of the South and the Midwest. Even GT is miniscule next to UGA and they are a state school as well.

What a dopey post.

I don't give a fvck about whether someone "agrees" or "disagrees". You are entitled to your opinions, even when they are grossly wrong. I said the logic and reasoning are fvcktarded. Pull your feels out of your ****** and be a man about a critique of poor logic.

Again, you throw apples at oranges. Once UCF and USF are playing P5 teams, the ratings in Orlando and Tampa will beat UM games and F$U games and match Florida games, even if they do not currently do so when UCF or USF plays, say, East Carolina. Facts. Waaaaaay too many students and alums of those schools, and this demographic trend (plus actually having a reason to CARE about your alma mater's football team which, in the case of USF, didn't exist more than 25 years ago) is starting to displace the old "I'm gonna root for UF or F$U even though I didn't go to those schools because my school either sucks or doesn't have a team" nonsense.

And your ridiculous point about the impact that UCF is going to have on the Big 12 is mindless. The losses of Texas and Oklahoma are so catastrophic, and UCF is so far outside of the historic Big 12 footprint, that there is no way in **** that the per-school share would go up. The more relevant comparison (if you could handle logic and rational thinking) would be to compare a Texas-less/Oklahoma-less Big 12 to what the Big 12 will be with UCF (and Houston), and in that regard, UCF (and Houston) will save the Big 12 from extinction. But the Big 12 is not going to get nearly as much money as they would have gotten with Texas and Oklahoma. It's just a mathematical impossibility.

You are stuck in looking backwards in your analysis. No need to go on with destroying your silly post point-by-point.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Not defending the ACCN by any stretch, but it is in it’s infancy compared to the other networks - especially the SEC. The SEC got a huge head start on everyone else and others are still trying to replicate their success; mostly to no avail because the SEC has dominated in football. It’ll be interesting to see if new Commissioner Phillips will be aggressive in pushing expansion of ACCN.

You are correct. But just think about this.

Orlando (Spectrum for cable) which is a big market for UF and F$U...

Big 10 Network - first to market - four channels (1192, 1193, 1194, 1195)
SEC Network - second to market - two channels (1150 and 1191)
Pac 12 Network - third to market - six channels (1198, 1199, 1299, 1201, 1202, 1203)
ACC Network - last to market - one channel (1187, and keep in mind that 1188 and 1189 are open channels)

So what I'm saying is this. I could understand the Big 10 getting a lot of early real estate. Then the SEC Network comes along, and even with The University of Flagship being located in Florida, why does the SEC not get more than 2 channels? Maybe they just didn't ask for it.

Now the Pac 12 rolls into town. Could not be FARTHER from Florida, but SIX channels? WTF?

And then the ACC finally shows up for late registration, just before the drop-add deadline. I can understand if we only get one channel, BUT TWO OTHERS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE DIAL. And we have two football programs in-state. At a bare minimum, I would expect the alternate channel. And, in fact, during the first few days that the channels were added to Spectrum, I DID ACTUALLY HAVE THE ACC ALTERNATE CHANNEL.

The point is, these channels are a product of NEGOTIATION. Clearly, there are enough channels on the dial. Clearly, this is not being determined SOLELY on which teams/conferences are in markets (hence, the 10 channels devoted to the Rose Bowl conferences).

Ultimately, the ACC needs a better commissioner, someone who will prioritize the ACCN and its cable carriage. One who will get us on every cable/satellite/streaming service used in this country.

No more Jefferson Pilot. Time to sit at the adults' table. If not, our money will CONTINUE to lag the SEC and the Big 10, at least, and maybe even the Pac 12.

 

[CaneinBroward]

What a dopey post.

I don't give a fvck about whether someone "agrees" or "disagrees". You are entitled to your opinions, even when they are grossly wrong. I said the logic and reasoning are fvcktarded. Pull your feels out of your ****** and be a man about a critique of poor logic.

