Kaaya's

[dk72]

Yet if you listen to Folden's jizzmops they continue to squawk about Kaaya being the reason we stunk last year. They pound the "you can't win with a true freshman QB" drum.

I guess that begs the question, whose fault was it that we had to go with a true freshman QB in year 4?.

Yes, it had nothing to do with the fact that Dewey and Thompson got injured and left football, no top rated QB was willing to come here while the NCAA was leaving us hanging, Olsen turned out to be a headcase, and Ryan Williams got injured the summer before the season started.

Says no top rated QB was willing to come here. Then mentions Elite 11 QB Olsen in his next sentence.

He also yaps about Thompson and Dewey getting hurt. Thompson was always a baseball player and Dewey had no business ever playing at this level. Where's Dewey now?

Yes, but not the first two years. Olsen signed on later, PLUS he was a legacy player who's brother was a 'Cane. As for Dewey, he's not playing football at all because his injury was career ending.

 

[dk72]

Yet if you listen to Folden's jizzmops they continue to squawk about Kaaya being the reason we stunk last year. They pound the "you can't win with a true freshman QB" drum.

I guess that begs the question, whose fault was it that we had to go with a true freshman QB in year 4?.

Yes, it had nothing to do with the fact that Dewey and Thompson got injured and left football, no top rated QB was willing to come here while the NCAA was leaving us hanging, Olsen turned out to be a headcase, and Ryan Williams got injured the summer before the season started.

Says no top rated QB was willing to come here. Then mentions Elite 11 QB Olsen in his next sentence.

He also yaps about Thompson and Dewey getting hurt. Thompson was always a baseball player and Dewey had no business ever playing at this level. Where's Dewey now?

Yes, but not the first two years. Olsen signed on later, PLUS he was a legacy player who's brother was a 'Cane. As for Dewey, he's not playing football at all because his injury was career ending.

Dewey, by the way, was a 4 star (80 pts) #21 QB according to the ESPN rankings. Not great, but as good as was willing to come here in the midst of the media feeding frenzy about how Miami is going to be destroyed by the NCAA.

 

[BucCANEers]

Let's give Coley some cred. Unless I'm mistaking wasn't Kayaa a no name qb from cali when Miami started to recruit him? He committed as a no name then blew the **** up. I belive that's why he stayed with Miami even after UCLA, the school that he wanted, came calling

 

[Ibis Wingz]

I guess that begs the question, whose fault was it that we had to go with a true freshman QB in year 4?.

Yes, it had nothing to do with the fact that Dewey and Thompson got injured and left football, no top rated QB was willing to come here while the NCAA was leaving us hanging, Olsen turned out to be a headcase, and Ryan Williams got injured the summer before the season started.

Says no top rated QB was willing to come here. Then mentions Elite 11 QB Olsen in his next sentence.

He also yaps about Thompson and Dewey getting hurt. Thompson was always a baseball player and Dewey had no business ever playing at this level. Where's Dewey now?

Yes, but not the first two years. Olsen signed on later, PLUS he was a legacy player who's brother was a 'Cane. As for Dewey, he's not playing football at all because his injury was career ending.

Dewey, by the way, was a 4 star (80 pts) #21 QB according to the ESPN rankings. Not great, but as good as was willing to come here in the midst of the media feeding frenzy about how Miami is going to be destroyed by the NCAA.

So, what five star QBs have signed with UM since the NCAA matter was resolved?

 

[Hurracanes]

Kaaya is going to be the reason why coaches will be drooling for the Miami job next year.

 

[TC7D]

To be fair, there aren't that many 5 star QB's in any given year. If you get a high 4, like Kaaya, you're doing very well.

Yes, it had nothing to do with the fact that Dewey and Thompson got injured and left football, no top rated QB was willing to come here while the NCAA was leaving us hanging, Olsen turned out to be a headcase, and Ryan Williams got injured the summer before the season started.

Says no top rated QB was willing to come here. Then mentions Elite 11 QB Olsen in his next sentence.

He also yaps about Thompson and Dewey getting hurt. Thompson was always a baseball player and Dewey had no business ever playing at this level. Where's Dewey now?

Yes, but not the first two years. Olsen signed on later, PLUS he was a legacy player who's brother was a 'Cane. As for Dewey, he's not playing football at all because his injury was career ending.

Dewey, by the way, was a 4 star (80 pts) #21 QB according to the ESPN rankings. Not great, but as good as was willing to come here in the midst of the media feeding frenzy about how Miami is going to be destroyed by the NCAA.

