Is Brian Kelly a corch?

[Ibis Wingz]

Not complicated. Pass defense has really fallen off since VanGorder took over as defensive coordinator in 2014. That's my cherished stat, so often the hidden truth.

These are the Yards Per Attempt Allowed since Kelly has been at Notre Dame:

2010: 6.4 (28th nationally)
2011: 6.5 (24th)
2012: 6.0 (13th)
2013: 6.3 (16th)
2014: 7.3 (84th)
2015: 6.9 (54th)

Pass defense looked awful again tonight, surrendering so many over the top plays and causing the huge deficit.

fk off *******


You are the biggest fraud since DannyBoy and that's saying something

Awsi Booger is a scientist of football.

 

[Pete]

He doesn't have access to talent like other teams. He's a good coach. ND was dead in the water for 20 years before he got there.

Doesn't have access to talent.He has every Catholic priest in the country recruiting for him,of course if the recruit doesn't go to Mass that could be a problem!

 

[Jmhcane]

He doesn't have access to talent like other teams. He's a good coach. ND was dead in the water for 20 years before he got there.

Doesn't have access to talent.He has every Catholic priest in the country recruiting for him,of course if the recruit doesn't go to Mass that could be a problem!

Whatever academic limitations there are, ND recruits nationally, owns Chicago and has pick of the litter from the NE.
They get top players from Cali, Texas and even Florida. Boo F***ing hoo

 

[Canedog]

Da publicity about all da priests molesting children has hurt recruiting at Catholic schools like Notre Dame.

 

[The Franchise]

the pornstar D coordinator from ND that Franchise and all these fake gurus worship got asss raped

Congratulations. You have a long memory for things related to me, cumbreath.

BVG got my hype back when he had Coach Rick's hype too--before the proliferation of spread offenses and read-option attacks. He hasn't adapted well to these new offenses, but neither has anyone else.

Charlie Strong was a dominant DC back in the day. He's been getting annihilated every week since he got to Texas and has to deal with those spread attacks. He finally got to the can't beat em join em level of frustration that Gary Patterson reached a couple years ago when he scrapped his defense-first approach and went to the outscore em philosophy. Nick Saban, with a roster two deep with 5 stars, struggles to stop good spread teams.

It's a different game than it was when I was hyping BVG, fckmouth. There are no more dominant defenses in college football. No one is shutting these high-octane offenses down. Before Strong went to the spread this year, BVG held him to 150 yards last year and a couple points.

Having said all that, if we don't torch that ND secondary then Rick isn't who I thought he was as an offensive football mind.

 

[BoxingRobes]

226-81-2 at four different schools, 7-5 in bowl games with two D2 national championships and 3 conference championships, and two top five finishes in D1. Tough to be considered a corch with that resume. Perhaps a bit overrated as a coach though.

I think its just really tough to win big consistently at Notre Dame in this era of college football, especially when you've got Ohio State and Michigan peaking.

 

[canecat]

he isn't a top 10 coach but he is a top 25 coach and good. So no where near a corch. A corch is what USC ( the SEC version ) has . A corch is what UK has . I could go on.

 

[Footballhelmet]

226-81-2 at four different schools, 7-5 in bowl games with two D2 national championships and 3 conference championships, and two top five finishes in D1. Tough to be considered a corch with that resume. Perhaps a bit overrated as a coach though.

I think its just really tough to win big consistently at Notre Dame in this era of college football, especially when you've got Ohio State and Michigan peaking.

You're largely citing his stats at D2 Grand Valley State.

If you have to defend an FBS coach by citing his D2 stats, you know he's a corch.

 

[Footballhelmet]

I'll say this to the board. Would you consider Richt a corch if he goes 55-24 in his first 79 games at Miami? Because I would.

 

[Grisha.Otrepyev]

He doesn't have access to talent like other teams. He's a good coach. ND was dead in the water for 20 years before he got there.

