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Josh Pate Shreds Gattis on Late Kick

caneworld said:
Just frustrating how slow our offense plays... even in hurry up mode..

What's with the constant ..." set, break up, turn and look to the sidelines, reset, clap clap and finally snap" routine.
.... every **** play
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We have hurry up? I guess snapping with 10 secs left is an improvement
 
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Cribby said:
He was not. Looking back we were having issues finding an Oc and Gattis was unhappy at Michigan. Weiss being promoted to co OC apparently rustled his jimmies .It was good timing for both of them and saying “ I hired the Broyles award winner“ looks good publicly. Win wi…..well at the time.
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I would love to hear who Cristobal's top targets were. I know you likely won't put that out there and I also know there is a good chance seeing some of the names might be depressing knowing the types of offense they'd bring,
 
Here’s my theory on TVD, he has realized the Gattis system is trash and doesn’t believe in it, and now his nfl trajectory is fuqed

Garcia is still hungry
 
Cane6 said:
Here’s my theory on TVD, he has realized the Gattis system is trash and doesn’t believe in it, and now his nfl trajectory is fuqed

Garcia is still hungry
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It's likely more simple. The system does not take advantage of what TVD excels at and has him trying to do things he doesn't do well. This leads to him performing worse which leads to confidence levels dropping which leads to him performing worse, and so on.
 
TheProf said:
It's likely more simple. The system does not take advantage of what TVD excels at and has him trying to do things he doesn't do well. This leads to him performing worse which leads to confidence levels dropping which leads to him performing worse, and so on.
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In other words, the new staff has ruined him for no good reason.
 
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ddann said:
I’m other words, the new staff has ruined him for no good reason.
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Maybe Gattis though TVD would pick up on the system better? He likely did. Either way, it's evident TVD is not being used properly. That was evident in the spring game just like it was evident Parrish has poor hands yet we trusted him to catch a pass on 3rd down at aTm. It's on the coaches to realize what players can and cannot do and base their systems/play calls on that.

We're not seeing that at all with Gattis and hopefully it's a Gattis issue and not also a Mario issue.
 
TheProf said:
It's likely more simple. The system does not take advantage of what TVD excels at and has him trying to do things he doesn't do well. This leads to him performing worse which leads to confidence levels dropping which leads to him performing worse, and so on.
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How has Mario and Gattis been so dense to game plan an offense that doesn’t align with your star QB that you’ve been hyping all off season? Earlier in the year Mario even mentioned that he’d be foolish to not play to his strengths.
 
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SFbayCane said:
I made note of this in my game review post. It was a glaring difference. The WR's give up on routes WAAAY too often when TVD is on the field. My guess is that it might have something to do with the fact that TVD always looked for Restrepo when a play broke down. Garcia seemed to look all over the field when it happened while he was out there.
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So, you would have to believe if the average fan saw that, the coaching staff saw it too.... Are they aware there could be a potential issue in their locker room? Makes you wonder...

Garcia also looked for Mallory more than any other receiver during his time running the offense. Not sure if that was because it was the first read in the play or the fall back...
 
I think all of us thought that Mario and Gattis would adjust their scheme to fit the players until we get the guys in here to run the scheme he wants. Instead he brought the exact same scheme from Michigan and have ran it since day 1! That is coaching malpractice if you ask me and has me more concerned with Mario then anything. It's clear we are struggling to run this style of offense yet you do it anyway? You continue with the slow as a snail pace offense? Good coaches adjust their offense to fit the personnel they have, bad coaches run their offense no matter what personnel they have. Which one has been Mario so far?
 
TheProf said:
If we're so intent on running the ball at the goal line, we need not go into such tight formations. Any OC who does that is an idiot.

You want to run up the middle for a gain to get a score, so your logic is to formation shift all of your TE/WRs inside so that the entire defense is in a 8 yard box? I'm not against being a running team, but you have to at least be smart about it. Doing what we do is not being smart about it. If you want to gash teams on the ground, spread the defense out to create some light boxes.

If the logic is that MTSU is going to load the box regardless and we're bringing guys in to block, well I have news for Gattis, our guys have shown they cannot block that way. The plays were dead before they were even ran because of how we aligned ourselves. We're seeing the offensive equivalent of a Dorito defense having the LBs playing 6 yards deep in the end zone against GT at the 1 yard line.
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Agreed. I too noted that we ran our goal line offense out of very tight formations, telegraphing run every single time. It was as if our staff was convinced that we could just blow MTSU off the ball. That never happened.

Then we spread it out on 3rd down and telegraphed pass. Maddening.... and kind of amateurish from a play-calling perspective.
 
Dream School said:
Here's the Gattis segment for those that don't want to scroll the video
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For those of you commenting on Josh Pate's "angle" here - he's the real deal and he's a closet Miami fan. He's a big proponent of Miami getting back into the mix and was high on us in the preseason.

Nothing he says here is wrong; Michigan is now BETTER without Gattis and we are now WAY WORSE with Gattis. Our offense is a mess and there's a chance that it does real damage to our recruiting.

Defensively he's right as well - we assumed we could just go man-to-man and then refused to change our gameplan after they gashed us the first two times.
 
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Josh Pate is fine for college football content in the offseason, but let's be honest - he knows nothing about Xs and Os, nor does he know anything about Miami football.

I am not defending our offense, but Josh Pate is a "which way is the wind blowing" guy - he hops on the Miami train when we are hot, and is now jumping off at the first stop. **** that guy.
 
TheProf said:
If we're so intent on running the ball at the goal line, we need not go into such tight formations. Any OC who does that is an idiot.

You want to run up the middle for a gain to get a score, so your logic is to formation shift all of your TE/WRs inside so that the entire defense is in a 8 yard box? I'm not against being a running team, but you have to at least be smart about it. Doing what we do is not being smart about it. If you want to gash teams on the ground, spread the defense out to create some light boxes.

If the logic is that MTSU is going to load the box regardless and we're bringing guys in to block, well I have news for Gattis, our guys have shown they cannot block that way. The plays were dead before they were even ran because of how we aligned ourselves. We're seeing the offensive equivalent of a Dorito defense having the LBs playing 6 yards deep in the end zone against GT at the 1 yard line.
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I've been railing on coaches for 15 years for doing this. Makes no sense to bring extra defenders into the box by your formation. It just creates a mass of humanity and increases the odds that somebody misses a block and the play gets blown up
 
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