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2025 Kellen Wiley Jr, LB/ATH - Armwood HS (Tampa, FL) offered

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grover said:
He's toast.

Manny's combine 2026 high school and transfer portal class was 16th of 17 ACC schools, only higher than Virginia. Taken separately, the high school commits were also ranked 16th of 17 teams, the transfer class 12th of 17 (and remember Clemson is always in the bottom because they barely take transfers).

Add that abysmal outcome to the fact he UNDER-performs the mean in evaluations, and Duke is completely screwed. What happened to all their so-called NIL backers? Manny makes Norvell look like a recruiting juggernaut.
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I couldn't believe my eyes when mopes here were trying yo insinuate that he wouldve gave us the same results or better then Mario if only he had the same financial backing smh. Dude is a about as terrible at program building as you can be and is a horrible evaluator.. wouldve been wasted money keeping him here.
 
I'm not sure Wiley is ready yet. He is our most impressive LB physically. But does he know his assignments and has the playbook become reflexive?

IMO, linebacker is the most underrated position of the defense. Guys don't need to be brilliant, but they do need to be quick thinkers and instinctive which often correlates to intellect.

That's why RBs often translate so well to LB. They need to know whom to block, which hole to hit or cutback to, when to peel off for a screen. Lots of motion and fluid assignments. Fletcher has the physicality and also processes information in real time very quickly.

I haven't seen the full field awareness from Wiley yet in his limited snaps. He definitely needs more reps. But he may be a year away.
 
grover said:
I'm not sure Wiley is ready yet. He is our most impressive LB physically. But does he know his assignments and has the playbook become reflexive?

IMO, linebacker is the most underrated position of the defense. Guys don't need to be brilliant, but they do need to be quick thinkers and instinctive which often correlates to intellect.

That's why RBs often translate so well to LB. They need to know whom to block, which hole to hit or cutback to, when to peel off for a screen. Lots of motion and fluid assignments. Fletcher has the physicality and also processes information in real time very quickly.

I haven't seen the full field awareness from Wiley yet in his limited snaps. He definitely needs more reps. But he may be a year away.
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I couldn’t agree more. Hopefully, we have blowouts early. Lots of guys need those reps. LB & S esp need reps for sight recognition. Their speed and athleticism will show with reps.

Go Canes!
 
grover said:
I'm not sure Wiley is ready yet. He is our most impressive LB physically. But does he know his assignments and has the playbook become reflexive?

IMO, linebacker is the most underrated position of the defense. Guys don't need to be brilliant, but they do need to be quick thinkers and instinctive which often correlates to intellect.

That's why RBs often translate so well to LB. They need to know whom to block, which hole to hit or cutback to, when to peel off for a screen. Lots of motion and fluid assignments. Fletcher has the physicality and also processes information in real time very quickly.

I haven't seen the full field awareness from Wiley yet in his limited snaps. He definitely needs more reps. But he may be a year away.
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here we go again
 
Alex_Dynamix said:
I couldn't believe my eyes when mopes here were trying yo insinuate that he wouldve gave us the same results or better then Mario if only he had the same financial backing smh. Dude is a about as terrible at program building as you can be and is a horrible evaluator.. wouldve been wasted money keeping him here.
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Manny won the ACC at Duke.


















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grover said:
I'm not sure Wiley is ready yet. He is our most impressive LB physically. But does he know his assignments and has the playbook become reflexive?

IMO, linebacker is the most underrated position of the defense. Guys don't need to be brilliant, but they do need to be quick thinkers and instinctive which often correlates to intellect.

That's why RBs often translate so well to LB. They need to know whom to block, which hole to hit or cutback to, when to peel off for a screen. Lots of motion and fluid assignments. Fletcher has the physicality and also processes information in real time very quickly.

I haven't seen the full field awareness from Wiley yet in his limited snaps. He definitely needs more reps. But he may be a year away.
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Lots of word salad here. He is the most physically gifted kid in that room (by far), was a highly touted recruit and is entering year two in this defense. By all accounts he's handling his business. We have two elder statesman in that room that will likely see the bulk of the snaps. This kid should be ready for steady rotational snaps, and we shouldn't really question it to be frank. At some point you have to get kids live snaps to see what they got.
 
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grover said:
I'm not sure Wiley is ready yet. He is our most impressive LB physically. But does he know his assignments and has the playbook become reflexive?

