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Jassid82 said:
JHallCanes said:
The Franchise said:
Teams lose faith and trust in a HC when they know he's full of ****. Al carried on before the game about how ready Kaaya was and how confident everyone was and how we were going to punish them with the pass if they stacked the box. Then, it was completely obvious none of that was true once the game started.

He's full of ****, and they know he speaks with a forked tongue. He puffed everyone up on how we were going to run a dangerous high octane offense with Kaaya, and then he turtled up like a fat pu$$y and made it impossible for the offense to succeed.

If you start a freshman over a 5th year guy, then you better run the full offense with him. If you don't, then all those playmakers on offense feel like you cheated them and sold them a box of diarrhea.
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This is exactly what I was thinking. Who gives a **** who they support? In every QB competition across the country, there is going to be some kind of division on the matter. Too ****ing bad.

When it comes to blows is when the people making the decision show such intolerable ineptitude that it just ****es everyone off. I'm sure if the coaches said "hey guys, we are going to start Kaaya and call as many play options as Madden 93......" then I'm sure the backlash would have been heated.
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The first paragraph I dont agree with. Contrary to what is said on here..the only people who actually REALLY know what is going on is the players/coaches. Yeah Dmoney and a few other guys saw a few practices but these players know whats up. Maybe they knew that if Kaaya was going to be the QB that they were going to shrink the playbook. These players know what Kaaya can and cant do. Im not saying Heaps would have been any better and im definitely not blaming Kaaya, but i will be damned to play out the rest of the season with the playbook we used on Monday night just because we want to see Kaaya play. If thats the case, then f it, go with Heaps/Williams and see whats up..

And players having the support of the QB is a pretty big deal if you ask me. If they know the kids not ready.....and the coach sticks him out there anyway.......
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I guess maybe my first point wasn't that clear. In a competition like that you will always have guys divided. It's up to the faith in the coaches for these guys to suck it up and do their jobs. Now the gray area here is we don't know who said what, or to what extent, so it's mostly just guessing. What I'm saying is if the competition really was that close and these guys were told beforehand that the playbook would be reduced, they have a leg to stand on. But none of it matters anyways, because you have a coach that is inept. There will always be distrust and friction when that happens. Maybe my extreme frustration messed up the point I was trying to get at.
 
Canesfan1899 said:
ssj4cane said:
Canesfan1899 said:
ssj4cane said:
Of course they wanted Heaps. The day you announce your starting a true frosh we almost guaranteed a loss to Louisville. These guys here for there last season don't want a true frosh as the qb.
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Bull****, we lost to Louisville because our coaches called plays scared and didn't let the true freshman run the ****ing offense.
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Sorry but we lost because we are starting a true frosh at qb. Golden isn't a good enough coach nor has a built a good enough team to overcome playing a true freshman in game 1 on the road against a decent program. Even if he runs the offense he still probably makes to many mistakes to win the game. Trust me I'm not making an excuse for Foldens fat *** because we shouldn't be in this spot in the first place.
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So what you're saying is game plan had nothing to do with it?
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In the way the loss looked yes it did but I think we lose the game even if we opened up the offense.
 
Heaps wouldn't need to block, and probably could call plays. Or at least execute an audible. Kaaya has the tools, and made some of the right calls, he just couldn't execute. That was part play calling, and part poor protection by the OL. It was also part being a True Frosh. The game is just too fast for him at this point. He might SEE what he needs to see, but in the time it takes him to go through his reads and progressions, he's getting clobbered, because he just doesn't have the "college" timing down yet. Once he does, he will be fine. But that is why a True Frosh, looks off a wide open receiver, and throws into double coverage, SEVERAL times.

Maybe Heaps doesn't have that panic, has more of the timing, and sees the wide open receiver and throws the easy pass.

Heaps could suck donkey d*ck, but a 5th year senior with that many starts, SHOULD be at least minimally serviceable, and should be able to execute an offense better than what we saw at UL.
 
That was the worst offensive game plan I've seen in a long time on ANY football level much less college. Miami Central's game plan against Hoover (wildcat right, wildcat left) was more creative. At least you knew why they were doing what they were doing. I have no clue what Coley was seeing.

Tired of the U not having an IDENTITY ON THE FIELD!!!! This crap hurts and you could see our boys were fed up! Malcolm Lewis, our best possession receiver did not have ONE catch in a game we couldn't get first downs in??? James Coley, do you know how any of this works???
 
CANE4LIFE said:
Heaps wouldn't need to block, and probably could call plays. Or at least execute an audible. Kaaya has the tools, and made some of the right calls, he just couldn't execute. That was part play calling, and part poor protection by the OL. It was also part being a True Frosh. The game is just too fast for him at this point. He might SEE what he needs to see, but in the time it takes him to go through his reads and progressions, he's getting clobbered, because he just doesn't have the "college" timing down yet. Once he does, he will be fine. But that is why a True Frosh, looks off a wide open receiver, and throws into double coverage, SEVERAL times.

Maybe Heaps doesn't have that panic, has more of the timing, and sees the wide open receiver and throws the easy pass.

Heaps could suck donkey d*ck, but a 5th year senior with that many starts, SHOULD be at least minimally serviceable, and should be able to execute an offense better than what we saw at UL.
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Should be, but is he? He transferred from Kansas, where he lost the starting job. And he's our best option? Let that sink in.

