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TheOriginalCane said:
People have to stop living in the past when it comes to academics and UM. The world has changed. The rules have changed.

While Prop 48 is still a rule, it's not the same rule that it once was. It used to mean that a kid would have to sit out his first year, but the APR rules have changed things significantly. For instance, I tutored Horace Copeland in his first year at UM when he could not play. He went to Evans High School in Orlando which, at the time, was the next school district over from mine (Lake Brantley). Sadly, I was in a very good Seminole County school and he was in a very bad Orange County school. In order to be ready to take his business calculus class, he had to take a remedial/preparatory math class, because Evans hadn't prepared him well. In the old days, that Prop 48 year allowed a kid to remediate the crappy high school education he may have had, but now a year like that will fail to qualify as APR, since none of those classes count towards the major.

The reality these days is a lot more complex. A kid can retake a bunch of classes that he failed in freshman and sophomore years, and while the GPA can be increased, there is nothing that substitutes for particular coursework. So if a kid is not ready to take business calc (which is a 100-level course at UM, and it is also a prerequisite for other courses), then the kid is not ready to make academic progress. And we can sit here and claim that F$U can "take" those kids, but the truth is that F$U has the lowest APR rate, and if Willie doesn't do something to change that, F$U will fall into the penalty area of the APR rules.

This stuff is not easy. The transfer portal is complicating matters too, as we lose all control over APR when a kid leaves UM, we may HOPE he will graduate, but we have no leverage to make it happen.

This is no longer about UM's "admission standards" from a GPA/SAT standpoint. What is actually going on is that ALL Division I-A schools have to be worried about APR (OK, maybe not Marshall). F$U may have been able to erase a few risky guys with the Myron Rolles of the world, but that isn't quite working out the way it once did.

Times have changed. Schools have to evaluate total transcripts now, not just GPA/SAT numbers.
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Watched Horace play in HS....Maannnn...
I speak to his brother every weekend...He works at Publix (Grocery Manager) close to where I live...Looks like Horace's Twin...
 
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I get Knighton being tempted by F$U's depth chart, but has he seen their OL situation?

It doesn't look like its getting better anytime soon, and he wants to play right away...

If he has confidence in himself, he shouldn't be too concerned with depth charts, and start focusing more on the people who are going to make or break his college career and could help keep him healthier until he gets to the NFL and that is the OL.

Now I'm not saying we have the best OL and he should choose us, b/c we got work to do on the OL too (but nothing like F$U).

But he would have to be an absolute idiot to go to F$U to play behind that garbage OL that could get him killed out there.

I just don't see him choosing us, b/c of our depth chart, and b/c he is an elite Deerfield kid that we want bad (don't bring up Restrepo as he hasn't even played a game for them yet and is not considered a "Deerfield kid").



I would be absolutely thrilled to be dead wrong here and he signs with us, giving us the best RB class in the nation with Chaney and Knighton, then try like **** to hold onto Franklin next cycle, but that all seems like way too good to be true, and we have been down this road before.

Remember when we had Scarlet, Williams and Cronkrite committed for one class then Walton reclassified, and we all kept thinking we would find a way to keep them all.

Williams dipped b/c it was too crowded, Cronkrite was feeling slow played and we wanted him on defense, Scarlet got Bagged and we only ended up with Walton who ended up being the best of the bunch, but Scarlet definitely would have done some damage here too especially without getting caught up in all the crime UiF players get into and get suspended.
 
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tyrn said:
I get Knighton being tempted by F$U's depth chart, but has he seen their OL situation?

It doesn't look like its getting better anytime soon, and he wants to play right away...

If he has confidence in himself, he shouldn't be too concerned with depth charts, and start focusing more on the people who are going to make or break his college career and could help keep him healthier until he gets to the NFL and that is the OL.

Now I'm not saying we have the best OL and he should choose us, b/c we got work to do on the OL too (but nothing like F$U).

But he would have to be an absolute idiot to go to F$U to play being that garbage OL that could get him killed out there.

I just don't see him choosing us, b/c of our depth chart, and b/c he is an elite Deerfield kid that we want bad (don't bring up Restrepo as he hasn't even played a game for them yet and is not considered a "Deerfield kid").



I would be absolutely thrilled to be dead wrong here and he signs with us, giving us the best RB class in the nation with Chaney and Knighton, then try like **** to hold onto Franklin next cycle, but that all seems like way too good to be true, and we have been down this road before.

Remember when we had Scarlet, Williams and Cronkrite committed for one class then Walton reclassified, and we all kept thinking we would find a way to keep them all.

Williams dipped b/c it was too crowded, Cronkrite was feeling slow played and we wanted him on defense, Scarlet got Bagged and we only ended up with Walton who ended up being the best of the bunch, but Scarlet definitely would have done some damage here too especially without getting caught up in all the crime UiF players get into and get suspended.
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A kid signing up to play at FSU in 2020 does not mean he's signing up to play behind their 2018 offensive line.
 
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tyrn said:
It might be even worse with their recruiting and development at OL over there under Willie.
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It’ll be better this year because it literally can’t be worse. And I’m not trying to be funny. There is no way to have a worse line than they did in 2018, they had 3 linemen ranked in the bottom 10 or 15 in the entire country. Out of something like 550+ OL. They’ll be better. Problem is, it’s nearly impossible to make a leap like they’ll need to make to be good. I know he’s generally awful, but Bud Elliott made some good points recently on a podcast. Basically said they need to try to just be bad to below average. They can’t be average or good or great. You can’t make that leap in 1 year. But try to go from the worst P5 line by a mile, to maybe bottom third. And they might do that. It’s feasible. But a bottom third line is still ******, and they’re still going to struggle a lot because of it.
 
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