So, what five star QBs have signed with UM since the NCAA matter was resolved?

 

[The Franchise]

I guess that begs the question, whose fault was it that we had to go with a true freshman QB in year 4?.

Yes, it had nothing to do with the fact that Dewey and Thompson got injured and left football, no top rated QB was willing to come here while the NCAA was leaving us hanging, Olsen turned out to be a headcase, and Ryan Williams got injured the summer before the season started.

Says no top rated QB was willing to come here. Then mentions Elite 11 QB Olsen in his next sentence.

He also yaps about Thompson and Dewey getting hurt. Thompson was always a baseball player and Dewey had no business ever playing at this level. Where's Dewey now?

Yes, but not the first two years. Olsen signed on later, PLUS he was a legacy player who's brother was a 'Cane. As for Dewey, he's not playing football at all because his injury was career ending.

Dewey, by the way, was a 4 star (80 pts) #21 QB according to the ESPN rankings. Not great, but as good as was willing to come here in the midst of the media feeding frenzy about how Miami is going to be destroyed by the NCAA.

Dewey was a 3 star who couldn't cut it at this level. He was horrible before his mystery injury. And that injury didn't end his career. He couldn't play at this level and never tried to make it back to playing.

 

[bacane]

Yes, it had nothing to do with the fact that Dewey and Thompson got injured and left football, no top rated QB was willing to come here while the NCAA was leaving us hanging, Olsen turned out to be a headcase, and Ryan Williams got injured the summer before the season started.

Says no top rated QB was willing to come here. Then mentions Elite 11 QB Olsen in his next sentence.

He also yaps about Thompson and Dewey getting hurt. Thompson was always a baseball player and Dewey had no business ever playing at this level. Where's Dewey now?

Yes, but not the first two years. Olsen signed on later, PLUS he was a legacy player who's brother was a 'Cane. As for Dewey, he's not playing football at all because his injury was career ending.

Dewey, by the way, was a 4 star (80 pts) #21 QB according to the ESPN rankings. Not great, but as good as was willing to come here in the midst of the media feeding frenzy about how Miami is going to be destroyed by the NCAA.

So, what five star QBs have signed with UM since the NCAA matter was resolved?

Better yet, what 5-star QB has ever signed with Miami? Kyle Wright is probably the highest rated to sign - and how did that turn out?

 

[dk72]

Yes, it had nothing to do with the fact that Dewey and Thompson got injured and left football, no top rated QB was willing to come here while the NCAA was leaving us hanging, Olsen turned out to be a headcase, and Ryan Williams got injured the summer before the season started.

Says no top rated QB was willing to come here. Then mentions Elite 11 QB Olsen in his next sentence.

He also yaps about Thompson and Dewey getting hurt. Thompson was always a baseball player and Dewey had no business ever playing at this level. Where's Dewey now?

Yes, but not the first two years. Olsen signed on later, PLUS he was a legacy player who's brother was a 'Cane. As for Dewey, he's not playing football at all because his injury was career ending.

Dewey, by the way, was a 4 star (80 pts) #21 QB according to the ESPN rankings. Not great, but as good as was willing to come here in the midst of the media feeding frenzy about how Miami is going to be destroyed by the NCAA.

So, what five star QBs have signed with UM since the NCAA matter was resolved?

Yes, we've done so poorly since then. Kaaya, a consensus 4-star and and ESPN 300 recruit. We've got Jack Allison lined up.

 

[dk72]

Yes, it had nothing to do with the fact that Dewey and Thompson got injured and left football, no top rated QB was willing to come here while the NCAA was leaving us hanging, Olsen turned out to be a headcase, and Ryan Williams got injured the summer before the season started.

Says no top rated QB was willing to come here. Then mentions Elite 11 QB Olsen in his next sentence.

He also yaps about Thompson and Dewey getting hurt. Thompson was always a baseball player and Dewey had no business ever playing at this level. Where's Dewey now?

Yes, but not the first two years. Olsen signed on later, PLUS he was a legacy player who's brother was a 'Cane. As for Dewey, he's not playing football at all because his injury was career ending.

Dewey, by the way, was a 4 star (80 pts) #21 QB according to the ESPN rankings. Not great, but as good as was willing to come here in the midst of the media feeding frenzy about how Miami is going to be destroyed by the NCAA.

Dewey was a 3 star who couldn't cut it at this level. He was horrible before his mystery injury. And that injury didn't end his career. He couldn't play at this level and never tried to make it back to playing.

