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WestEndzone said:
Air raid cucks are taking this beat down personally. I don’t have a (dawg) in the fight, but it’s still funny to see. I think air raid is fine. Run that if you think that’s what is best for your program.

Everyone knows 335 has trouble with 12 personnel based systems. If you argue with me, you don’t know anything and should ask to be taught something. I’m sure it works great in the Big12.

We need better dudes and we need to run whats best for the dudes we have until we get better dudes.
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Monken came from air raid lol
 
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DTP said:
They don’t get it. They think Air Raid = Only passing the ball. They think any team that runs the ball with a good offensive line is running the same offense that Josh Gattis does. They watch some Miami football and the CFP games.
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sonny dykes had a 1400 yard rusher. when is the last time miami had that in whatever scheme they wanted to run?
 
DTP said:
They don’t get it. They think Air Raid = Only passing the ball. They think any team that runs the ball with a good offensive line is running the same offense that Josh Gattis does. They watch some Miami football and the CFP games.
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they think you can only be mike leach if you run an air raid or have air raid concepts. you need to be balanced vs full on leach. the concepts work whihc is so many teams have implemented those concepts. literally no one runs the bro style anymore outside of harbaugh and theyll never win big w that O. it works against teams w lesser talent but nowhere near enough when the talent advatnage isnt htere. no matter how many stars mario gets on the OL, it will never to a point where UGAs was against TCU in a h2h with UGA. youre gonna need to coach to beat the elite of the elite bc there wont be a talent advantage
 
WestEndzone said:
Air raid cucks are taking this beat down personally. I don’t have a (dawg) in the fight, but it’s still funny to see. I think air raid is fine. Run that if you think that’s what is best for your program.

Everyone knows 335 has trouble with 12 personnel based systems. If you argue with me, you don’t know anything and should ask to be taught something. I’m sure it works great in the Big12.

We need better dudes and we need to run whats best for the dudes we have until we get better dudes.
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fresssh said:
Give us a team full of 6 stars and were still getting blown out TCU style against UGA. Going to be so sick of hearing about talent. Without a coaching staff, talent dont mean ****.
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we have more talent than tcu last year and we still get blown out by them. talent wasnt an issue in our losses save for clemson. we arent hte most talented but we have more stars than the teams across from more often than not in this conference. coaching does matter.
 
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Cribby said:
Uga has talent , scheme , coaching , development , S&C / nutrition and investing in the program . Saying it’s just talent is being too dismissive of what’s going on there.
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I agree, but the biggest reason that UGA and Bama and OSU are always in the playoff is because they have the best players, plain and simple
 
BeastMode said:
Bennett had allllllll day to throw. It was such a mismatch in the trenches. TCU got dominated on both sides of the ball. One day half of this board will wake up and stop calling ppl mopes when we point out our roster isn’t even close to competing.

Outside of Kam, there isn’t a single player in our two deep who would play at Georgia. Even Kam would struggle to be in the two deep.

Mario needs top 5 range classes over and over and over and over for us to get to Georgia, Bama and OSU levels. Hoping he can get us there.
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Completely agree, the freak athletes they have at every position is scary.
 
TimeBum said:
Playoff era started in 2014.

2016 Clemson - (#9 247 composite , 4 5 stars) over Bama (#1, 17 5 stars)


2019 Clemson (#9, 7 5 stars) over Bama (#1, 11 5 stars).

2020 LSU (#6, 7 5 stars) over Clemson (#4, 11 5 stars)

3 out of 9 years. So 1/3 of time of the
considerably less talented (on paper) opponent beat the more talented opponent. 2 of these these Ws were total demolitions of the "better" opponent.

And there were "almosts" by considerably less talented teams

2015 Clemson (#13, 4 5 stars) lost 45-40 to Bama (#1, 15 5 stars)


So nearly half the time (44%)in the playoff era, a team with much less talent than the opponent beat or nearly beat the more talented opponent. 44% - so no, this is not anecdotal.

The key # seems to be 7. That's the minimum number of 5 stars to be competitive. Once you get that number, then coaching can make the difference.