4yrs in and still no clear qb to run the show.
 
The only thing I didn't like from Kayaa was his refusal to look at anyone besides Brax B.(who BTFW should also be redshirting this season) on 3rd down.

Corches mane.
 
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I believe it was in the U Reloaded where the players talk about rallying when a freshman Ken Dorsey came in the game, knowing they all had to do their part and play harder. The OL wasn't going to let anyone behind them, the WR were going to run faster and not let any ball hit the ground, etc. down the line. Can only hope our players felt the same way behind Kaaya and it was a rallying point rather than moping and wanting it to be Heaps, of all people. The kid is not talented.

Either way everything seems to fall back to coaching. I am absolutely mind ****ed about everything surrounding our program right now. Those screenshots of our formations (on offense AND defense) had my wanting to puke all over my computer at work.

Am praying someone grows the balls to make changes and take risks to get this thing right.
 
I call bull on all of this, before the game everybody was excited about Kaaya starting, the fans, the players so now once we look terrible everybody is piling on. Hindsight is 20/20 but before the game I didnt see posts nor any articles saying they rather have Heaps starting.



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Heaps has to be the equivalent to a piece of dog sh*t. He sucks point blank period. Ryan Williams should be running this team but he got hurt so they had to go with Kaaya. Although, none of this matters cause our OLine is garbage and who ever is back there better be god cause its almost impossible to play QB for Miami with the line problems.
 
The Franchise said:
Teams lose faith and trust in a HC when they know he's full of ****. Al carried on before the game about how ready Kaaya was and how confident everyone was and how we were going to punish them with the pass if they stacked the box. Then, it was completely obvious none of that was true once the game started.

He's full of ****, and they know he speaks with a forked tongue. He puffed everyone up on how we were going to run a dangerous high octane offense with Kaaya, and then he turtled up like a fat pu$$y and made it impossible for the offense to succeed.

If you start a freshman over a 5th year guy, then you better run the full offense with him. If you don't, then all those playmakers on offense feel like you cheated them and sold them a box of diarrhea.
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Valid. What I don't understand about Golden's decision to start Kaaya is that he is risk averse, as demonstrated by most of his choices and actions regarding the team. So, why start a true freshman QB but micro manage him with the poor, insipid play calling? And how would it be OK to throw Kaaya into the fire but actually come out and say that Darling and McDermott did not start because he did not want to subject them to that pressure? Golden is on shaky ground because credibility as to being truthful is the main currency a coach has with his team, the admin, local coaches, recruits, etc. If he comes to be perceived by the majority of people as being disingenuous, it will be time to find another career, not just another school.
 
nyctfl said:
The Franchise said:
Teams lose faith and trust in a HC when they know he's full of ****. Al carried on before the game about how ready Kaaya was and how confident everyone was and how we were going to punish them with the pass if they stacked the box. Then, it was completely obvious none of that was true once the game started.

He's full of ****, and they know he speaks with a forked tongue. He puffed everyone up on how we were going to run a dangerous high octane offense with Kaaya, and then he turtled up like a fat pu$$y and made it impossible for the offense to succeed.

If you start a freshman over a 5th year guy, then you better run the full offense with him. If you don't, then all those playmakers on offense feel like you cheated them and sold them a box of diarrhea.
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Valid. What I don't understand about Golden's decision to start Kaaya is that he is risk averse, as demonstrated by most of his choices and actions regarding the team. So, why start a true freshman QB but micro manage him with the poor, insipid play calling? And how would it be OK to throw Kaaya into the fire but actually come out and say that Darling and McDermott did not start because he did not want to subject them to that pressure? Golden is on shaky ground because credibility as to being truthful is the main currency a coach has with his team, the admin, local coaches, recruits, etc. If he comes to be perceived by the majority of people as being disingenuous, it will be time to find another career, not just another school.
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Honestly, I think he let Coley make the call. I think he's let Coley have free reign of the offense, and its blowing up in his face. Not that AG would be making much better decisions, because I don't think he really knows d*ck about coaching offense, but he had a brilliant NFL guy in Fisch that he could trust to run a solid offensive gameplan and playcalling. Now he's got a guy making it up as he goes along, with only a few years total experience under his belt, and the guy is in way over his head. To make matters worse, there are NO "experienced" technicians/ X and O guys on the staff, particularly on offense, to help Coley. Its amateur hour on Offense here.
 
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Notsince1985 said:
Well, true or not, they're talking now about divisions in the team and Al being close to losing the team.
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These kids are not stupid. they are players and I can see them being ****ed. Sure the OL did not play well, but them, if you are one dimensional what do we expect. We did absolutely nothing to slow down the down hill attaching that was happening, and we had all summer and spring to be prepared.
 
Starting Kaaya was the right decision. We have seen Heaps' track record, we know he sucks. Kaaya will be a good QB, but not with this coaching staff. Kaaya the next two games and if he is ready, Williams goes in Nebraska.
 
Anyone who watched that game and came away with we lost the game because of any reason other than our Offensive lineman are a bunch of puss *** ******* is blind.

Canesfan1899 said:
ssj4cane said:
Of course they wanted Heaps. The day you announce your starting a true frosh we almost guaranteed a loss to Louisville. These guys here for there last season don't want a true frosh as the qb.
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Bull****, we lost to Louisville because our coaches called plays scared and didn't let the true freshman run the ****ing offense.
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