He was a low 4 star on ESPN. You claim he couldn't cut it, but he never had much opportunity. For someone who whines, *****es, and moans about Golden supposedly belittling players and throwing them under the bus, here you are belittling Dewey AND his injury ("mystery injury"). That injury was a back injury and he had consulted doctors both in Miami and Texas and was advised to give up football to protect himself. But here you are acting as if it were just an excuse. Nice way to attack a kid.

 

[dk72]

Yes, it had nothing to do with the fact that Dewey and Thompson got injured and left football, no top rated QB was willing to come here while the NCAA was leaving us hanging, Olsen turned out to be a headcase, and Ryan Williams got injured the summer before the season started.

Says no top rated QB was willing to come here. Then mentions Elite 11 QB Olsen in his next sentence.

He also yaps about Thompson and Dewey getting hurt. Thompson was always a baseball player and Dewey had no business ever playing at this level. Where's Dewey now?

Yes, but not the first two years. Olsen signed on later, PLUS he was a legacy player who's brother was a 'Cane. As for Dewey, he's not playing football at all because his injury was career ending.

Dewey, by the way, was a 4 star (80 pts) #21 QB according to the ESPN rankings. Not great, but as good as was willing to come here in the midst of the media feeding frenzy about how Miami is going to be destroyed by the NCAA.

So, what five star QBs have signed with UM since the NCAA matter was resolved?

Clearly you know a lot about recruiting. Using the ESPN ratings, in 2013 (which is actually before the ruling that came out Oct. 2013 since most of that recruiting effort happened earlier) the highest ranked QB was a 4-star, Hackenburg. In 2014 one 5-star, Deshaun Watson. In 2015 one 5-star, Kyler Murray. Additionally, there were only a handful of 4-star QBs each under the DT and PP categories. So how many teams at all got 5 star QB recruits during the same time frame.....almost none.

 

[Klamalama]

Kaaya is going to be the reason why coaches will be drooling for the Miami job next year.

What good would that do? We have drooling coaches now.

 

[SoldierForThisU]

Yet if you listen to Folden's jizzmops they continue to squawk about Kaaya being the reason we stunk last year. They pound the "you can't win with a true freshman QB" drum.

I guess that begs the question, whose fault was it that we had to go with a true freshman QB in year 4?.

Ideally, you redshirt a QB. Last year was 2014. That means that a Redshirt Senior QB would have signed in 2010, redshirted that year, and played in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014. That hypothetical QB would have been signed by Shannon. Who was our signee that year? I'll wait.

 

[jkaz1]

It probably could've turned out pretty well with Wright if we had proper coaching at that time. The same is true with a number of players over this dry spell of coaching and development. Before Kaaya arrived, Berlin was the best QB since Dorsey. However, he had decent coaching prior to arriving (Shreveport Evangel Christian in HS and Spurrier for his first couple years in college)...

Says no top rated QB was willing to come here. Then mentions Elite 11 QB Olsen in his next sentence.

He also yaps about Thompson and Dewey getting hurt. Thompson was always a baseball player and Dewey had no business ever playing at this level. Where's Dewey now?

Yes, but not the first two years. Olsen signed on later, PLUS he was a legacy player who's brother was a 'Cane. As for Dewey, he's not playing football at all because his injury was career ending.

Dewey, by the way, was a 4 star (80 pts) #21 QB according to the ESPN rankings. Not great, but as good as was willing to come here in the midst of the media feeding frenzy about how Miami is going to be destroyed by the NCAA.

So, what five star QBs have signed with UM since the NCAA matter was resolved?

Better yet, what 5-star QB has ever signed with Miami? Kyle Wright is probably the highest rated to sign - and how did that turn out?

 

[CanesAreAble]

Yet if you listen to Folden's jizzmops they continue to squawk about Kaaya being the reason we stunk last year. They pound the "you can't win with a true freshman QB" drum.

I guess that begs the question, whose fault was it that we had to go with a true freshman QB in year 4?.

Ideally, you redshirt a QB. Last year was 2014. That means that a Redshirt Senior QB would have signed in 2010, redshirted that year, and played in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014. That hypothetical QB would have been signed by Shannon. Who was our signee that year? I'll wait.

Stephen Morris was a decent college QB. Golden had two recruiting cycles (if you don't include 2011) to find a good QB and they were all busts.

 

[pimpcane1]

To put Brads numbers into perspective, Its hard to imagine that in Kaaya's freshman season he put up similar or better numbers than Peyton Manning in his ballyhooed junior season.

