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Kehoe Staying?

Kehoe isn't the best but he obviously isn't the problem either.. and he is still getting these kids NFL paychecks so why wouldn't richt give him a chance?

Richt can clearly see that Coleys playcalling leaves a lot to be desired and should not be an indictment on Kehoe's ability.

an o-line coach is only going to be as good as the playcaller and or offensive coordinator, in most cases.

you can't coach AROUND bad and predictable playcalling.
 
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Martycane said:
Didn't his lines nearly get Berlin and Wright killed 10-12 years ago?
When can you say Miami had good OLs since 2001-2002?
Just asking. I don't recall any. And it's not just about the individual guys who went to the league. It's about how the lines worked over all.
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Bingo. Google "Erick Flowers poor technique". He is just the most recent example of a UM o-lineman making it to the NFL despite Kehoe's incompetence.

Rage Against the Hype Machine: Ereck Flowers
His sluggish kickstep shows up on tape as well, but in college his poor technique didn’t really matter – he was already so much bigger and stronger than his competition most weeks that he was able to win with brute size and strength at the point of attack.

To go along with his horrid footwork, Flowers routinely commits a cardinal sin the art of pass blocking: he lunges. In college, lunging doesn’t kill him on the edge because like I said, he’s just a mammoth compared to other defenders on the field. In the NFL, that won’t fly. Professional pass rushers feast on offensive tackles who lunge, because it usually means they are off-balance; resulting in easy pulldown techniques for #sacks.
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Here is another gem: Ereck Flowers is a big dude who's a big NFL Draft prospect despite his technique - SBNation.com


For instance, one consistently weird thing Flowers did was line up as a left tackle closer to the line of scrimmage than the left guard inside of him. A left tackle is supposed to understand that he is likely going to see the fastest if not also the best pass rushing defensive end/outside linebacker from the opposition every single game. To that end, they should generally try to line up as far into the backfield without getting called for it as humanly possible.

That is especially true when you are talking about a tall guy like Flowers, who could easily lean forward and have his helmet at waist level of the center, which is all he would need to be legal. That is why an offensive line generally looks like a banana from above with the center in the middle. There is a natural curve because the tackles and guards usually line up at different depths.

Instead, he lined up more like a guard than Miami's actual left guard and it didn't matter whether it was a passing play or a running play. **** he might have been even closer to the line of scrimmage on passing downs than on running downs. Who does that?

Obviously, that is something that can be corrected. But why wouldn't it have been corrected while he was still at Miami?
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That OL was young as ****. They barely had any starts coming into the season. I don't know either way but OL is one position where experience and continuity is something that's essential
 
The Franchise said:
Kehoe is UM football. Fire him, and you're firing UM football. The man is a living legend who developed and coached the greatest OL in the history of this program.
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Vintage.

Overlooking this classic is indicative of the board's loss of focus. Lock it up people.
 
Feedback I get from inside that building is that people like Kehoe as a guy, but he's 100% useless as a coach. Just screams and yells nonsense. Incapable of actually teaching or developing guys. No one ever learns anything, and he doesn't bring anything to the table when it comes to gameplanning opponents. He's literally just a mascot.

Look at the progression of Erick Flowers. There really wasn't any progress. He was an athletic freak with rare size and movement skills, with a big time nasty streak to go along with it. He didn't learn any of those things from Kehoe, he came into the program that way. And what was the knock on him among all the NFL evaluators? HE WAS A DISASTER TECHNICALLY & FUNDAMENTALLY. The kid was drafted in the Top 10 based on raw talent and athleticism alone. Same was said about Bryant McKinnie. He was just THAT much better than everyone he faced at the collegiate level.

Let's get someone who can a) TEACH, develop, & refine talent b) bring SOMETHING to the table from an X's and O's standpoint in the run game and c) RECRUIT effectively.
 
The Franchise said:
Kehoe is UM football. Fire him, and you're firing UM football. The man is a living legend who developed and coached the greatest OL in the history of this program.
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I can never tell when you're being serious or sarcastic, lol. Nevertheless, a lot of people around here trying to have it both ways. I can't count the number of posts I've seen about the O linemen and "this one sucks" and "that one has two left feet", etc. Now it's Kehoe that sucks? Maybe a lot of our guys just aren't very good and our depth is shaky? It's seems awfully early to be second-guessing the new HC already (assuming this story about Kehoe staying is true).
 
