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Justin Fuente next UM coach?

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I like it.
Last week he beat a #13th ranked Ole Miss (heck, he beat Cincinnati). This isn't a Temple situation.
Herman or Fuente.
Everyone tune in on November 14th to check out Houston/Memphis head-to-head.
 
Dingaan1828 said:
Rellyrell said:
KevinCaneFace said:
Herman comes with a better D.C. and his offense is top notch (not to mention recruiting skills) so he's my top pick but Fuente is an excellent coach so we'd be in great shape. They didn't just luck into a victory vs Ole Miss, they controlled the game with much less talent.
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If not mistaken, he took it to Ole Miss last yr too, b4 ultimately losing to them.
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I don't know if losing 24-3 and being out gained 426-104 could be described as taking it to them.
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From what I understand, and mind you, I'm going base off of ESPN's pre-game coverage before the match up, Memphis had them on the ropes for 2 1/2 qtrs before ultimately getting ran over. Just saying, if that's the case and they come back for "revenge" this year, that's not bad. Heck, I didn't even know Memphis had a D1 football program until Ryan Williams came over as a transfer. They stunk.
 
The year before he took over, Memphis was 2-10.

They lost, at home, to SMU, 42-0
They lost to Arkansas St, 47-3
They lost to Southern Miss, 44-7
They lost to Rice, 28-6
They lost to 7-loss UCF, 47-0

Now that, is about as bad as it gets.

3 years later they go 10-3, with the 3 losses being @ #11 UCLA, @ #10 Ole Miss, and 8-win Houston).

Now they're undefeated, having won @ Cincy (who whipped our ***) and against OM (who beat 'Bama).

What he has done there in 4 years is incredible.
 
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canadianhurricane said:
JimmyJohnsonsHair said:
I have zero confidence in our BOT to make a smart decision like this.
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100% agree.

UM doesn't like hiring edgy coaches who have a 'need' to win. They hire safe coaches who are happy to have the job. I'm not convinced our BOT cares about winning enough. Atleast winning more than the coastal
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I'm bracing for the inevitable Mario hire. ****, we have fans on Facebook clamoring for it. Our dopey adminsitration will probably consider it a coup.
 
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I keep hearing a lot about this Justin Fuente guy.

Can you guys tell me more about how he runs his program and how we can all be happier with his presence?
 
I would be more interested in Matt Campbell. He forced a run oriented team like Arkansas to pass the ball all night on its home field. That type of low scoring road upset is more meaningful, IMO, than taking advantage of non-conference frenzy at home to upset a gimmick team like Mississippi.

Mississippi upset Alabama using nothing but gadget plays and good fortune, like fumbled kick returns. They got a ridiculous touchdown on a broken play that should have been a turnover. It was impossible to watch that game without sensing how much of a fluke it was. When Mississippi's gadget finesse isn't working, they are vulnerable to being trampled by TCU in the bowl game or at Florida a few weeks ago. Those games reached 5 touchdown deficits if not slightly higher. They have been within Mississippi's most recent 8 games. Coaches like Patterson and McElwain are a cut above Freeze. It's hardly shocking that the vulnerable gadget coach failed on the road against an up and coming confident team like Memphis.

Campbell can blend spread offense with traditional power concepts. I loved it when I read recently that he recruits with a specific set of requirements in mind for every position, the physical makeup and mental makeup. He identifies the guys who fit both criteria and recruits them, instead of relying on conventional wisdom ratings. We need a special guy as coach. So do the Dolphins. Rah rah only takes you so far. It's been particularly sickening that both the Canes and Dolphins recently have so many guys who don't fit the perfect frame or traits for the position.

We don't like MAC coaches. I anticipate that bar stool argument. Based on a sample of one. We didn't like Teddy Bridgewater because he was a Northwestern quarterback, also based on a sample of one.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
I would be more interested in Matt Campbell. He forced a run oriented team like Arkansas to pass the ball all night on its home field. That type of low scoring road upset is more meaningful, IMO, than taking advantage of non-conference frenzy at home to upset a gimmick team like Mississippi.

Mississippi upset Alabama using nothing but gadget plays and good fortune, like fumbled kick returns. They got a ridiculous touchdown on a broken play that should have been a turnover. It was impossible to watch that game without sensing how much of a fluke it was. When Mississippi's gadget finesse isn't working, they are vulnerable to being trampled by TCU in the bowl game or at Florida a few weeks ago. Those games reached 5 touchdown deficits if not slightly higher. They have been within Mississippi's most recent 8 games. Coaches like Patterson and McElwain are a cut above Freeze. It's hardly shocking that the vulnerable gadget coach failed on the road against an up and coming confident team like Memphis.

Campbell can blend spread offense with traditional power concepts. I loved it when I read recently that he recruits with a specific set of requirements in mind for every position, the physical makeup and mental makeup. He identifies the guys who fit both criteria and recruits them, instead of relying on conventional wisdom ratings. We need a special guy as coach. So do the Dolphins. Rah rah only takes you so far. It's been particularly sickening that both the Canes and Dolphins recently have so many guys who don't fit the perfect frame or traits for the position.

We don't like MAC coaches. I anticipate that bar stool argument. Based on a sample of one. We didn't like Teddy Bridgewater because he was a Northwestern quarterback, also based on a sample of one.
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Above Fuente?
 
It's funny how some of you are so adamant and defensive about hiring another "up and comer" instead of demanding that we hire a proven entity. Sure, you might try to make the argument that you're selecting based on the budgetary restraints of the school but believing that is more flawed than wanting to roll the dice yet again on a freakin' unknown. I'm not even debating that Fuente won't be a big time excellent coach. I'm debating whether we even should take that risk again on an unproven entity- and yes, I'm no longer counting non-Power 5 success as proving anything in relation to the resumes we SHOULD be looking at.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
I would be more interested in Matt Campbell. He forced a run oriented team like Arkansas to pass the ball all night on its home field. That type of low scoring road upset is more meaningful, IMO, than taking advantage of non-conference frenzy at home to upset a gimmick team like Mississippi.

