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Empirical Cane

Empirical Cane

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Ya'll don't want to hear this, but this needs to be said...

Last night's W was great for sure, one that Miami has struggled to get consistently for years and years...however...as with last season's VT and Cal games, this contest could reveal a big problem if Miami doesn't get fixed immediately...

The W against Florida wasn't secured until about 4:11 in 4Q. Despite the stats column domination by Miami, Mario Bro Ball failed to put points on the board w/ only 3/8 (38%) possessions (at that point) putting ticks on the scoreboard. The defense, like the offense last season, had to put forth heroic effort to keep Miami in the game.

Think about this...IF Miami has a miscue on the drive that put them up 19-7...and instead of scoring they fumble, failed to move sticks, etc...and then give ball back to Gheyters w/ 5-ish minutes left...

Gheyters find their footing and march downfield (just like they did 3Q) and go up 14-13...this morning is a VERY different CIS...

Does Miami have a 2 min offense to get the job done??

Now Empy, If my Aunt had a crank she'd be my Uncle right? Give yer balls a tug and enjoy the W! I get it, but remember the cracks, the big cracks, were there against VT and Cal and Louie Louie that basically telegraphed the outcomes of GT and Cuse to us...we just have to watch and listen.

Again, great dub dub by our Canes...but keep your eye on possession-to-points conversion rate going forward. Mario Bro Ball is awesome controlling clock and playing keep away, but one of the Achilles heels is if you don't score, you leave yourself very open to your opponent stealing a W at the end if they hang around just close enough...don't kid yourself...that could very well have happened last night and that drive re-establishing momentum to go up 7-19 could well be the most important drive of the game.

The Miami Hurricanes' motor is running, but the staff and players must refocus and get on the timing on cylinders set or this team is at real risk...

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I really want to emphasize that it was raining through most of the game. It absolutely poured for about an hour right before the game. I think the combination of Florida being very good defensively and the weather being bad for passing the ball is skewing a lot of people's opinions.
 
JHallCanes said:
Same dork told me that last year we were so good on 3rd downs because the rest of the country was better on first and second

So…yeah…
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Calm down Justina...your reading comprehension matches your test tube cleaner bicep size. Your propensity to lie, even when demonstrably provable as false, is enormous though.

Inverse proportions similar to the smallest dog often yaps the loudest.
 
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Have always said stylistically Mario ball is great in big games but over a season always good for head scratching loss also. Can go into Ohio St underdog with injuries and win going away then couple weeks later lose to Stanford. This and Nov swoon will be big to see if we can get over hump. Syracuse stylistically will be tough if they have their qb and he can scratch both off that list later in season.
 
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Yeah last night clearly showed we need Beck to be better to beat more legit teams and we definitely need more from our outside wr's. CJ had a bad game. Marion was barely used, same with Moore. We will need JoJo to step up and the time is 2 weeks away for that hopeful coming out party.
 
They do this every year.

Then we lose once, I had a feeling but didn't want to say anything.
We lose twice, omg I knew along, fire everyone, I been saying this all year that our DBs were trash(They didn't)
 
P-Tizzle said:
This entire thread is based upon things that didn't happen lol
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Real leaders and professionals are responsible to de-brief what did happen as well as the near-misses.

It's those traits that drive an organization/individuals to even greater heights.

Ostriches are content and relieved by with what didn't happen.

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These games were nothing like VT/Cal/Louisville of last season. We needed divine intervention to win 2 of those.
Our passing game had a bad night in a downpour against a good pass defense. Cool, so we put the offense in 4 wheel drive and moved the chains on the ground -- at will.
That's what good teams do, they find ways to win. We are a good team. Are we a great team? Maybe, maybe not.
Will we win the National Championship this year?
Probably not. Do we have a chance? Absolutely. Accept that and enjoy the ride.
 
We have yet to trail in a game this season....

Even last year we trailed in numerous games and just kept coming back to win. The signs last year were the obvious defensive miscues leading to explosive plays, and inability to consistently stop the run. That isn't an issue this year (so far...)

Totally agree things could have gone wrong if we had failed to convert to go up 19-7, but things could have also gone right and the defense could've just stopped them again as they did when Beck threw the interception to McClain.

This is a good team. Not a perfect team, but there is no perfect team out there right now. We have the talent to really do something this year.
 
Empirical Cane said:
Ya'll don't want to hear this, but this needs to be said...

Last night's W was great for sure, one that Miami has struggled to get consistently for years and years...however...as with last season's VT and Cal games, this contest could reveal a big problem if Miami doesn't get fixed immediately...

The W against Florida wasn't secured until about 4:11 in 4Q. Despite the stats column domination by Miami, Mario Bro Ball failed to put points on the board w/ only 3/8 (38%) possessions (at that point) putting ticks on the scoreboard. The defense, like the offense last season, had to put forth heroic effort to keep Miami in the game.

Think about this...IF Miami has a miscue on the drive that put them up 19-7...and instead of scoring they fumble, failed to move sticks, etc...and then give ball back to Gheyters w/ 5-ish minutes left...

