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Kirby Smart - Still a Corch?

TimeBum said:
Sure would have been nice if UM had considered hiring a highly regarded coordinator from a championship caliber program instead of immediately zeroing on a former player without conducting a proper coaching search. I couldn't understand why anyone thought hiring a coach who had been fired because he consistently fell short of expectations (and despite having almost unlimited resources) was a good idea.
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Smart was a former player UGA hired without conducting a search tho lol At least Mario had some success as a HC. UGA finally started putting more money in the program which they didn't with Richt. Sound familiar?
 
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Noliaboi said:
Just wondering. I think some called him a Corch. Anyway Georgia will be the new SEC power for a while.

Now let’s win this for Richt!!!
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He was always a corch like Nick they just hide behind talent like most elite coaches who win natties in modern day cfb. They will say the same about Mario but when hes in stack mode we will be good. But since they think he's a corch and want to be right they will stay on the he can't win a big game narrative till the wheels come off. No one in the NFL trying to hire Mario off us cause they understand he's a talent stacker and those are the best coaches in cfb talent stackers. When it comes to winning titles those are the best HCs to have at programs willing to spend. The genius play callers like Riler deserve NFL jobs cause NFL has more parity and certain amount of draft slots.
U can't stack unless your gm is amazing. Coaches get fired in the NFL cause of the roster. U could be firing a good HC but he doesn't have the talent and u have to be lucky where u pick and who's in that particular draft. It's still about talent to put a good NFL team together. Bill without Brady is a disaster anyone with a brain knew that
 
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GojiraCane said:
He's going to be the first modern coach to 3-peat next year.
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I’ll take a shot and say “no”.
I know the schedule is easier but they were a fade (instead of a hook) away from being knocked out last week.

For those against the 12 team format, there’s a better chance of getting the 4 best teams in the semi’s and not having games like last night.
 
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NJshoreCane said:
I’ll take a shot and say “no”.

I know the schedule is easier but they were a fade (instead of a hook) away from being knocked out last week.
If anything, with the 12 team format, there’s a better chance of getting the 4 best teams in the semi’s.
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12 team playoff doesn’t begin until the 2024-2025 season
 
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I'll admit I was wrong. I didn't have a very high opinion of him, but I'd say he's more than proven himself.
 
Andrew said:
He didn’t adjust. He recruited the players to run the system he wants.
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Super wrong.

He inherited Jim Chaney, and being a first-time coach with no real coaching tree, he kept him for Year 1 at UGA. Chaney then left to go to Tennessee, and he promoted James Coley to run the offense. Obviously, the offense was predictably horrendous in 2019, and he demoted Coley and hired Todd Monken, who had been an NFL offensive coordinator for the past 4 seasons.

Year 1 was a transition for everyone, as it oftentimes is. He went 8-5, lost to Vanderbilt between the hedges, and many in Athens thought UGA made a major mistake. Well, in a really bizarre move, the brass at UGA decided to maybe giving him more than 1 year before scheduling his funeral, and he started to figure some stuff out, and make some better hires while continuing to use what he learned about recruiting under Nick Saban. The rest is history.

There's a lesson here for all of us. Maybe, just MAYBE, shut the **** up for a season and allow a coach to actually do what he wants to do before you freak out like toddler. Nobody here will adhere, but just some food for thought.
 
TXCANE4 said:
Need to change your name to Nostradamus
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Nostradamus because he said back in 2017 UGA would have a great football team?

That’s not a stretch. Smart inherited a very talented team from Richt and recruited much better than Richt did. Anybody that didn’t think they would continue to be great and get even better were either blind or being willfully ignorant.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Super wrong.

He inherited Jim Chaney, and being a first-time coach with no real coaching tree, he kept him for Year 1 at UGA. Chaney then left to go to Tennessee, and he promoted James Coley to run the offense. Obviously, the offense was predictably horrendous in 2019, and he demoted Coley and hired Todd Monken, who had been an NFL offensive coordinator for the past 4 seasons.

Year 1 was a transition for everyone, as it oftentimes is. He went 8-5, lost to Vanderbilt between the hedges, and many in Athens thought UGA made a major mistake. Well, in a really bizarre move, the brass at UGA decided to maybe giving him more than 1 year before scheduling his funeral, and he started to figure some stuff out, and make some better hires while continuing to use what he learned about recruiting under Nick Saban. The rest is history.

There's a lesson here for all of us. Maybe, just MAYBE, shut the **** up for a season and allow a coach to actually do what he wants to do before you freak out like toddler. Nobody here will adhere, but just some food for thought.
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the only thing ill say is he made changes to the staff mutliple times over. we hope mario can do that to fix his mistakes. also, the D side of the ball was always elite with kirby so it allowed to succeed even when they were trash on O until they brought in monken and got bowers on campus
 
hoops156 said:
the only thing ill say is he made changes to the staff mutliple times over. we hope mario can do that to fix his mistakes. also, the D side of the ball was always elite with kirby so it allowed to succeed even when they were trash on O until they brought in monken and got bowers on campus
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Trash on O when they had Chubb, Michel, and Swift running wild?
 