Again, you throw apples at oranges. Once UCF and USF are playing P5 teams, the ratings in Orlando and Tampa will beat UM games and F$U games and match Florida games, even if they do not currently do so when UCF or USF plays, say, East Carolina. Facts. Waaaaaay too many students and alums of those schools, and this demographic trend (plus actually having a reason to CARE about your alma mater's football team which, in the case of USF, didn't exist more than 25 years ago) is starting to displace the old "I'm gonna root for UF or F$U even though I didn't go to those schools because my school either sucks or doesn't have a team" nonsense.

And your ridiculous point about the impact that UCF is going to have on the Big 12 is mindless. The losses of Texas and Oklahoma are so catastrophic, and UCF is so far outside of the historic Big 12 footprint, that there is no way in **** that the per-school share would go up. The more relevant comparison (if you could handle logic and rational thinking) would be to compare a Texas-less/Oklahoma-less Big 12 to what the Big 12 will be with UCF (and Houston), and in that regard, UCF (and Houston) will save the Big 12 from extinction. But the Big 12 is not going to get nearly as much money as they would have gotten with Texas and Oklahoma. It's just a mathematical impossibility.

You are stuck in looking backwards in your analysis. No need to go on with destroying your silly post point-by-point.

Man, what is it with you and the petty, personal shots? Get your feels out of your ****** and quit being so sensitive when others have differing opinions and back them up with facts. I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt about UCF and USF not playing enough P5 teams, but what about when they have played P5 teams while playing against a FSU, Miami, or Florida game? What are the ratings in Orlando/Tampa? I mean, if they are so HUGE and popular in their home TV markets, should it even matter who they are playing? I mean, when Miami plays a G5 team does the Miami game have a lower TV rating than a FSU or Florida game played at the same time in the Miami market? Personally, I doubt it, but I'd like to know.

UCF and USF could be sleeping giants, but frankly, the ACC doesn't have the time to wait the 5 - 10 years for them to become national TV ratings draws. The Big 12 has no other choice. Hopefully for UCF's sake, they take advantage of the situation. If so, the Big 12 will remain part of the P5. Otherwise, if Cincy, BYU, UCF, and Houston don't move the needle enough to keep the Big 12 competitive in the TV $ race, it will become part of a new G5+1.

Instead of dumping personal attacks, get some answers other than reacting emotionally when your feelings are hurt because someone dares to have a different opinion than you. For someone who finds those schools annoying as you say, you seem to be extremely sensitive to anyone questioning them.

 

[BS85]

The last ACC commish was beyond useless

 

[grover]

I thought we were trying to move to the BiG. What happened to that?

No fing way should we want UCF or USF in our conference. FSU is bad enough. Their academics are not representative of the rest of the conference. If you want good markets go peel off Rutgers. Definitely bring ND fully in. If you want a crappy academic school in a big market, better to get Temple than UCF or USF.

 

[Bender]

The ACC has absolutely ****canned every program with making a long-term deal that does not adjust for increase in TV rating or market value. The current TV deal of the ACC is a 20 year deal running till 2036. Its so insanely stupid to make such a long term deal and it needs to be reworked asap.

 

[Rellyrell]

Not defending the ACCN by any stretch, but it is in it’s infancy compared to the other networks - especially the SEC. The SEC got a huge head start on everyone else and others are still trying to replicate their success; mostly to no avail because the SEC has dominated in football. It’ll be interesting to see if new Commissioner Phillips will be aggressive in pushing expansion of ACCN.

And The SEC can thank UT for that. Texas got the jump on everyone; it’s the divide that caused so much angst w/ A&M & other members of the Big 12. Texas was way ahead of the curve, & The SEC took both the financial & politic example of UT & made sure their entire conference was flushed w/ TV rights $$.

 

[Rellyrell]

I thought we were trying to move to the BiG. What happened to that?

No fing way should we want UCF or USF in our conference. FSU is bad enough. Their academics are not representative of the rest of the conference. If you want good markets go peel off Rutgers. Definitely bring ND fully in. If you want a crappy academic school in a big market, better to get Temple than UCF or USF.

Yeah; all of the full or half members of the ACC r ranked in the top 80, Nationally Academically (however I do not like Miami being tied w/ FSU for 55th.)

