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Kam and JW are apparently leaving

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Yeah I want them both to succeed at the next level, with that said I don't think either will go top 40 picks or so.

Kam has a lot of bad stuff on tape, that will get DC's in the league fired. James I'm not exactly what position he plays in the NFL.

It wouldn't shocked me to see both go in rounds 2-4 range.

Honestly both could have improved their stock by coming back, but in true Miami fashion we don't hold on to NFL draft picks regardless if they could improve their stock coming back. We will never reach peak until we get some of these guys to make wiser NFL decisions.
 
Damiencane86 said:
Heard so many mixed things about Kam from scouts opinions, and he some moments of amazing film as well as awful moments. I'm sure the right team can coach some of that out of him. James is intriguing. If I was a GM I'd want to convert him to a hybrid WLB. He brings a lot of versatility and if he lands in the right spot can be a very good NFL player.
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Safeties aren't getting drafted as high as they have been. Brian Branch was the first S taken off the board in '23 and he went in the second round. I think that's around where Kam goes.
 
I think it was always going to be a none or both situation. Those boys are clearly close and I think they will be missed. Yes Kam left a lot to be desired this year and let his eyes fool him and I know for a fact he played through numerous injuries but he was a leader, great work ethic, and QB of the defense. JW20 played well this year but not amazing however he showed plenty of emotion and his energy was contagious. I assume they both got 3 round draft grades.

However I think we miss them both next year. We are losing a lot. I know we went 7-5 (8-4) But I do like some continuity. Very important to keep Kiko in the fold losing Kam and Flagg we lost two of our on field coaches to run Guidry's scheme. Even if we went and got a top safety out of the portal he has only a few months to pick up the scheme.
 
Cookie917 said:
I think it was always going to be a none or both situation. Those boys are clearly close and I think they will be missed. Yes Kam left a lot to be desired this year and let his eyes fool him and I know for a fact he played through numerous injuries but he was a leader, great work ethic, and QB of the defense. JW20 played well this year but not amazing however he showed plenty of emotion and his energy was contagious. I assume they both got 3 round draft grades.

However I think we miss them both next year. We are losing a lot. I know we went 7-5 (8-4) But I do like some continuity. Very important to keep Kiko in the fold losing Kam and Flagg we lost two of our on field coaches to run Guidry's scheme. Even if we went and got a top safety out of the portal he has only a few months to pick up the scheme.
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On field coaches? Kam gave up more big plays than ANYONE this year. This "on field coach" "locker room guy" talk for flagg is talk you say about a kid that just isn't that good on the field. Kiko was our defensive leader by seasons end.
 
This will be interesting to follow.

What do Kam’s testing numbers look like? He doesn’t pop athletically and with his mental errors two years running I hope he’s not blindsided with going later than expected.

I really wouldn’t be surprised if Williams went before him, assuming he tests better (I think he will) and the versatility he brings. The NFL is looking for that.

Anyway, good luck to both.
 
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ItsAUThing.com said:
Kam will do fine. JW needs a lot of work.
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I have a feeling JW ends up being taken before Kam… he is hella versatile and the athletic traits are there. Kam is a safety through and through and has some bad tape out there which they won’t like. His testing numbers should be meh as well. Both will be drafted but I personally like JW’s prospects more.
 
Not surprised but a little disappointed

Curious on their draft grades. We keep seeing Kam in the first round but I don’t see it. He’s boom or bust.

I’d think round 3-5 for both
 
JW will test very well but to me is a watered down version of Isiah Simmons

Simmons actually made plays at Clemson and went top 10

His NFL career has been a dissappointment

I dont expect JW to go Rd 1 but teams will be intrigued by the physical numbers
 
Good luck to both young men. I think they both will do very well in the league. If you didn't certain players because of poor body language and lack of emotion then you should love these two guys. They played with emotion and toughness and represented for the Canes and their city the entire time.
 
Knew this was 100% coming. Don't think either put any type of good film out there this season but thats the Miami way... gna need 2 starting caliber portal safeties. Hopefully Patterson sticks and could potentially have a bain type impact
 
Cookie917 said:
I think it was always going to be a none or both situation. Those boys are clearly close and I think they will be missed. Yes Kam left a lot to be desired this year and let his eyes fool him and I know for a fact he played through numerous injuries but he was a leader, great work ethic, and QB of the defense. JW20 played well this year but not amazing however he showed plenty of emotion and his energy was contagious. I assume they both got 3 round draft grades.

However I think we miss them both next year. We are losing a lot. I know we went 7-5 (8-4) But I do like some continuity. Very important to keep Kiko in the fold losing Kam and Flagg we lost two of our on field coaches to run Guidry's scheme. Even if we went and got a top safety out of the portal he has only a few months to pick up the scheme.
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Yeesh there's a lot to unpack here. I'll agree with you on Kiko but Kam and JW were boom or bust players that hurt us as much as they helped us. Kam produced at a high level as far as INT's but lost us games too (see breakdown on game winning TD against GT). JW is a LB at the next level and Guidry has said as much. They're NFL players for sure but both of them need to be reigned in and developed properly. Only so much that Guidry could do with them in one season.

And LOL on Flagg. That was like calling Glenn Cook a coach on the field. Just because you know the playbook, doesn't mean you have any business being on the field as an every down LB.
 
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TooColdToHold said:
Good luck to both young men. I think they both will do very well in the league. If you didn't certain players because of poor body language and lack of emotion then you should love these two guys. They played with emotion and toughness and represented for the Canes and their city the entire time.
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Hopefully both go in the first two rounds. Win/win/win for them and the program.
 
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