Josh Pate on Miami-Texas A&M

[Cane Fan 4 Life]

WTF is this guy smoking…

- 3 $EC teams with one loss ahead of us, including A&M…who we man-handled.
- Alabama ahead of Texas…who beat them.
- A two loss Clemson team who lost to Duke is ahead of us.

I feel like this is Who’s Line is it Anyway… where everything isn’t real and the games/points don’t matter.

 

[Cane Fan 4 Life]

The rankings are based off a computer model he has nothing to do with it. That being said that model is complete garbage.

Sounds like they are worse than the BCS computers.

 

[Kalikgod]

Here is another model to pick apart, lol. https://collegefootballnerds.com/ComputerModel###

This one loves the Canes currently, only Washington and Duke are favored over us.

 

[TemplarCane]

Don't let Josh Pate bulls*** you. The "model" they run is structured to produce weird results because weird results generates clicks and views. They know what they're doing. Josh Pate knows what they're doing in.

So he’s ‘ranking for clicks, not ranking for wins’? Based on flash, not substance?

 

[DamnLiesAndStatistics]

I don't think anyone is making up results but if you choose metrics and construct the model in a way that you know will be at odds with others you can be assured you'll stand out. I don't think there's vendettas, I think that's just a byproduct.

All these sites depend on traffic. There is very little value in producing a reasonable result and a massive amount of value in being shocking.

If I was in their position I would do the same thing.

He bets on this model and gives out picks on a weekly basis, so there's some level of belief in it.

From the last show, he said the model would currently have ATM favored over us by a tenth of a point. He also mentioned adjusting FSU above Clemson (not sure why he didnt do the same for us over ATM). Why am I bringing that up? It tells me the top 4 ACC teams are essentially a pick 'em on a neutral field if the computer is to be believed.

If you believe this and all teams hold serve the next few weeks, we'll be between -1 and +1 @UNC, similar vs Clemson, and maybe -4 to -5 @FSU (-3 of that comes from it being in Tally). Potentially some value if you can find a good current UM vs FSU line. Might be able to get extra points now.

 

[DamnLiesAndStatistics]

speaking of ESPN's formula, it's actually ranking us highly based on actual performance this year..

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I've consistently thought FPI was trash amd the worst public model, but **** would I like this to be true

 

[JD08]

Shut your filthy mouth...that computer model is the product of years of investment and research at multiple top SEC universities...

 

[TexasCane90]

This is pretty embarrassing for a guy who likes to try and “keep it real” on his show