Lane is a savage

He accepted the LSU job and went and told Ole Miss. He offered or asked to stay on through the playoff conclusion to coach the team which is respectable because he was trying to keep them in the same situation for the remainder of the year. They said no. He did nothing wrong and neither did they here up to this point. After this it was a cluster.
Ok but I don’t agree with you on that. I think he accepted the job over a week ago and didn’t tell Ole Miss until today. And I don’t think he “asked” to stay. It’s ok we don’t agree on this though. We are both assuming what happened here.
 
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Fair take.

I don't think Mario could land any job he wanted, but teams like Auburn, Penn State, UF, and Arkansas would take him in a heartbeat right now.
I don’t know, maybe. Some of those might have him on a list. Not sure he’d be the leader for any of them. The statement I know you know I responded to was that he could have any job he wants. He’s not getting LSU, Bama, UGA, Ohio State… we’ve still never made the ACCCG.
 
Ok but I don’t agree with you on that. I think he accepted the job over a week ago and didn’t tell Ole Miss until today. And I don’t think he “asked” to stay. It’s ok we don’t agree on this though. We are both assuming what happened here.
Ok but I don’t think he has to tell them the moment he accepted it. They gave him a deadline which he complied with.
 
I don’t know, maybe. Some of those might have him on a list. Not sure he’d be the leader for any of them. The statement I know you know I responded to was that he could have any job he wants. He’s not getting LSU, Bama, UGA, Ohio State… we’ve still never made the ACCCG.

It still pains me that we haven't gone to the ACC championship. We should have gone last year and this year, too. But we are getting better every year.

Looking back at the coaches we wanted in 2022, except Kiffin (who I think is a douche), we did better hiring Mario than we would have with the alternative, Freeze, Herman (I was dead wrong about him), Stoops, and Dykes.
 
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He accepted the LSU job and went and told Ole Miss. He offered or asked to stay on through the playoff conclusion to coach the team which is respectable because he was trying to keep them in the same situation for the remainder of the year. They said no. He did nothing wrong and neither did they here up to this point. After this it was a cluster.
I don’t see anything wrong with what Lane did. He took a better job and the timing was not his choice. It was dictated by these insane mid-season firings, which are a product of the NCAA calendar and the outright insanity of college football right now. I’m sure he would’ve preferred to finish what he started, but also think Ole Miss made the right call.
 
I don’t see anything wrong with what Lane did. He took a better job and the timing was not his choice. It was dictated by these insane mid-season firings, which are a product of the NCAA calendar and the outright insanity of college football right now. I’m sure he would’ve preferred to finish what he started, but also think Ole Miss made the right call.
Yeah we’re mostly in agreement. I think they should have let him stay for their chances but I’m assuming they’re afraid of having him continue when he’s going elsewhere and so they decided that they were better off with him gone. I don’t agree on the surface but I don’t have the info they have. I literally think everyone acted within their rights.

The other day people were wailing on Lane on here that he’s a dirtbag if he leaves in the middle of a playoff run. Well, he is what he is long before this lol but he did offer to stay which I think is a 100% standup thing to do. He should have just left graciously when they said no and thanked them for the opportunity.
 
It still pains me that we haven't gone to the ACC championship. We should have gone last year and this year, too. But we are getting better every year.

Looking back at the coaches we wanted in 2022, except Kiffin (who I think is a douche), we did better hiring Mario than we would have with the alternative, Freeze, Herman (I was dead wrong about him), Stoops, and Dykes.
There was no way they were hiring Lane or Freeze - I liked freeze by the way - and he bombed which surprised me. I was more interested in him than Lane at the time.

Mario frustrates me because he shoots himself in the foot more than once annually. He also incrementally improves and works hard so he’s not a lazy bum at all and I respect him for the work ethic but he’s a meathead of sorts. He needed to get to the ACCCG last year. He need to win it this year. We’re not going there this year like last year. And a lot of the game **** he does is so predictable. The prevent offense and defense. The A gap attack lol when we all know he’s needed to open it up. No he’s opening it up and we’re deadly yet we’ll be sitting home again. It’s unbelievably frustrating.
 
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No but he has every right to take a better job opportunity whenever it comes along. He’s also a far more unique component to Ole Miss than he would be in your corporate example but whatever - he has a right to take the job and ole Miss has a right to move on immediately.
I wouldn’t claim Lane being more unique than my example. What if he were in charge of product development at this corporation, and thought to be one of the best in the business. The rival corporation is struggling, and chooses to try to hire Lane. He is nearing the end of leading a product development cycle. Should his current employer allow him to finish this product line and then jump to their rival along with his staff? Not a far fetched example by any means. Of course, in the corporate world there are often no-compete clauses in contracts. And we can go back-and-forth.

Barring contractual limitations, and assuming all the buyout provisions are met, Lane Kiffin has every right to terminate his employment at Ole Miss in order to take a new position apt LSU.

He’s still an *******. Low character. With every right to be.

Both things can be true.
 
