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2025 Kellen Wiley Jr, LB/ATH - Armwood HS (Tampa, FL) offered

Jerseys are in !!!!! Let's Go !!!!
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JHallCanes said:
Same **** we’ve been hearing for 15-20 years

But these guys really are upgrades this time
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Yea all the bs before I stopped listening to years ago until Mario took over. All those other times we had look like Tarzan played like Jane and the whole roster stacked with short/small players, it’s different this time at least. Hate seeing 200 pound linebackers coming in cause they usually put on the weight 99% of the time and can’t move anymore. This dude frame he’s already at 220ish coming in tall and can run, his body can handle the weight without losing a step. Pause

People wanted the wrong players to be like 250, dude like 6’0 210 at linebacker and they want them to gain weight. The minute they do they can’t move at all, in hs they can move cause they more than likely bigger and faster than everyone. Not at this level. But I’m glad they are prioritizing frame at every position, except wr that is.
 
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JHallCanes said:
Same **** we’ve been hearing for 15-20 years

But these guys really are upgrades this time
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Definitely upgrades. You could swap their jerseys for UGA, Bama, Texas and OSU and you wouldn’t blink.

These are the type of physical specimens we need to be bringing in instead of 190 lb guys who take 3 years of S&C just to moderately contribute at 215.

Big guys hurt little guys. It’s simple. Start with the physical advantages to beat 80% of your opponents then layer in schemes to beat the 20% who can actually match your physicality.
 
Dwinstitles said:
Yea all the bs before I stopped listening to years ago until Mario took over. All those other times we had look like Tarzan played like Jane and the whole roster stacked with short/small players, it’s different this time at least. Hate seeing 200 pound linebackers coming in cause they usually put on the weight 99% of the time and can’t move anymore. This dude frame he’s already at 220ish coming in tall and can run, his body can handle the weight without losing a step. Pause

People wanted the wrong players to be like 250, dude like 6’0 210 at linebacker and they want them to gain weight. The minute they do they can’t move at all, in hs they can move cause they more than likely bigger and faster than everyone. Not at this level. But I’m glad they are prioritizing frame at every position, except wr that is.
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WR is a big one for me

Must have been 15+ years of hearing these overhyped WRs and then I see them in person and they’re built like little kids getting tossed around by grown men at DB

Not everyone is gonna be like that kid that plays for the team in Ohio of course but I’ve learned my lesson on these 7 on 7 in shorts phenoms
 
Dwinstitles said:
Yea all the bs before I stopped listening to years ago until Mario took over. All those other times we had look like Tarzan played like Jane and the whole roster stacked with short/small players, it’s different this time at least. Hate seeing 200 pound linebackers coming in cause they usually put on the weight 99% of the time and can’t move anymore. This dude frame he’s already at 220ish coming in tall and can run, his body can handle the weight without losing a step. Pause

People wanted the wrong players to be like 250, dude like 6’0 210 at linebacker and they want them to gain weight. The minute they do they can’t move at all, in hs they can move cause they more than likely bigger and faster than everyone. Not at this level. But I’m glad they are prioritizing frame at every position, except wr that is.
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A lot of what you're describing is attributed to nutrition. Gaining 20 pounds in a college P5 program should NEVER make you slower. The rest is definitely about God given genetics and thats the part we pay Mario to address.
 
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Damiencane86 said:
A lot of what you're describing is attributed to nutrition. Gaining 20 pounds in a college P5 program should NEVER make you slower. The rest is definitely about God given genetics and thats the part we pay Mario to address.
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It sometimes looks like that, I dont have data or anything about that ask @JHallCanes but for me it looks like some can gain speed and some cant. Its like genetics some bodies are strong enough to maintain speed with weight gain. But if they get too big they slow down as well, depends on a lot of things I would guess. I dont think we have ever hit on a 200lbs lb in recent memory, they never do anything here or the league.
 
Dwinstitles said:
It sometimes looks like that, I dont have data or anything about that ask @JHallCanes but for me it looks like some can gain speed and some cant. Its like genetics some bodies are strong enough to maintain speed with weight gain. But if they get too big they slow down as well, depends on a lot of things I would guess. I dont think we have ever hit on a 200lbs lb in recent memory, they never do anything here or the league.
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Sean Spence the last smaller lb I remember we hit
 
Damiencane86 said:
A lot of what you're describing is attributed to nutrition. Gaining 20 pounds in a college P5 program should NEVER make you slower. The rest is definitely about God given genetics and thats the part we pay Mario to address.
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Yeah I think fans gain 20lbs watching football and think that’s what happens to these guys

They’re burning a ton of calories as it is so gaining weight isn’t always so easy. But they’re training for sport at the same time so a lot of times you get faster as well just kinda depends
 
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