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Lane Kiffin on One Change in the Portal

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Agree with him on both points. Portal should be open after season is over to beginning of Winter/Spring camp, then between Winter/Spring camp and Fall camp, and finally for the two weeks between Fall camp and first game kickoff. Should not be allowed during camps and season.

The state-by-state approach to NIL is a bust. The NCAA may not be able to regulate it, but other industry associations set standards and provide advice to lawmakers. Those guys are just a bunch of clowns.
 
grover said:
Agree with him on both points. Portal should be open after season is over to beginning of Winter/Spring camp, then between Winter/Spring camp and Fall camp, and finally for the two weeks between Fall camp and first game kickoff. Should not be allowed during camps and season.

The state-by-state approach to NIL is a bust. The NCAA may not be able to regulate it, but other industry associations set standards and provide advice to lawmakers. Those guys are just a bunch of clowns.
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State laws even come into effect for Pro-Sports. State taxes has always played a part in Athletes preferring teams in states with favorable taxes.
 
Good ideas by Kiffin, but asking the NC2A to do anything is pointless. The NC2A is outside of NIL. They have no enforcement mechanism over state and federal laws.
Always keep in mind that the NC2A can only enforce its own rules. Its rules are not laws, which can only be passed by an elected legislatrue, and in certain instances, the US Supreme Court. As such, the only way the NC2A can have any enforcement mechanism over NIL is if every member institution came together to create a set of rules around current NIL laws. But if the rules provide less freedom and opportunities to players than the state laws or US Supreme Court decision, the enforcement efforts will end up in the courts and the NC2A will lose.
The NC2A has completely lost on this issue. 100%. As an institution, the NC2A has zero authority of any kind over NIL. This is frankly the beginning of the end for an institution that was wholly unable to see into the future and now finds itself in the past.
 
This entire fiasco puts the NCAA's incompetence on display like no other. They were fully on notice that NILs or similar were coming, and had the ability at the time to get ahead of it by leading the way with their own set of rules and guidelines. Federal and State lawmakers made no secret this was the way things were headed.

Instead Emmert and the NCTwoA (miss ya Tark!) completely abdicated their responsibilities and created the clusterfck that currently exists. It's a free for all for the basic reason the NCAA created a vacuum where no rules or guidelines exist, so everybody is doing their own thing.

Only idiots could have looked at the landscape starting several years ago and failed to realize this is where things would end up in the event no NIL rules were promulagted. Sadly, Emmert and the NCAA are such idiots and never gave even token effort at leading on this issue.

One question about your post: If the NCAA were to created comprehensive rules for all member institutions covering NILs, is it really the case that they would be defeated by individual state laws? Or would it be the case that the NCAA would argue that membership is voluntary, and any [particular state and universities within that state not wishing to adhere to NCAA rules can avoid them by simply leaving and playing sports outside the NCAA system? Asked another way, can state law really dictate the rules that national organizations can impose on voluntary members? (subject to Constitutional boundaries of course)
AtlAtty said:
Good ideas by Kiffin, but asking the NC2A to do anything is pointless. The NC2A is outside of NIL. They have no enforcement mechanism over state and federal laws.
Always keep in mind that the NC2A can only enforce its own rules. Its rules are not laws, which can only be passed by an elected legislatrue, and in certain instances, the US Supreme Court. As such, the only way the NC2A can have any enforcement mechanism over NIL is if every member institution came together to create a set of rules around current NIL laws. But if the rules provide less freedom and opportunities to players than the state laws or US Supreme Court decision, the enforcement efforts will end up in the courts and the NC2A will lose.
The NC2A has completely lost on this issue. 100%. As an institution, the NC2A has zero authority of any kind over NIL. This is frankly the beginning of the end for an institution that was wholly unable to see into the future and now finds itself in the past.
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Does anyone know if a transfer is allowed to participate in off season program and spring practice without being enrolled? If they make you wait till January they’ll miss spring enrollment I would think. The transfers surely want to get settled and participate in spring. Trying to look at it from their perspective.
 
AtlAtty said:
Good ideas by Kiffin, but asking the NC2A to do anything is pointless. The NC2A is outside of NIL. They have no enforcement mechanism over state and federal laws.
Always keep in mind that the NC2A can only enforce its own rules. Its rules are not laws, which can only be passed by an elected legislatrue, and in certain instances, the US Supreme Court. As such, the only way the NC2A can have any enforcement mechanism over NIL is if every member institution came together to create a set of rules around current NIL laws. But if the rules provide less freedom and opportunities to players than the state laws or US Supreme Court decision, the enforcement efforts will end up in the courts and the NC2A will lose.
The NC2A has completely lost on this issue. 100%. As an institution, the NC2A has zero authority of any kind over NIL. This is frankly the beginning of the end for an institution that was wholly unable to see into the future and now finds itself in the past.
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Facts:

The NCAA was exposed butt naked by the Supreme Court. I’ve said this numerous times on here & w/ others; the NCAA could’ve easily put together parameters to mitigate all of this. Now? They r a lion w/ no teeth, acting tough.
 