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Jack71 said:
The Franchise said:
Kehoe is UM football. Fire him, and you're firing UM football. The man is a living legend who developed and coached the greatest OL in the history of this program.
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I can never tell when you're being serious or sarcastic, lol. Nevertheless, a lot of people around here trying to have it both ways. I can't count the number of posts I've seen about the O linemen and "this one sucks" and "that one has two left feet", etc. Now it's Kehoe that sucks? Maybe a lot of our guys just aren't very good and our depth is shaky? It's seems awfully early to be second-guessing the new HC already.
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Kehoe hasn't coached a good line in 15 years. The last good one he coached had multiple NFL starters on it. If he is retained, it's a massssssive strike against Richt, and would tell me he's just playing out the string and not really hungry to win.
 
Guys talking about Kehoe like they do Swasey, as if he hadn't been fired for poor performance already. Our OLs under him except since the turn of century have been awful.

I'm not going to have patience for the new coach if he insists on retaining guys who deserve to be fired.
 
Kehoe takes on and has more unfinished projects than a senile old man tending an electronics shop.
 
FullyERicht said:
Jack71 said:
The Franchise said:
Kehoe is UM football. Fire him, and you're firing UM football. The man is a living legend who developed and coached the greatest OL in the history of this program.
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I can never tell when you're being serious or sarcastic, lol. Nevertheless, a lot of people around here trying to have it both ways. I can't count the number of posts I've seen about the O linemen and "this one sucks" and "that one has two left feet", etc. Now it's Kehoe that sucks? Maybe a lot of our guys just aren't very good and our depth is shaky? It's seems awfully early to be second-guessing the new HC already.
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Kehoe hasn't coached a good line in 15 years. The last good one he coached had multiple NFL starters on it. If he is retained, it's a massssssive strike against Richt, and would tell me he's just playing out the string and not really hungry to win.
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Would you like to change your username now or wait for the inevitable firing after back-to-back-to-back 5-7 seasons caused by ****** O-line play?
 
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RepTheGables said:
FullyERicht said:
Jack71 said:
The Franchise said:
Kehoe is UM football. Fire him, and you're firing UM football. The man is a living legend who developed and coached the greatest OL in the history of this program.
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I can never tell when you're being serious or sarcastic, lol. Nevertheless, a lot of people around here trying to have it both ways. I can't count the number of posts I've seen about the O linemen and "this one sucks" and "that one has two left feet", etc. Now it's Kehoe that sucks? Maybe a lot of our guys just aren't very good and our depth is shaky? It's seems awfully early to be second-guessing the new HC already.
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Kehoe hasn't coached a good line in 15 years. The last good one he coached had multiple NFL starters on it. If he is retained, it's a massssssive strike against Richt, and would tell me he's just playing out the string and not really hungry to win.
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Would you like to change your username now or wait for the inevitable firing after back-to-back-to-back 5-7 seasons caused by ****** O-line play?
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He already called dibs on LosingMyERichtion if Richt retains Kehoe.
 
RepTheGables said:
FullyERicht said:
Jack71 said:
The Franchise said:
Kehoe is UM football. Fire him, and you're firing UM football. The man is a living legend who developed and coached the greatest OL in the history of this program.
Click to expand...

I can never tell when you're being serious or sarcastic, lol. Nevertheless, a lot of people around here trying to have it both ways. I can't count the number of posts I've seen about the O linemen and "this one sucks" and "that one has two left feet", etc. Now it's Kehoe that sucks? Maybe a lot of our guys just aren't very good and our depth is shaky? It's seems awfully early to be second-guessing the new HC already.
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Kehoe hasn't coached a good line in 15 years. The last good one he coached had multiple NFL starters on it. If he is retained, it's a massssssive strike against Richt, and would tell me he's just playing out the string and not really hungry to win.
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Would you like to change your username now or wait for the inevitable firing after back-to-back-to-back 5-7 seasons caused by ****ty O-line play?
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Oh no once I have a name, it's locked in until the next corch is hired.

As long as the new HC's name can be made into a gross, sexually explicit inuendo, I'm good to go.
 
I haven't been a fan of Kehoe's coaching for many many years now. I'm sorry, the execution of his lines have been bad for years....and his recruiting has been suspect at times as well. I said the first go-round when he was fired and Stoutland was brought in how refreshing it was to have a legit OL coach. His lines vastly improved under his control. The only reason Kehoe was brought back is because he's a staple in the UM culture and history books. His time has past. I love Art's passion....that dude bleeds orange and green and his personality gets me pumped up when watching the old 30 for 30, but we need a new OL coach. I would love Art to somehow stay connected to the program in some way, just not in his current role.
 
NO NO NO NO

Please no more Kehoe. His units have been under-performing going to back to his last few years under Coker.
 
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