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ddann said:
Trash on O when they had Chubb, Michel, and Swift running wild?
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trash on O when they couldn't figure out a way to use fields and had a pedestrian passing offense with a ton of great skill talent on the roster
 
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Here is a look at the National Championship teams since the 2015, including where they ranked in the team talent composite and how many five-star were on the roster:



• 2015: Alabama - No. 1 overall with 15 5-stars


• 2016: Clemson - No. 9 overall with four 5-stars

• 2017: Alabama - No. 1 overall with 18 5-stars

• 2018: Clemson - No. 6 overall with nine 5-stars

• 2019: LSU - No. 5 overall with seven 5-stars

• 2020: Alabama - No. 2 overall with 12 5-stars

• 2021: Georgia - No. 2 overall with 14 5-stars

• 2022: Georgia - No. 2 overall with 15 5-stars
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Super wrong.

He inherited Jim Chaney, and being a first-time coach with no real coaching tree, he kept him for Year 1 at UGA. Chaney then left to go to Tennessee, and he promoted James Coley to run the offense. Obviously, the offense was predictably horrendous in 2019, and he demoted Coley and hired Todd Monken, who had been an NFL offensive coordinator for the past 4 seasons.

Year 1 was a transition for everyone, as it oftentimes is. He went 8-5, lost to Vanderbilt between the hedges, and many in Athens thought UGA made a major mistake. Well, in a really bizarre move, the brass at UGA decided to maybe giving him more than 1 year before scheduling his funeral, and he started to figure some stuff out, and make some better hires while continuing to use what he learned about recruiting under Nick Saban. The rest is history.

There's a lesson here for all of us. Maybe, just MAYBE, shut the **** up for a season and allow a coach to actually do what he wants to do before you freak out like toddler. Nobody here will adhere, but just some food for thought.
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not comparable.. Mario went 5-7 and took us BACKWARDS this year...

Kirby went 8-5 then 13-2.... and then in 2019 with that "predicably horrendous" offense they still went 12-2 AND Kirby STILL got rid of Coley...

You think there's ANY chance Mario gets rid of an OC after going 12-2?
 
Yoyo82 said:
not comparable.. Mario went 5-7 and took us BACKWARDS this year...

Kirby went 8-5 then 13-2.... and then in 2019 with that "predicably horrendous" offense they still went 12-2 AND Kirby STILL got rid of Coley...

You think there's ANY chance Mario gets rid of an OC after going 12-2?
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Who cares? We sucked last year. We’ve sucked for 20 years. We sucked this year. Backwards, forwards, idgaf. Let the man do his job. If we’re losing to middle Tennessee state and going .500 in the ACC in year 3, then off with his head. But have some perspective for what we’ve been for 2 decades.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Who cares? We sucked last year. We’ve sucked for 20 years. We sucked this year. Backwards, forwards, idgaf. Let the man do his job. If we’re losing to middle Tennessee state and going .500 in the ACC in year 3, then off with his head. But have some perspective for what we’ve been for 2 decades.
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who cares? hopefully all of us fans care...

you're the one comparing the situations suggesting that being patient for Kirby has paid off so being patient for Mario will also pay off... as if being patient after 8-5 and 12-2 is the same as being patient after 5-7...

if Mario went 8-5 this year, there would be a lot more patience for him.. but going 5-7 has sowed a TON of doubt for those of us who were die hard supporters just a year ago.... I had my concerns with Mario but 100% believed he was the right man to lead us back to prominence.. but this year was such a disaster in so many ways there's no way to just overlook it and assume he's still the right guy without any doubt at all... he needs to earn that confidence back by making moves/decisions that show massive improvement and growth and not reinforce the doubts/concerns and narrative that many have of him....
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Super wrong.

He inherited Jim Chaney, and being a first-time coach with no real coaching tree, he kept him for Year 1 at UGA. Chaney then left to go to Tennessee, and he promoted James Coley to run the offense. Obviously, the offense was predictably horrendous in 2019, and he demoted Coley and hired Todd Monken, who had been an NFL offensive coordinator for the past 4 seasons.

Year 1 was a transition for everyone, as it oftentimes is. He went 8-5, lost to Vanderbilt between the hedges, and many in Athens thought UGA made a major mistake. Well, in a really bizarre move, the brass at UGA decided to maybe giving him more than 1 year before scheduling his funeral, and he started to figure some stuff out, and make some better hires while continuing to use what he learned about recruiting under Nick Saban. The rest is history.

There's a lesson here for all of us. Maybe, just MAYBE, shut the **** up for a season and allow a coach to actually do what he wants to do before you freak out like toddler. Nobody here will adhere, but just some food for thought.
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So he changed O Coordinators 2 or 3 times in 4 years? I'm trying to nail down the exact timeline of his Offensive Coordinator firings and hiring's
 
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