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Jarren Williams Three Interceptions

ddann said:
Remember when it was all Stacy Searles' fault?
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Man I was 100% on that train. Now I don't even know what to think. I know one things for sure, if I was the coach not one of them would have an ounce of body fat. I'd run their asses to death.
 
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brock said:
Is n’kosi Perry arm weak? Most people would say no right? But I mean He had an underthrown deep ball too or are we just going continue this mantra that Jarren has a noodle arm? Of course foster commented that they felt they can break on the ball because if you look just at the last 2 games alone before va tech Jarren could have thrown 2 ints vs Bethune and 1 vs cmu so of course they notated that on film and felt they could make a play.


in terms of the deep ball It’s a mechanics issue for both of those guys. When you have 2 qbs underthrowing true deep balls that’s mechanics. None of those ints had anything to do with arm strength(yes I’m including the deep ball) it’s more so a breakdown in mechanics and not stepping into the throw. First int was pass interference that was a no call, 3rd int the oline was whipped and he was hit as he was throwing the ball but still.
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Mechanics and **** poor timing. Their internal clocks need calibrating.
 
Roman Marciante said:
I am in the process of rendering the final FTP which will be a culmination of 19 narrated clips this week. While that is going on in the background I am going to try to strike it up on the forums. Here are Jarren's three interceptions explained from the breakdown.


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He was hella late with the throw. It is like he had a hard time with timing routes. That ball should have been out his hand before Harley made is cut
 
clg003 said:
I just dont understand how its not obvious to people that Jarren simply cannot make all the throws. He has been short on every single long pass he has thrown and he never tries to hit guys running down the sideline. His % is high because he only makes safe short throws. It like the offense version of bend dont break and it also keeps every one in the middle close enough to stop the run. Its why we dont score but dominate time of possession.
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I think the argument at this point is between him not having the strength and not having the mechanics. I think he can probably make the throws if he steps into them, but he doesn't. Maybe he's afraid his *** OL will get him killed if he steps up, or maybe he's just not all there mentally right now. I think this is actually an important distinction.
 
brock said:
Is n’kosi Perry arm weak? Most people would say no right? But I mean He had an underthrown deep ball too or are we just going continue this mantra that Jarren has a noodle arm? Of course foster commented that they felt they can break on the ball because if you look just at the last 2 games alone before va tech Jarren could have thrown 2 ints vs Bethune and 1 vs cmu so of course they notated that on film and felt they could make a play.


in terms of the deep ball It’s a mechanics issue for both of those guys. When you have 2 qbs underthrowing true deep balls that’s mechanics. None of those ints had anything to do with arm strength(yes I’m including the deep ball) it’s more so a breakdown in mechanics and not stepping into the throw. First int was pass interference that was a no call, 3rd int the oline was whipped and he was hit as he was throwing the ball but still.
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How was that 1st int a PI...db made a good play. I've watched that play over and over and still don't understand why some would say it was PU
 
Roman Marciante said:
I am in the process of rendering the final FTP which will be a culmination of 19 narrated clips this week. While that is going on in the background I am going to try to strike it up on the forums. Here are Jarren's three interceptions explained from the breakdown.


Pick 1


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Roman, well done man.
 
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brock said:
He was hit as he was throwing the ball near his legs so he couldn’t drive the ball. The deep ball has been a problem of his most of the season because he’s not using his legs to generate power. And yes Perry was pretty **** impressive but there was a clear difference in playcalling as well. Whoever the qb is the rest of the way i hope that continues and we stop playing in these tight bunch formations and or using the full back so much
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Agree we need to go far more spread from here on out, nothing to lose.
 
kryptonite said:
I think the argument at this point is between him not having the strength and not having the mechanics. I think he can probably make the throws if he steps into them, but he doesn't. Maybe he's afraid his *** OL will get him killed if he steps up, or maybe he's just not all there mentally right now. I think this is actually an important distinction.
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If you do not have any body of evidence (no mater the size) that shows when he does hit someone down field in stride. Then you only got wishful thinking. He is also not on an island. We need the best player in there to win with the rest of the players on the field not to wish.
 
Roman Marciante said:
I am in the process of rendering the final FTP which will be a culmination of 19 narrated clips this week. While that is going on in the background I am going to try to strike it up on the forums. Here are Jarren's three interceptions explained from the breakdown.


Pick 1


Pick 2


Pick 3
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Your tone on the Deejay Dallas run clip says it all. Not sure why we have to make it so hard on ourselves.
 
clg003 said:
If you do not have any body of evidence (no mater the size) that shows when he does hit someone down field in stride. Then you only got wishful thinking. He is also not on an island. We need the best player in there to win with the rest of the players on the field not to wish.
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I didn't say anything about accuracy or if he could actually hit the receiver. What I said was that I think he can probably make the throws in a perfect world. Others argue that he can't physically make them.

In the end it doesn't really matter, the point is he's not making the throws. I was just responding to you saying it was obvious he can't do it. I took that to mean he wasn't physically able, and I don't think that's true.

I will however point out that posters always think they have the answers but they don't see practice. I'm not thrilled with Manny right now, but I don't think he's a complete idiot. There's something that he sees from Williams or doesn't see from Perry that he thinks is more important than going downfield. I don't know what it is, but ask yourself this? Would you rather have the guy who keeps it short and doesn't turn it over or throw many incompletions, or the inaccurate guy who can throw a pretty long ball?
 
kryptonite said:
I didn't say anything about accuracy or if he could actually hit the receiver. What I said was that I think he can probably make the throws in a perfect world. Others argue that he can't physically make them.

In the end it doesn't really matter, the point is he's not making the throws. I was just responding to you saying it was obvious he can't do it. I took that to mean he wasn't physically able, and I don't think that's true.

I will however point out that posters always think they have the answers but they don't see practice. I'm not thrilled with Manny right now, but I don't think he's a complete idiot. There's something that he sees from Williams or doesn't see from Perry that he thinks is more important than going downfield. I don't know what it is, but ask yourself this? Would you rather have the guy who keeps it short and doesn't turn it over or throw many incompletions, or the inaccurate guy who can throw a pretty long ball?
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I would have said keep it short at the beginning of the year and I dont feel like I need to see practice because its a controlled experiment. Jarren will always beat out Nkosi in those types of situations because he is more accurate and can put together a series or two in a controlled environment better. I also have to preface my opinion with... I was perhaps the biggest Nkosi critic of all time coming into this season. But the issue with this offense on game day has been from day 1 of this season that it takes too many plays to score and with its discipline and its poor offensive line we keep getting caught up in 3rd and long and its killing drives. CMU put together a blueprint to beat us that worked off our stiff and slow oline play and Jarren's refusal to throw to the boundaries. Which makes sense because even when a guy breaks wide open he cant score because he has to turn around for the ball and gets caught from behind. I was surprised that VT didnt line up their ends wide but they didnt need to. Nkosi provides us with the ability to open up the field and to pick up some needed yards on busted plays with QB run and he also senses pressure better. I realize Nkosi adds a turnover risk but at this point I thinks its a better risk to utilize your big play talents than expect this team to turn into the 1990 49ers.
 
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