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Kirby Smart - Still a Corch?

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cookies said:
Big facts. The final score is the only real result at the end of the day.

The what if game is dudes hating from outside the club when they cant even get in type vibe
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Exactly. Speaking of; I remember I got into the one club in Vegas w/ a dress code of no sneakers. I had on J’s & got in b/c I knew the guys who were running the promotion. I specifically remember this dude trying to hate & and asked how I was getting in (b/c he was denied for having some sneakers on), & my boy said b/c I know him & he’s my people. So dude goes, so if I knew u, u wouldn’t be harassing me about my shoes? My reply; my guy, but u don’t.

F the what if; are u in or not? If not, stfu.
 
Rellyrell said:
Agreed, & upsets can & will happen even to the best, but to put this in to further context:

Here’s Kirby’s worst losses:

5-7 Ole Miss, 6-7 Vandy (2016)
4-8 USCe (2019)

In 7 yrs, Kirby has had 3 bad losses. We’ll call that an anomaly or an upset special. Coker had 7 bad losses in 4 yrs despite talent discrepancies. That’s y I’m of the opinion is not just about Jimmy & Joes, it’s also about X’s & O’s. If it was strictly about Jimmy & Joes, then my friend, Miami would be the poster child of the ACC Coastal & Texas would be the poster child of the Big 12.

Imo, coaching can overcome Jimmy & Joes b/c Utah taught me that. Harbaugh at SDSU taught me that. Meyer at Utah & Bowling Green taught me that. Chip Kelly at Oregon & now UCLA taught me that. But those guys have a glass ceiling w/o the Jimmy & Joes; but once, a good coach have access to those Jimmy & Joes, it’s a wrap. Talent can overcome coaching deficiencies for so long.
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I think it's a combination of things, and I think kirby might be proving it. If I remember correctly there were a few things he did in his early HC years that made him look real bad in game. Having the best of everything sure can make a guy look good. If I have the fastest bike on the planet I will win the large majority of my races. But if a really good rider shows up, I can be beat.. or if another dude shows up on the same bike I better be able to ride or I'll get beat. My point being, having the best bike on the planet sure does make me look good whether I deserve it or not.
 
Kirby had 1 fewer win than Richt’s previous season. This is normal, and the fact that we had 2 fewer wins than Diaz’ final season should not be causing people to call Mario a corch. Back off the ledge and give Mario a couple of recruiting cycles. I don’t need an offensive Houdini to cover up our deficiencies.
 
JimmyJohnsonsHair said:
This thread would look much different if the Ohio State kicker didn't choke.
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I’m sure we can all appreciate your point.

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Rellyrell said:
My point is that Coker won one Nat’l title, but despite all the talent that was accumulated via recruiting from 2002-2005 (#5, #4, #3, #9 ranked classes)

We lost
-To a 8-5 VT team (2003)

-Back to back games to a 6-6 UNC & 6-5 Clemson teams (2004)

-To an 8-5 FSU & 7-5 GT teams (2005)

-To a 7-6 FSU, a then G5 UL, THEN losing 4 in a row that included to a 5-7 UVA team (2006)

Let me ask u, with those classes, do u think Kirby or Saban r losing to these squads that Coker lost to?
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I fully believe Saban/Kirby could've won a few of those games we lost. But our rankings didn't match our actual talent at that point.

In 2005 our starting offense was:

QB - Kyle Wright (#3 overall recruit)
RB - Tyrone Moss (#31 overall recruit) / Charlie Jones (#37 overall recruit)
WR - Ryan Moore (#3 overall recruit) / Sinorice Moss (#567 overall recruit)

I just don't know how much more Saban/Kirby could've done with those guys. Instead of 3 losses we're probably 2 losses. Maybe 1, but that feels like a stretch

Mack Brown isn't the same level coach, but 05 Texas would destroy us no matter who the coach would be..
 
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aelmiami said:
Three coaches have won back to back titles in the modern era. Osborne, Saban and now Smart. Doesn’t matter if he just collects talent and out talents everyone. Urban was unable to do this, so was Dabo. Smart isn’t corch no matter how much we don’t want to admit it.
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Realistically, Larry Coker should be on that list.
 
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