From a logistical & academic standpoint, I would try to snag Maryland & Rutgers to join the ACC. Maryland being an OG ACC team, & Rutgers being a former rival & Big East opponent along the Atlantic line. I think UCF is more geared for P5 than USF.

 

[NorthEastCane]

Yeah; all of the full or half members of the ACC r ranked in the top 80, Nationally Academically (however I do not like Miami being tied w/ FSU for 55th.)

From a logistical & academic standpoint, I would try to snag Maryland & Rutgers to join the ACC. Maryland being an OG ACC team, & Rutgers being a former rival & Big East opponent along the Atlantic line. I think UCF is more geared for P5 than USF.

Rutgers is not going to bring much viewership up here. Nobody seems to care except for alumni. Regionally, there's been no historically good teams since football started using face masks. The closest is Penn State. The ACC lost a major opportunity to increase their footprint in the North East when they joined the Big 10.

However, people will watch national brands. When we were good, many local sports bars I've frequented were packed for UM games rooting for us and against us. I don't know what went down when Penn State went to the Big 10 and I know it's not going to happen, but if I would pay whatever it takes to poach Penn State. Then simultaneously get some leverage to force Notre Dame to make the move. That would change the whole dynamic of the ACC.

 

[DTP]

There’s nothing in the world lamer than UF fans chanting “sec, sec” after Alabama wins yet another title. Let’s get that straight. Basking in the glow of conference rivals’ successes is the lamest garbage in all of sports. But…..

It does make a huge difference financially for everyone if the entire conference is better. I’m going to keep this strictly football because I don’t really know how it works in basketball and no other sport actually makes money. Bowl payouts get split between all 14 teams. So obviously, the more bowl games your conference participates in, the better. The bigger the bowl game, the bigger the payout and the more money everyone gets to enjoy. Clemson being in the playoffs and national title games is a huge deal for the conference not just in terms of optics but financially. It would be beneficial to everyone in the ACC if the traditional powers (Miami and FSU) could stop sucking and start playing in big bowl games again. The problem is, the ACC has tied their own teams’ hands behind their back with the worst TV contract in the P5. We’re expected to compete with the SEC and Big 10 but our TV deal pays like we’re the Big12 without Texas and Oklahoma. Everyone knows it’s an arms race and the ACC has a .22 rifle while the other P5 programs have bazookas. Maybe a TV deal could be renegotiated but the conference has to give broadcasters a reason to pay more. The big brand programs need to carry their weight. A Pitt/Wake championship game won’t move the needle. If they want to bring in another team it should be Notre Dame or bust Nobody nationally cares if the ACC adds another middling program. The conference is already full of occasional winners who never compete nationally. Another 7 win program is pointless.

 

[423Hurricane]

You are correct. But just think about this.

Orlando (Spectrum for cable) which is a big market for UF and F$U...

Big 10 Network - first to market - four channels (1192, 1193, 1194, 1195)
SEC Network - second to market - two channels (1150 and 1191)
Pac 12 Network - third to market - six channels (1198, 1199, 1299, 1201, 1202, 1203)
ACC Network - last to market - one channel (1187, and keep in mind that 1188 and 1189 are open channels)

So what I'm saying is this. I could understand the Big 10 getting a lot of early real estate. Then the SEC Network comes along, and even with The University of Flagship being located in Florida, why does the SEC not get more than 2 channels? Maybe they just didn't ask for it.

Now the Pac 12 rolls into town. Could not be FARTHER from Florida, but SIX channels? WTF?

And then the ACC finally shows up for late registration, just before the drop-add deadline. I can understand if we only get one channel, BUT TWO OTHERS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE DIAL. And we have two football programs in-state. At a bare minimum, I would expect the alternate channel. And, in fact, during the first few days that the channels were added to Spectrum, I DID ACTUALLY HAVE THE ACC ALTERNATE CHANNEL.

The point is, these channels are a product of NEGOTIATION. Clearly, there are enough channels on the dial. Clearly, this is not being determined SOLELY on which teams/conferences are in markets (hence, the 10 channels devoted to the Rose Bowl conferences).

Ultimately, the ACC needs a better commissioner, someone who will prioritize the ACCN and its cable carriage. One who will get us on every cable/satellite/streaming service used in this country.