Gheyters find their footing and march downfield (just like they did 3Q) and go up 14-13...this morning is a VERY different CIS...

Does Miami have a 2 min offense to get the job done??

Now Empy, If my Aunt had a crank she'd be my Uncle right? Give yer balls a tug and enjoy the W! I get it, but remember the cracks, the big cracks, were there against VT and Cal and Louie Louie that basically telegraphed the outcomes of GT and Cuse to us...we just have to watch and listen.

Again, great dub dub by our Canes...but keep your eye on possession-to-points conversion rate going forward. Mario Bro Ball is awesome controlling clock and playing keep away, but one of the Achilles heels is if you don't score, you leave yourself very open to your opponent stealing a W at the end if they hang around just close enough...don't kid yourself...that could very well have happened last night and that drive re-establishing momentum to go up 7-19 could well be the most important drive of the game.

The Miami Hurricanes' motor is running, but the staff and players must refocus and get on the timing on cylinders set or this team is at real risk...

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If they throw past the sticks on 4th and 3, I think the pucker factor goes from 8 to 11. Probably still win by 2 on a late FG drive but Miami was trying to give the game away. Offense looked like it didn’t practice anything but the rugby scrum. And terrible personnel decisions which Cristobal has done before - don’t know how many times you need to see Bauman look lost before you bench him. He was killing the offense. Hate to pick on a kid but the HC isn’t doing the player any good by leaving him out there to get embarrassed repeatedly.
 
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Empirical Cane said:
Ya'll don't want to hear this, but this needs to be said...

Last night's W was great for sure, one that Miami has struggled to get consistently for years and years...however...as with last season's VT and Cal games, this contest could reveal a big problem if Miami doesn't get fixed immediately...

The W against Florida wasn't secured until about 4:11 in 4Q. Despite the stats column domination by Miami, Mario Bro Ball failed to put points on the board w/ only 3/8 (38%) possessions (at that point) putting ticks on the scoreboard. The defense, like the offense last season, had to put forth heroic effort to keep Miami in the game.

Think about this...IF Miami has a miscue on the drive that put them up 19-7...and instead of scoring they fumble, failed to move sticks, etc...and then give ball back to Gheyters w/ 5-ish minutes left...

Gheyters find their footing and march downfield (just like they did 3Q) and go up 14-13...this morning is a VERY different CIS...

Does Miami have a 2 min offense to get the job done??

Now Empy, If my Aunt had a crank she'd be my Uncle right? Give yer balls a tug and enjoy the W! I get it, but remember the cracks, the big cracks, were there against VT and Cal and Louie Louie that basically telegraphed the outcomes of GT and Cuse to us...we just have to watch and listen.

Again, great dub dub by our Canes...but keep your eye on possession-to-points conversion rate going forward. Mario Bro Ball is awesome controlling clock and playing keep away, but one of the Achilles heels is if you don't score, you leave yourself very open to your opponent stealing a W at the end if they hang around just close enough...don't kid yourself...that could very well have happened last night and that drive re-establishing momentum to go up 7-19 could well be the most important drive of the game.

The Miami Hurricanes' motor is running, but the staff and players must refocus and get on the timing on cylinders set or this team is at real risk...

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This basically happened against ND until a journey man kicker with a Herculean leg that went 4 for 11 at FAU or something like that pulled that game out for him.

The big difference is our defense this year vs last will bail out the offense for a change. Last year this game is probably a loss given same circumstances.

Don’t like that we pull ahead and seem to then go into a shell with the play calling playing not to lose. Definitely a pattern here with Mario.
 
Being there I was most impressed with how it never rained when our defense dominated their offense, but here today, the weather was so bad it impacted our offense at the same exact time theirs was moving the ball on us … 👀

Alternatively, Beck had a bad game, and the shell game almost bit our asses again leaving them in the game.

We won. **** Florida. Beat FSU!
 
TrojanCane said:
These games were nothing like VT/Cal/Louisville of last season. We needed divine intervention to win 2 of those.
Our passing game had a bad night in a downpour against a good pass defense. Cool, so we put the offense in 4 wheel drive and moved the chains on the ground -- at will. That's what good teams do, they find ways to win. We are a good team. Are we a great team? Maybe, maybe not.
Will we win the National Championship this year? Probably not. Do we have a chance? Absolutely. Accept that and enjoy the ride.
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My point was this thematically...

For 5 drives, our Canes made some progress, controlled the ball, etc.. etc...but came up with 0 points.

Nada.

Was it a passing game let down? Run game let down? I dunno.

But from the overall strategy of winning the game, the Gheyters were still very much alive until that score at 4Q/4:11.

Did it feel like it though? Nope. Our Canes were dominating them up and down, but they were clinging to 7-13.

Like the O last year with heroics that masked let downs on D, last night was tbe inverse.

2001 Miami did same thing against BC, but it was a one off. I'd look to last night's Offensive doldrums to also be a one off.

Go Canes.
 
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