Mississippi upset Alabama using nothing but gadget plays and good fortune, like fumbled kick returns. They got a ridiculous touchdown on a broken play that should have been a turnover. It was impossible to watch that game without sensing how much of a fluke it was. When Mississippi's gadget finesse isn't working, they are vulnerable to being trampled by TCU in the bowl game or at Florida a few weeks ago. Those games reached 5 touchdown deficits if not slightly higher. They have been within Mississippi's most recent 8 games. Coaches like Patterson and McElwain are a cut above Freeze. It's hardly shocking that the vulnerable gadget coach failed on the road against an up and coming confident team like Memphis.

Campbell can blend spread offense with traditional power concepts. I loved it when I read recently that he recruits with a specific set of requirements in mind for every position, the physical makeup and mental makeup. He identifies the guys who fit both criteria and recruits them, instead of relying on conventional wisdom ratings. We need a special guy as coach. So do the Dolphins. Rah rah only takes you so far. It's been particularly sickening that both the Canes and Dolphins recently have so many guys who don't fit the perfect frame or traits for the position.

We don't like MAC coaches. I anticipate that bar stool argument. Based on a sample of one. We didn't like Teddy Bridgewater because he was a Northwestern quarterback, also based on a sample of one.
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Are you aware that Campbell was born in Norther Ohio, played college football in Northern Ohio, and has never coached anywhere else, but Northern Ohio?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Campbell_(American_football_coach)

Why would you be more interested in a guy who has no connection to the region, and hasn't coached or lived in anyplace other than Northern Ohio?

Fuente has coached in Ft. Worth, Texas and Memphis, Tennessee ... Who do you think would have the easier transition to South Florida?
 
Yes, above Fuente. I like Fuente but I'm not convinced he isn't a cupcake offensive type. Those guys get swamped when asked to run the table or close to it. I would cringe, for example, to have a Sumlin type as head coach. Not physical enough. When Texas A&M upset Alabama a few years ago with Manziel it was somewhat similar to Mississippi defeating Alabama this season. The run of play favored Alabama but Manziel created one big play after another. Now that Sumlin can't rely on that stuff to bail him out, Alabama dominates the line of scrimmage and wins handily every time they play.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
Yes, above Fuente. I like Fuente but I'm not convinced he isn't a cupcake offensive type. Those guys get swamped when asked to run the table or close to it. I would cringe, for example, to have a Sumlin type as head coach. Not physical enough. When Texas A&M upset Alabama a few years ago with Manziel it was somewhat similar to Mississippi defeating Alabama this season. The run of play favored Alabama but Manziel created one big play after another. Now that Sumlin can't rely on that stuff to bail him out, Alabama dominates the line of scrimmage and wins handily every time they play.
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I don't see that at all but agree to disagree.
 
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Tad Footeball said:
It's funny how some of you are so adamant and defensive about hiring another "up and comer" instead of demanding that we hire a proven entity. Sure, you might try to make the argument that you're selecting based on the budgetary restraints of the school but believing that is more flawed than wanting to roll the dice yet again on a freakin' unknown. I'm not even debating that Fuente won't be a big time excellent coach. I'm debating whether we even should take that risk again on an unproven entity- and yes, I'm no longer counting non-Power 5 success as proving anything in relation to the resumes we SHOULD be looking at.
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No argument, but proven entities aren't usually available, and if they are, UM usually can't get them.
 
[MENTION=2134]Awsi Dooger[/MENTION]'s on to something, Ohio has a track record of producing good to great coaches...Woody Hayes,the Harbaughs,Meyer,Paul Brown,Tressel,etc..
And I think that whole "transition to South Florida" thing is over-rated, who the **** knew who McElwain was before He pistol whooped Golden for Callaway,Cronkrite, & Scarlett.
Kids nowadays ain't dumb, it's nothing for em' to Google or YT a coach to find out who He is, and what He runs...if that checks out, all the new HC has to do is finish the deal in the living room.
 
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4th-and-14 said:
Tad Footeball said:
It's funny how some of you are so adamant and defensive about hiring another "up and comer" instead of demanding that we hire a proven entity. Sure, you might try to make the argument that you're selecting based on the budgetary restraints of the school but believing that is more flawed than wanting to roll the dice yet again on a freakin' unknown. I'm not even debating that Fuente won't be a big time excellent coach. I'm debating whether we even should take that risk again on an unproven entity- and yes, I'm no longer counting non-Power 5 success as proving anything in relation to the resumes we SHOULD be looking at.
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No argument, but proven entities aren't usually available, and if they are, UM usually can't get them.
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The last part of your statement is obviously our problem. Here's what's going to happen though. We're going to end up with an "up and comer" most likely named Mario Cristobal. Then it'll leak out that we made a "run" at some legit coach and lowballed him with an offer of $3 mil per year. It's common knowledge that $4 mil per is the baseline for a real head coach. So basically if we're ever going to believe that they were willing to spend $3 mil per then we're also going to end up having to believe that we remain an amateur hour outfit over about $2 mil per year ($1 mil more for the hc and $1 mil more for his staff). $2mil? That's only a $66 increase per season to their supposed base of 30000 season ticket holders if the clowns can't finance it themselves.
 
As much as i respect Butch for all the great talent he brought us. I just think his chance to accomplish greatness here is beyond gone.

If Fuente finishes out strong again this season. I would put him at the top of my want list. Other than him i would like this admin to swing for the fences and land someone who is winning and doing it frequent in a power 5 conf.
 
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