Peyton Manning Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
1994 Tennessee SEC QB 11 89 144 61.8 1141 7.9 7.6 11 6 145.2
1995 Tennessee SEC QB 11 244 380 64.2 2954 7.8 8.5 22 4 146.5
1996 Tennessee SEC QB 11 243 380 63.9 3287 8.7 8.3 20 12 147.7
1997 Tennessee SEC QB 12 287 477 60.2 3819 8.0 8.5 36 11 147.7
Career Tennessee 863 1381 62.5 11201 8.1 8.3 89 33 147.1

Brad Kaaya Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

Passing
Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
*2014 Miami (FL) ACC FR QB 13 221 378 58.5 3198 8.5 8.4 26 12 145.9

The game has changed a lot in the last 18 years so not really fair to compare stats.

this. the game now is much closer to flag/arena league. look at the NFL. passing records have been broken over and over again in the last 10 years

The game has definitely changed since Manning's college days, although I imagine he would've been running a very similar offense if he were coming up through college now rather than 20 years ago. Manning wouldn't work in a spread, obviously. So maybe there's some room for a comparison, but teams definitely ran more back in those days.

The game has changed with the advent of the spread uptempo passing offenses but pro style offenses have not changed as much. And since UM runs a 1990's slow tempo pound the ball pro style offense their numbers can be compared.

Just look at Mannings pass attempts and games compared to Brads in 1996. Manning actually had more passing attempts in 2 fewer games than Kaaya (380 attempts in 11 games to 378 in 13), so you could argue that Manning actually played in the more pass happy offense.

Moreover the 2014 Miami hurricanes actually ran the ball more than those 1996 Tennessee teams. Miami averaged 34.3 runs/game while 1996 Tennessee ran the ball 33 runs/game.

1996 Tennessee Volunteers Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

2014 Miami (FL) Hurricanes Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

 

[FrancisSawyer]

Let's give Coley some cred. Unless I'm mistaking wasn't Kayaa a no name qb from cali when Miami started to recruit him? He committed as a no name then blew the **** up. I belive that's why he stayed with Miami even after UCLA, the school that he wanted, came calling

Nobody is saying that Coley doesn't deserve credit for identifying Kaaya early. That's great and it was the main factor in Brad sticking with us. The issue here is whether or not Guldens and Coley are capable of putting him in the best position to use the tremendous talent he has. Everything starts at the top and Guldens track record and timid philosophy to say nothing of his penchant for micro managing doesn't exactly inspire much confidence.

 

[SoldierForThisU]

Yet if you listen to Folden's jizzmops they continue to squawk about Kaaya being the reason we stunk last year. They pound the "you can't win with a true freshman QB" drum.

I guess that begs the question, whose fault was it that we had to go with a true freshman QB in year 4?.

Ideally, you redshirt a QB. Last year was 2014. That means that a Redshirt Senior QB would have signed in 2010, redshirted that year, and played in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014. That hypothetical QB would have been signed by Shannon. Who was our signee that year? I'll wait.

Stephen Morris was a decent college QB. Golden had two recruiting cycles (if you don't include 2011) to find a good QB and they were all busts.

Agreed. They didn't get THE guy until the third complete cycle in 2014. That's a problem. The bigger issue over the last ten years is we haven't had a good QB since Berlin in 2004. I know Morris was decent. We don't need decent. We need good or better.

 

[SmokeyRone]

Berlin wasn't a good QB. In fact, relative to our elite status and talent back then, he was a disaster, who single handedly lost most of the games for us, and was the main obstacle to overcome in many of our wins (teams wouldnt do anything, just hang out and let Berlin keep them in the game: see the UT game, the VT games, FSU, Clemson, GT, etc))

Betting the program on a proven dud at UF, who was never going to play another down for the gatas, turned out to be the turning point for UM football. We never won again.

If berlin was QB in 2014, we would have gone 2-9.

 

[Cribby]

Berlin wasn't a good QB. In fact, relative to our elite status and talent back then, he was a disaster, who single handedly lost most of the games for us, and was the main obstacle to overcome in many of our wins (teams wouldnt do anything, just hang out and let Berlin keep them in the game: see the UT game, the VT games, FSU, Clemson, GT, etc))

Betting the program on a proven dud at UF, who was never going to play another down for the gatas, turned out to be the turning point for UM football. We never won again.

If berlin was QB in 2014, we would have gone 2-9.

Truth.

That team we had his first year was loaded, offensively and defensively . A retarded monkey could've gotten us to double figure wins. A decent qb we win a national title.

That defense was elite but Brock single handily lost us games. That was a lost season just because of the qb position.