No more Jefferson Pilot. Time to sit at the adults' table. If not, our money will CONTINUE to lag the SEC and the Big 10, at least, and maybe even the Pac 12.

No argument from me on any of your points. I still believe the ACCN is a fledgling network trying to find it’s way. Could they be more aggressive in expanding their reach? Certainly and I won’t make any excuses for them, but maybe the transition from Swafford to Phillips is taking time to sort out priorities. I think it’s yet to be seen whether or not Phillips will aggressively seek expansion of the network.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Man, what is it with you and the petty, personal shots? Get your feels out of your ****** and quit being so sensitive when others have differing opinions and back them up with facts. I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt about UCF and USF not playing enough P5 teams, but what about when they have played P5 teams while playing against a FSU, Miami, or Florida game? What are the ratings in Orlando/Tampa? I mean, if they are so HUGE and popular in their home TV markets, should it even matter who they are playing? I mean, when Miami plays a G5 team does the Miami game have a lower TV rating than a FSU or Florida game played at the same time in the Miami market? Personally, I doubt it, but I'd like to know.

UCF and USF could be sleeping giants, but frankly, the ACC doesn't have the time to wait the 5 - 10 years for them to become national TV ratings draws. The Big 12 has no other choice. Hopefully for UCF's sake, they take advantage of the situation. If so, the Big 12 will remain part of the P5. Otherwise, if Cincy, BYU, UCF, and Houston don't move the needle enough to keep the Big 12 competitive in the TV $ race, it will become part of a new G5+1.

Instead of dumping personal attacks, get some answers other than reacting emotionally when your feelings are hurt because someone dares to have a different opinion than you. For someone who finds those schools annoying as you say, you seem to be extremely sensitive to anyone questioning them.

Hilarious. You whine about "petty, personal shots", then you steel my line about your feels? Funny stuff.

You back things up with facts? You mean, when you said you couldn't be bothered to pull TV ratings?

I was at the Miami-UCF game in Orlando. It had MONSTROUS TV ratings in the Orlando market. I know, because I care about those things, and also because I worked at NASCAR at the time, and I was very invested in TV ratings (since TV and radio ratings and advertisements formed part of our state income tax model). Oh, and that was 2009.

Again, I'm not going to go point-by-point, I'm just going to state how ridiculously uninformed your "argument" is. "The ACC doesn't have time to wait the 5-10 years for them to become national TV ratings draws" just illustrates how little you know. You, literally, do not understand these issues. Nobody has to "wait". We are not being paid TV money on a deferred basis. From a contractual standpoint, adding TWO NEW TEAMS, particularly in two Top 20 TV markets, would force a reopening of the TV deal. And the network guys are FAR more knowledgeable about TV ratings than your uniformed generalizations are. The price of a new TV deal would be set IN ADVANCE. Nobody has to wait around "5-10 years". Your comments are just so...factually and logically incorrect.

I don't need to "get some answers". I have far more knowledge in this area than you could possibly know. I have very specific knowledge on how massive TV and radio contracts are negotiated and priced for a major sports property. I know how ratings are monitored.

You keep arriving at stupid conclusions (the Big 12 will become part of a new G5+1) because you are stuck in an old, outdated way of thinking. And that's fine. Continue to tell yourself you know things, I don't care. But the proof is in the pudding. The Big 12 didn't lose its seat at the CFP table. And while the new Big 12 additions will not grow the already overinflated Big 12 TV contract (remember when the networks paid the Big 12 THE SAME PRICE even though they just lost Nebraska and Mizzou?), the Big 12 is gambling on the NEXT contract. By that time, they will likely have added USF and another school.

Yeah, I'll bet with all your sophisticated knowledge of contracts and finance, you're probably one of the last few guys (falsely) claiming that jumping to adidas "paid UM more" than staying with Nike would have.

I'm done. You just don't get it. You're mad that I destroyed your terrible arguments, so you're going to whine about my harshest individual words. This isn't a battle of opinions, you are entitled to your incorrect opinions. But you can't sit around acting as if adding two Top 20 media markets with universities that have gone from football obscurity to (occasional) Top 25 rankings within a 25 year span is garbage. That's just a lie, even if we all hate UCF and USF on a rivalry basis.