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AtlAtty said:
Good ideas by Kiffin, but asking the NC2A to do anything is pointless. The NC2A is outside of NIL. They have no enforcement mechanism over state and federal laws.
Always keep in mind that the NC2A can only enforce its own rules. Its rules are not laws, which can only be passed by an elected legislatrue, and in certain instances, the US Supreme Court. As such, the only way the NC2A can have any enforcement mechanism over NIL is if every member institution came together to create a set of rules around current NIL laws. But if the rules provide less freedom and opportunities to players than the state laws or US Supreme Court decision, the enforcement efforts will end up in the courts and the NC2A will lose.
The NC2A has completely lost on this issue. 100%. As an institution, the NC2A has zero authority of any kind over NIL. This is frankly the beginning of the end for an institution that was wholly unable to see into the future and now finds itself in the past.
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It’s almost like they should have considered sharing all that money with the workers. Meh, I won’t mourn them if they implode.
 
Astcloud11 said:
State laws even come into effect for Pro-Sports. State taxes has always played a part in Athletes preferring teams in states with favorable taxes.
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Taxes and standard of living are really the only things state controlled in pro sports. They still have league wide mandates like drug use that rule over everything. The NCAA botched the NIL thing bc they were so sure of themselves winning the battle in court. They were in denial and weren’t prepared for it. And IMO it’s too late to make changes now.
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
Taxes and standard of living are really the only things state controlled in pro sports. They still have league wide mandates like drug use that rule over everything. The NCAA botched the NIL thing bc they were so sure of themselves winning the battle in court. They were in denial and weren’t prepared for it. And IMO it’s too late to make changes now.
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I think they just decided they couldn’t give an inch or they’d lose too much.
 
PalyCane said:
This entire fiasco puts the NCAA's incompetence on display like no other. They were fully on notice that NILs or similar were coming, and had the ability at the time to get ahead of it by leading the way with their own set of rules and guidelines. Federal and State lawmakers made no secret this was the way things were headed.

Instead Emmert and the NCTwoA (miss ya Tark!) completely abdicated their responsibilities and created the clusterfck that currently exists. It's a free for all for the basic reason the NCAA created a vacuum where no rules or guidelines exist, so everybody is doing their own thing.

Only idiots could have looked at the landscape starting several years ago and failed to realize this is where things would end up in the event no NIL rules were promulagted. Sadly, Emmert and the NCAA are such idiots and never gave even token effort at leading on this issue.

One question about your post: If the NCAA were to created comprehensive rules for all member institutions covering NILs, is it really the case that they would be defeated by individual state laws? Or would it be the case that the NCAA would argue that membership is voluntary, and any [particular state and universities within that state not wishing to adhere to NCAA rules can avoid them by simply leaving and playing sports outside the NCAA system? Asked another way, can state law really dictate the rules that national organizations can impose on voluntary members? (subject to Constitutional boundaries of course)
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First and foremost thank you immensely for getting my NC2A reference to the great Jerry Tarkanian.

The problem will be two fold. Number 1 all the NCAA member institutions would have to agree on a comprehensive set of rules which is in itself unlikely since certain schools have a distinct advantage with NIL and won’t want to give that up, and they happen to be the richest schools.
Number 2, individual athletes are now empowered to sue the NC2A if they rules are more restrictive. It won’t be the school suing but the athlete directly. And if enough such lawsuits are happening they could be classified as a class action and open the NC2A to huge verdicts of multi million dollars.
It is such a mess. As you wrote, the abdicated their opportunity to create a payment system.
 
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The Ncaa is thankful for the Nil stuff, that means they don’t have to give up any of their scratch. People will shut up about paying the players.

At this point the Ncaa is like Block buster video 15-20 years ago. “ Let’s just try to cash as many checks as we can until we close shop”. Their days are numbered as an entity. Their job is a lot like Roger Goodell, they’re the bad cop to take bullets aimed at Colleges and Nfl owners.
 
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Cribby said:
The Ncaa is thankful for the Nil stuff, that means they don’t have to give up any of their scratch. People will shut up about paying the players.

At this point the Ncaa is like Block buster video 15-20 years ago. “ Let’s just try to cash as many checks as we can until we close shop”. Their days are numbered as an entity. Their job is a lot like Roger Goodell, they’re the bad cop to take bullets aimed at Colleges and Nfl owners.
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But like blockbuster, they’ll at least try to fight. Nobody just gives up a revenue stream like that.
 
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