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Issiah Walker update…

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Billy D Williams said:
I'm all for Mental Health, but everybody has to deal with the forces of real life even after therapy. It would greatly help him cope if he got on the field and dealt with class, teammates, coaches and performed well. Ultimately he'll feel better if he feels he's successful.
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CIS knows it can count on you to make another dumb idiotic post.
 
Billy D Williams said:
I wasn't being unsympathetic towards Walker or any person dealing with Mental illness. My primary point is that outside of meds, therapy has to address dealing with whatever your mental issue is. I have seen enough sessions and dealing with real world realities are discussed often.
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I get where you're coming from however it's not a one size fits all kinda thing.

I deal with it from an ex-military perspective and some treatments work better for some issues and others work better on other issues.

Depends on the person and their individual needs and circumstances.
 
Billy D Williams said:
I'm all for Mental Health, but everybody has to deal with the forces of real life even after therapy. It would greatly help him cope if he got on the field and dealt with class, teammates, coaches and performed well. Ultimately he'll feel better if he feels he's successful.
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I'm gonna go ahead and assume he has a better handle on what will make him feel better than I do. Or you.
 
Billy D Williams said:
I wasn't being unsympathetic towards Walker or any person dealing with Mental illness. My primary point is that outside of meds, therapy has to address dealing with whatever your mental issue is. I have seen enough sessions and dealing with real world realities are discussed often.
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Again, I'll defer to him, but you're not wrong here. Sometimes actually doing things can be helpful, and there's a ton of research linking exercise and mood.
 
ASUCane said:
Do you know what treatment plan Issiah is following? Are you a certified therapist or mental health expert?

People need to fall back. His treatment is working, that’s great news, and we should unconditionally support him through his recovery because that shít is a rough road to travel. But pontificating on what works best for everyone is part of the problem in how we approach mental health as a society.
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I didn’t suggest a treatment regimen but commented on the physiology/mechanism of action and supported the previous statement that getting back to a routine is beneficial…in conjunction with CBT +/- meds.

We approach mental health as we do with any other medical illness, with evidence based treatments and an understanding of the physiology of the disease.

If you want mental illness to be taken seriously then it should be discussed openly and honestly, not with hushed whispers.
 
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This is great news. I am not running with this as he will play in 22, but boy if he was lining up come Fall camp and competing, I would be happy. He is needed.
 
Obcane said:
The fact that cognitive behavioral therapy is more effective than antidepressant shows that positive thoughts and behaviors can reverse/stabilize the chemical imbalance. Getting back to work/play and achieving daily successes goes a long way to treating depression (and anxiety).
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CBT hasn't been definitively shown to be more effective than medications; depends on the study you read. Most recommend a combination approach with CBT and meds.

CBT really isn't about positive thinking, it's about exploring your negative thought processes and retraining your way of thinking.
 
Billy D Williams said:
I'm all for Mental Health, but everybody has to deal with the forces of real life even after therapy. It would greatly help him cope if he got on the field and dealt with class, teammates, coaches and performed well. Ultimately he'll feel better if he feels he's successful.
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I'm on the bounce-back myself right now. And holy **** is it humbling..

And let my say that mental health is dynamic and it has to be handled on a per-person basis.

I'm not in any therapy (not saying it's bad), but I feel more like myself when I get back to my craft or my hobbies.

I think you have a point. After all, you're only offering your recommendation.

No shade from this way.
 
Nopain said:
CBT hasn't been definitively shown to be more effective than medications; depends on the study you read. Most recommend a combination approach with CBT and meds.

CBT really isn't about positive thinking, it's about exploring your negative thought processes and retraining your way of thinking.
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Agreed that it depends on studies but CBT generally beats meds by about 5-10% in most reviews and textbooks. Considering not having any side effects (aside from not working) I prefer it as first line therapy over meds. Most prefer combination therapy which is reasonable since CBT is slower and takes more motivation for it to be successful.

As for "positive thinking", that was just a colloquial way of saying subtracting negative (distorted) cognitions and behaviors.
 
djnellz said:
CIS knows it can count on you to make another dumb idiotic post.
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I support Mental Health because I have know a couple people that needed professional help. I also know that when they leave the facility or session they have to return to their homes/real world. Treatment always focuses on returning any patient to a sense of normalcy, whatever it might be for that person. I can accept that not everyone shares my views, but when a person competent enough to comment and not express opinion, I generally ignore.
 
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Billy D Williams said:
I'm all for Mental Health, but everybody has to deal with the forces of real life even after therapy. It would greatly help him cope if he got on the field and dealt with class, teammates, coaches and performed well. Ultimately he'll feel better if he feels he's successful.
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And just how do you know this to be true? Everyone has issues and who are we to judge how significant his issues are.
 
Billy D Williams said:
I'm all for Mental Health, but everybody has to deal with the forces of real life even after therapy. It would greatly help him cope if he got on the field and dealt with class, teammates, coaches and performed well. Ultimately he'll feel better if he feels he's successful.
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You’ll get a lot of **** for this. The participation medal crowd doesn’t like to hear it but not everyone is cut out for the pressure. All of the athletes coming out and saying the need mental health breaks today aren’t a new phenomena. In years passed they’d just get lumped in with a broader amount of “busts” and washouts.

I hope everyone who needs help gets it, but if you have such severe mental issues you likely won’t make it in any elite pursuit.
 
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