I hate Ohio State and Michigan too, but if the ACC had a chance to get them, we would have to do it. And don't try to invalidate the argument based on "yeah, but they're good at football", because I'd make the argument purely on a demographic and statistical basis. Just because UCF and USF do not have as long and accomplished history playing football does not change the issue. Those two schools are massive and are in massive cities.

End "argument".

 

[Hold My Beer]

There’s nothing in the world lamer than UF fans

 

[MovingZen]

My problem is this **** box disrespectful tobacco slanted conference ****es me off and the best I can wish for other teams is 7-6. Hopefully it doesn't come back to bite us in the ***. I know we need our conference to be strong in the long run, anyone paying attention to college ball has to get that. A stronger conference means more money and greater respect for individual teams. Part of the problem is the conference doesn't get it and keeps up with the stupid **** holding the acc back. The last thing we need is other conferences parroting the 'but they don't play anyone' line when Miami is 11-1 or whatever and trying to get into the playoffs. We all heard it when clemson was making their yearly run at the playoffs and it's all perception. We need to get out of the acc. I don't think there's any possibility of getting the acc to the respect level of the sec. The majority of teams in the acc don't take football seriously. It's a ****** slanted conference that Miami, fsu, and clemson should leave.

 

[Hold My Beer]

I'll be more surprised than not if we don't end up in the same conference with UCF and USF within the next few years or so.

IMO, Clemson and FSU are gonna end up in the S-E-C sooner rather than later. The financial disparities between the $EC and ACC media rights deals will hit $40M to $50M annually in the next couple years. Both those schools fit the SEC model to a 'T' — and collectively they're worth more to ESPN in the SEC than the ACC.

Huge corporations like Disney are looking to consolidate whenever the numbers add up. The GoR ain't gonna be the savior some in the media and elsewhere seem to think.

 

[Hold My Beer]

It's a ****** basketball-slanted conference that Miami, fsu, and clemson should leave.

Yes indeed.

The problem is there's no disputing we don't fit the SEC institutional and cultural model like those other two do.

The other thing is in no way do any of the SEC schools want "F***ing Miami" led by CMC sitting on SoFla's gold mine of talent and re-emerging as a national recruiting power with the support of Mr. Ruiz.

The NCAA "inquiring" about JR's involvement — and the story leaking to the media in the fashion in the did — seems like the first shot in an effort to kneecap the Canes.

Not much of a conspiracy theorist, but IMO we're really gonna see a "Canes vs. Everybody" reality emerge over the next few years.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

I'll be more surprised than not if we don't end up in the same conference with UCF and USF within the next few years or so.

IMO, Clemson and FSU are gonna end up in the S-E-C sooner rather than later. The financial disparities between the $EC and ACC media rights deals will hit $40M to $50M annually in the next couple years. Both those schools fit the SEC model to a 'T' — and collectively they're worth more to ESPN in the SEC than the ACC.

Huge corporations like Disney are looking to consolidate whenever the numbers add up. The GoR ain't gonna be the savior some in the media and elsewhere seem to think.

You are correct. If the SEC honeypot is enough to get Texas and Oklahoma out of the Big 12, it's certainly enough to pull ACC teams too.

 

[Rellyrell]

2021-22 Conference Distributions/team:

-B1G: $57.2

-$EC: $54.3m

-B12: $40.6m

-PAC-12: $34.4m

-ACC: $30.9m

Listen, this is unacceptable. Came across these two interesting articles. Looks like we’re screwed in the ACC even when it comes to CFP.

College Football Playoff Payouts 2022-2023

How much do teams make for the College Football Playoff? We've got the 2021-22 revenue distribution plan plus payouts from past years.

businessofcollegesports.com

Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame and Oklahoma Differ When It Comes To College Football Playoff Payouts

College Football Playoff payouts are distributed very differently from conference to conference.

businessofcollegesports.com

Also, The B12 received $8m off the jump b/c of OKSt & Baylor being in NY6 games.