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Is the Superteam dead?

The rich will continue to get rich and richer. The $$$ cap will depend on how much a school can and is willing to spend. Taint was an example of that last year.
 
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DMoney said:
This got me to thinking: is Ohio State 2024 the last "Super Team" in college football?
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Best team in the nation…Yes

Super Team? No

Overall you make a great point and it will be interesting to see if the trend continues, but I believe it already started. But I have them as at least a 6 pt. dog to 2022 GA, 2019 LSU, 2020 Bama… Maybe even a TD dog.

They were definitely impressive, but even in the playoffs I don't believe say 2024 Oregon for instance was within a TD of some of the runner-up teams of recent years.
 
Jedi Master Cane said:
I’m Deloitte alumni , I can tell you things will most definitely be in a better place with them providing oversight .

Still a ton of questions of who and how much power each of the bodies will have in this new world though . Stay tuned .
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Please explain.
 
Please always separate roster spending cap arguments from NIL arguments. It is possible for schools to collectively agree to put a limit on how much money the schools can spend on a roster. Indeed, the limit used to be $0 over the table, which simply drove the spending under the table.

It is impossible for schools to limit how much money an athlete can make off his/her NIL. Impossible. Our Supreme Court has written as much, and will quickly decide in favor of unrestricted NIL if any more cases reach it. Now does that mean NIL in its current state with school collectives, or NIL in its intended state of private business paying athletes for their NIL? I can’t answer this question, but the courts likely will. But at most we are back to discussing the form of NIL, as opposed to the existence of NIL.

But make no mistake, the cat is out of the bag in regards to NIL. College athletes, just like the rest of us, can earn income from their NIL.
 
bdcane4eva said:
so we still got people thinking...in America...we are going to put a limit on what people can earn huh?
okay...
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NFL, NBA, MLB all do it. Intercollegiate athletics might pose a challenge but it’s not out of the realm of possibilities that the top 4 conferences become a collectively bargained, commissioner ran college football league.
 
skeeter said:
Best team in the nation…Yes

Super Team? No

Overall you make a great point and it will be interesting to see if the trend continues, but I believe it already started. But I have them as at least a 6 pt. dog to 2022 GA, 2019 LSU, 2020 Bama… Maybe even a TD dog.

They were definitely impressive, but even in the playoffs I don't believe say 2024 Oregon for instance was within a TD of some of the runner-up teams of recent years.
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Couldn’t agree more. OSU wasn’t a super team, they got beat by an 8-4 Michigan team.
 
CaneThang2020 said:
NFL, NBA, MLB all do it. Intercollegiate athletics might pose a challenge but it’s not out of the realm of possibilities that the top 4 conferences become a collectively bargained, commissioner ran college football league.
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So another pro football league..cool!
And that's not limits on earnings..it's agreed upon contracts.
Point is...there's no way out of this except going back to the Sabanesque days or a pro league.
So to the original query...are superteams dead..depends on what happens and how.
 
Yea super teams are done for which sucks. It’s nice to see that one super team destroy everyone unless it’s a rival, so that’s anyone but Miami. I wanted us to have a super team badly man. You can though have a super talented roster along with like 4 other teams
 
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Miami keeping more 5 stars home will create more parity than any 3rd party "oversight". Does Ohio State win last year without Jeremiah Smith? Does Alabama win all those championships if they can't raid S. Fla? I think not good sir, I think not
 
As DMoni said, the days of teams with 5 star players sitting on the bench waiting their turn to play are over. A lot of those guys will jump ship if they see the chance to play at another school. If the definition of "super teams" is a team that has multiple 5 star players at the same positions, then I think we have seen the end of that.
 
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Definitely not over. There will be a blue blood who hasn’t won a natty in years that will break the bank for one year of dominance. All it takes is belief in the coach and what he brings to the table and any person with love for the program will open their wallets. Hopefully it is us.
 
DMoney said:
The past couple months, I've dipped my toe into national CFB coverage with Group Chat Sports (please support by liking and subscribing here).

One thing I've learned: every team, no matter how blue blood, has roster concerns. Powerhouses like Ohio State and Alabama are just as worried about DT depth as we are. Even though it was only a half-decade ago, it feels like a long time since Georgia and Alabama stacked their rosters with five stars on the bench. Now, those blue chippers move on the moment they don't play.

Even guys like Damon Wilson (a five-star EDGE slated to be the top rusher for UGA this year) are being poached by the Missouris of the world. In 2020, it was unthinkable that Vanderbilt could upset Alabama. But when it happened this year, it didn't even feel like a fluke.

This got me to thinking: is Ohio State 2024 the last "Super Team" in college football? That team was the result of blue-blood recruiting, unrestricted NIL, and years of booster frustration caused by Michigan. Now, we're entering a potential salary cap era with third-party enforcement.

There's always the risk of selective enforcement, which happened during the Mark Emmert era. Miami got hit for Benihana's dinners while Emmert's friend Nick Saban paid everyone under the table. But the third-party enforcer (Deloitte) is an almost 200-year-old company with half a million employees across the world. They're unlikely to be as corrupt and incompetent as the NCAA.

Is the parity we experienced in 2024 an aberration, or a sign of things to come?
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All depends if nick satan gets his way
 
TriStarCane said:
NIL cap = more $$ under the table = more of a return to pre NIL days imo
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There is no legal method to cap NIL money. I’ve written this over and over again. Please read Justice Kavanugh’s concurring opinion in the Alston case.
And since most of you won’t read it, or don’t know how to access it (consider using Google), here is a small part of what he wrote.

“To be sure, the NCAA and its member colleges maintain important traditions that have become part of the fabric of America. But those traditions alone cannot justify the NCAA’s decision to build a massive money-raising enterprise on the backs of student athletes who are not fairly compensated. Nowhere else in America can businesses get away with agreeing not to pay their workers a fair market rate on the theory that their product is defined by not paying their workers a fair market rate. And under ordinary principles of antitrust law, it is not evident why college sports should be any different. The NCAA is not above the law.”

This to me is the most relevant part of the concurrence (which means he voted with the majority but issued his own opinion). Even a salary cap achieved without collective bargaining will be deemed against the law, IMO, by this Court.

You guys make all the arguments you want for, against and otherwise, but please look at and understand the legal issues so that our discussions are grounded.
 
Citizen Cane said:
Miami keeping more 5 stars home will create more parity than any 3rd party "oversight". Does Ohio State win last year without Jeremiah Smith? Does Alabama win all those championships if they can't raid S. Fla? I think not good sir, I think not
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Don’t forget bamas OOS and in state talent which was just as good as the sfla talent
 
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I don’t think Ohio State was a super team. Can’t be a super team with two losses, and multiple near losses. In past seasons they would not have made the playoffs. To their credit, they got hot in the playoffs and swept the field but super team? No.

I think it’s possible to have such a team but unlikely. It would take a team culture like Clemson had a few years ago when many potential first round picks came back for one more year. And that was pre-NIL and pre-transfer portal.

I don’t think a team could collect enough talent to have enough depth.

A lot of teams have money to spend and a lot of players are looking for a payday. College careers are short, so there’s little long-term thinking. The odds of making the NFL are not good no matter who you are so an opportunity to make a big bag now is even more important. Yes the best players or NFL prospects, but there’s always the risk of injury and simply not living up to potential. A lot of elite recruits bust. Players is not earning sufficient playing time, in their opinion, will seek to move on or be poached.
 
No. There will be another program that goes on a run by recruiting well-built young men. We had this debate over drinks at Le Boy recently. But, that team won’t be Miami.
 
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