I'll say it over and over again - if Miami is going to copy a blueprint, it should copy Clemsons. I don't think its realistic to expect Miami to have 17 5 stars. And no one has ever called Dabo a schematic genius. He is a CEO type coach through and through, but hit on key positions- QB and WR consistently, and had a good eye for finding underrated 3 and 4 star talent. Surprisingly, I think Cristobal is recruiting OL far better than Dabo, but he is getting spanked in the QB and WR department He needs to hire an OC that excites recruits and let's them believe they will put up video game numbers.
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While I agree your reasoning is sound I wholeheartedly disagree that we should try to copy Clemson’s approach.

Clemson’s approach would never have worked without back to back to back extremely great/generational QBs. It’s much harder to hit on almost every recruit like they did instead of going the UGA/Bama route of recruiting.

Clemson also had the same staff for a decade. It’s not reasonable to think we could do the same thing as Clemson. We may not be able to do what Bama and UGA are doing but it’s much more realistic than what Clemson did.
 
DTP said:
They don’t get it. They think Air Raid = Only passing the ball. They think any team that runs the ball with a good offensive line is running the same offense that Josh Gattis does. They watch some Miami football and the CFP games.
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Monken may have coached in the air raid but what he is running is far from the base air raid stuff.
 
UGA played just about a perfect game last night. 1 mental error on the long pass play and that was about it.
 
BeastMode said:
Bennett had allllllll day to throw. It was such a mismatch in the trenches. TCU got dominated on both sides of the ball. One day half of this board will wake up and stop calling ppl mopes when we point out our roster isn’t even close to competing.

Outside of Kam, there isn’t a single player in our two deep who would play at Georgia. Even Kam would struggle to be in the two deep.

Mario needs top 5 range classes over and over and over and over for us to get to Georgia, Bama and OSU levels. Hoping he can get us there.
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I think arguments such as these can be a bit off base. A good majority of the former Miami players were recruited by the likes of Bama, UGA, Clemson, LSU etc. Had they signed with a Bama or UGA instead of Miami who's to say they wouldn't have become high quality players due to receiving much better strength training, development, coaching than they've gotten at Miami. As high as GA's class has ranked the past 5 or 6 years, even they have 3 stars who have seen the field in action. **** Stetson Bennett was a 2 star walk on who left for JC and came back to UGA. You d top level talent but coaching and development definitely matters also.
 
San Amaro Dr said:
Monken may have coached in the air raid but what he is running is far from the base air raid stuff.
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By “base Air Raid stuff” are you talking about Hal Mumme/ Mike Leach stuff? Because nobody is running that now. Today’s modern coaches use those passing concepts and apply them to their own system. Georgia uses a ton of vertical routes straight from the air Raid playbook. Just because they use tight ends doesn’t mean they’re not running a lot of the same concepts. ****, they sent their big tight end on more vertical routes in last night’s game than Mallory got the entire seasons
 
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How was last night an indictment of the Air Raid?

The 32nd ranked recruiting roster went up against the number 2.

TCU’s average recruit rank of its roster was 87. UGA’s was 93. TCU’s roster was closer to having a 2* ranking than it was matching UGA’s ranking.

Schemes were irrelevant last night.

But surely people don’t think TCU would have been better off this season not running the offense they were running? But instead bunching they box and going under center?
 
mossmadness said:
How was last night an indictment of the Air Raid?

The 32nd ranked recruiting roster went up against the number 2.

TCU’s average recruit rank of its roster was 87. UGA’s was 93. TCU’s roster was closer to having a 2* ranking than it was matching UGA’s ranking.

Schemes were irrelevant last night.

But surely people don’t think TCU would have been better off this season not running the offense they were running? But instead bunching they box and going under center?
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also monken caem from the air raid. they dotn run the three yards and a cloud of dust offense we think they do. they run a modern O with a air raid concepts in their passing schemes.
 
you dont need to be mike leach on O to incorporate air raid concepts in your passing offense. you can be a balanced team while running a lot more modern concepts on O especially in the passing game (where a lot of the modern offenses today took from the air raid). sonny dykes is an air raid guy and still had a RB go for 1399 yards this year.
 
Remember everyone here calling him Kirby Dumb ( myself included) 3 years ago? Then he hired T Monken and handed the qb job to a walk-on.
 
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