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A lot of these guys can’t separate their fanhood and team loyalty and look at it clinically. It usually ends up with attacks and personal insults. I get where they are coming from. As a kid I’d tell myself what I wanted to hear and wanted to believe what was true and wouldn’t listen to anyone who said differently until I got tired of the same results and disappointments.
I respect your viewpoint, but think you’re being patronizing. My posts are always respectful and I just see it differently than you and Angry Ibis.
 
This is false. He did not quit right before the playoffs. He accepted another job opportunity before the playoffs but offered to finish through completion and they said no. Ole Miss isn’t a victim and neither is Lane.
Agreed to disagree. He quit on the program. Choosing to finish out the season is still quitting, he’s just quit in advance. He also still has years remaining on his contract. Yes, his contract has stipulations for terminating the contract, from my either perspective.

At the end of the day, it’s a business and business decisions were made.
 
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Bro was fired by Al Davis for being a dumbass.

Left like a thief in the night at Tennesee.

Left under questionable conditions at Alabama.

Personally, I think he's an idiot.

He could've established a legacy at Ole Miss. He's leaving $9 million a year at a perfectly contented school.

...To go to LSU which the boosters will be up his *** to win now. Its not gonna work out, hes not winning a chip, and within 3-5 years, he'll be somewhere else.

He may very well be a skilled coach, but so was Bobby Petrino and Urban Meyer.

Human dog****.
 
I personally dont have any issues with him taking another job...thats just the way it goes.

"He should just go graciously at that point which he didn’t."

This is the part I find funny. Dude should have left graciously after they told him no to coaching the playoff. Reguardless its really just entertainment for me.
Yes he should have been an adult about it because he took a job elsewhere and it’s 100% within their right to decline the offer/request and decide to move on immediately.

And I don’t agree with them on this by the way. I think they should have let him continue for their team’s sake. And students and fans as well. I think them getting to the CFB playoff is a massive deal there and because they declined his offer, it’s going to be squandered. Just my opinion though. Dude is shady af but hella entertaining to say the least. Lol
 
Yeah we’re mostly in agreement. I think they should have let him stay for their chances but I’m assuming they’re afraid of having him continue when he’s going elsewhere and so they decided that they were better off with him gone. I don’t agree on the surface but I don’t have the info they have. I literally think everyone acted within their rights.

The other day people were wailing on Lane on here that he’s a dirtbag if he leaves in the middle of a playoff run. Well, he is what he is long before this lol but he did offer to stay which I think is a 100% standup thing to do. He should have just left graciously when they said no and thanked them for the opportunity.
Yeah, the scorched earth approach (if true) was not a good response by Lane. Lane was more conciliatory in his interview, but I personally think he’s a phony. Lane said the AD told him “I have to continue living in Oxford.”
 
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Bro was fired by Al Davis for being a dumbass.

Left like a thief in the night at Tennesee.

Left under questionable conditions at Alabama.

Personally, I think he's an idiot.

He could've established a legacy at Ole Miss. He's leaving $9 million a year at a perfectly contented school.

...To go to LSU which the boosters will be up his *** to win now. Its not gonna work out, hes not winning a chip, and within 3-5 years, he'll be somewhere else.

He may very well be a skilled coach, but so was Bobby Petrino and Urban Meyer.

Human dog****.
I wouldn’t have left if I were him for the pressure reason you gave where he’d be getting huge money still at Ole Miss without the LSU-level booster and fan pressure. But he obviously has drive to win a Natty and he sees LSU as being on a tier to do that more likely as compared to where he’s at.

Another thing people are blowing past and someone will know on here but isn’t there a 4 year contract limit for Mississippi public employees so he can’t get a longterm guarantee whereas at other schools he can lock up a longer term guaranteed deal???
 
Yeah, the scorched earth approach (if true) was not a good response by Lane. Lane was more conciliatory in his interview, but I personally think he’s a phony. Lane said the AD told him “I have to continue living in Oxford.”
What does he mean he has to continue living in Oxford?
 
I wouldn’t have left if I were him for the pressure reason you gave where he’d be getting huge money still at Ole Miss without the LSU-level booster and fan pressure. But he obviously has drive to win a Natty and he sees LSU as being on a tier to do that more likely as compared to where he’s at.

Another thing people are blowing past and someone will know on here but isn’t there a 4 year contract limit for Mississippi public employees so he can’t get a longterm guarantee whereas at other schools he can lock up a longer term guaranteed deal???
Good question. I found the below online:

To work around this limitation for Coach Kiffin's contracts, Ole Miss used a structure that includes:

• A state contract, which is capped by the Mississippi law.
• A second, much larger contract with the Ole Miss Athletics Foundation (OMAF), which funds nearly all of his actual compensation.
• The OMAF contract has utilized provisions like automatic one-year extensions or rollover provisions (sometimes triggered by performance, such as achieving seven regular-season wins) to effectively extend the term beyond the four-year limit without violating the state's four-year cap on the official state employee contract.

This structure allows the university to offer long-term financial security while legally adhering to the four-year contract limit for state employees.
 
Lane kiffin will compete for and win a national championship at LSU!
Yup. 💯 He must want it because he’s leaving an easier job. And he’s got a gold mine now with the in-state loyalty in recruiting to the $25M per year NIL budget… He could keep the same defensive staff that LSU has now and be good there.
 
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