IMO, linebacker is the most underrated position of the defense. Guys don't need to be brilliant, but they do need to be quick thinkers and instinctive which often correlates to intellect.

That's why RBs often translate so well to LB. They need to know whom to block, which hole to hit or cutback to, when to peel off for a screen. Lots of motion and fluid assignments. Fletcher has the physicality and also processes information in real time very quickly.

I haven't seen the full field awareness from Wiley yet in his limited snaps. He definitely needs more reps. But he may be a year away.
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You got this from the coaches ? Where did you pull this from 😂
 
grover said:
He's toast.

Manny's combine 2026 high school and transfer portal class was 16th of 17 ACC schools, only higher than Virginia. Taken separately, the high school commits were also ranked 16th of 17 teams, the transfer class 12th of 17 (and remember Clemson is always in the bottom because they barely take transfers).

Add that abysmal outcome to the fact he UNDER-performs the mean in evaluations, and Duke is completely screwed. What happened to all their so-called NIL backers? Manny makes Norvell look like a recruiting juggernaut.
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Dude is just so lackluster when talent acquisition matters most.

Should be a funny season to watch his pathetic facial expressions throughout the year.

Banda did a ton of the recruiting for Miami back in the day and I don’t see the equivalent of that happening under anybody on his staff right now.

I’m not quite sure why Trent Harris left Illinois to go work under Manny but I feel like our guy just boarded a sinking ship.
 
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Morey161 said:
Let the doubters fuel you and your family. Nothing better than being doubted. Your son will be fine no matter what. Looking forward to seeing him play this season!
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I'm not doubting Wiley's talent at all, I'm doubting his readiness right now. There's a difference.

I am a fan of Wiley. I was a supporter before he had his dominant senior season. People may forget but he was a 3-star early on when everyone was stressing about class rankings and stars. I knew he was a Miami kid. Since then, he's consistently proven his doubters wrong. I'm sure he will continue to do so. But I do not believe he's ready as a starter yet. I guess we'll find out in September.
 
grover said:
I'm not doubting Wiley's talent at all, I'm doubting his readiness right now. There's a difference.

I am a fan of Wiley. I was a supporter before he had his dominant senior season. People may forget but he was a 3-star early on when everyone was stressing about class rankings and stars. I knew he was a Miami kid. Since then, he's consistently proven his doubters wrong. I'm sure he will continue to do so. But I do not believe he's ready as a starter yet. I guess we'll find out in September.
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Maybe it’s just a motivational tactic although it didn’t appear to be, but Mario spoke about this exact thing about Pruitt, Bonner, Marcelin and Wiley in his post-practice presser.

To keep it a buck I don’t believe it was a motivational tactic….Mario keeps it real. They asked about a Portis interception and he catches himself after a few words of praise because he doesn’t like praising young guys….then soon after in the interview he gives unconditional praise to JJ Duningan and Wingo lmao; even invoking Toney. He says those guys are ultra rare however he is showing that if it is there it’s there and he isn’t going to bluff or lie about it.

So i think how he feels about the non-super senior linebackers is genuine. From 2:55 onwards



The more snaps Wiley gets the better for the team because it means he is on a whole new level. It should be challenging to unseat grown men like Chase and Toure. Agree with you on being a Wiley fan. I love all 3 of the Armwood guys we got, i think they are all special
 
cookies said:
Maybe it’s just a motivational tactic although it didn’t appear to be, but Mario spoke about this exact thing about Pruitt, Bonner, Marcelin and Wiley in his post-practice presser.

To keep it a buck I don’t believe it was a motivational tactic….Mario keeps it real. They asked about a Portis interception and he catches himself after a few words of praise because he doesn’t like praising young guys….then soon after in the interview he gives unconditional praise to JJ Duningan and Wingo lmao; even invoking Toney. He says those guys are ultra rare however he is showing that if it is there it’s there and he isn’t going to bluff or lie about it.

So i think how he feels about the non-super senior linebackers is genuine. From 2:55 onwards



The more snaps Wiley gets the better for the team because it means he is on a whole new level. It should be challenging to unseat grown men like Chase and Toure. Agree with you on being a Wiley fan. I love all 3 of the Armwood guys we got, i think they are all special
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I found the tempering praise thing with portis and the effusive praise for Dunnigan thing funny also.. JJ must be doing everything right to get that type of praise.. Now he has to keep it up for next 5 months..

Also its another reason it makes it tough for all involved with guys getting 8 years or whatever amount. Like I get it but dam lol..
 
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