Doesn't have access to talent.He has every Catholic priest in the country recruiting for him,of course if the recruit doesn't go to Mass that could be a problem!

They have a top 5 roster based solely on recruit rankings.

Recruting ain't the problem...

 

[BoxingRobes]

226-81-2 at four different schools, 7-5 in bowl games with two D2 national championships and 3 conference championships, and two top five finishes in D1. Tough to be considered a corch with that resume. Perhaps a bit overrated as a coach though.

I think its just really tough to win big consistently at Notre Dame in this era of college football, especially when you've got Ohio State and Michigan peaking.

You're largely citing his stats at D2 Grand Valley State.

If you have to defend an FBS coach by citing his D2 stats, you know he's a corch.

How? It was essentially four words out of the entire post. Its a part of his resume, but its not the only part of his resume. He's worked his way up the coaching ladder and been a winner everywhere he's been. D2, MAC, CUSA, and even at Notre Dame. Over 100 wins in D1 and he's taken over some pretty **** programs. Even Dantonio was pretty middling at Cincy before Kelly took over. Central Michigan won 3 games before he got there. Notre Dame was a .500 team before he took the job. He had them all winning the conference by Year 3, Notre Dame was in the National Title game by year three.

That isn't a corch by any definition.

 

[DaU83]

No. But overrated.

 

[MedleyCane]

He doesn't have access to talent like other teams. He's a good coach. ND was dead in the water for 20 years before he got there.

Notre Dame's a household name. In what world do they not have access to talent?

I think he meant location-wise. South Bend is in Indiana not exactly a football state. But you're right - the rich history and big name coaches still manage to bring in talent.

Yep. They have to scour the country to fill their roster with talented players. Not an easy thing to do. Their name recognition is there but when you don't have a talent base to work off of you are at a severe handicap. It's why programs like Nebraska struggle now. Don't know what their access to talent was in the 80s and 90s but I've heard USCe has taken a lot of the talent they may have had access to.

During the 1980s and early 1990s they were nabbing talent from alot of the private schools across the country plus national
4-5 star recruits from all over.
I think schools like BC, Stanford, and Northwestern have hurt them somewhat insofar as the private school kids are concerned.
Albeit, with the possible exception of Stanford, the other 2 schools aren't exactly powerhouses, but they do get the type of
linemen that NLame used to get, especially the northeast Catholic kids.
But that's more on NLame then the other schools as they still have access to very good national talent.

 

[k9cane]

I think Kelly is a very good coach but the way he (mis)handled his QB's last night was absurd.

Zaire should only be playing in blowouts, you have to go with Kizer otherwise

 

[Hurracanes]

He doesn't have access to talent like other teams. He's a good coach. ND was dead in the water for 20 years before he got there.

Doesn't have access to talent.He has every Catholic priest in the country recruiting for him,of course if the recruit doesn't go to Mass that could be a problem!

Notre Dame doesn't have access to talent? Wow.

 

[Footballhelmet]

I'm less than thrilled with the Diaz hire but he is far better than VanGorder. In fact, I wouldn't say Donofrio is any better than VanGorder but I'm not sure he's any worse either.

 

[Footballhelmet]

Ooooooor........you guys might want to sit down for this one.............maybe Charlie Strong might be a good coach. Uh Oh!

Said this last year and got negged to ****. I dont care tho. The man can coach.

Strong is a huge corch.

But Kelly has just made people question if Strong is a corch after all.

If you cause people to question if Charlie Strong is a corch, then you probably are a corch yourself.

 

[Canezum5]

Ooooooor........you guys might want to sit down for this one.............maybe Charlie Strong might be a good coach. Uh Oh!

Said this last year and got negged to ****. I dont care tho. The man can coach.

Strong is a huge corch.

But Kelly has just made people question if Strong is a corch after all.

If you cause people to question if Charlie Strong is a corch, then you probably are a corch yourself.

no one cares what you think.

Theyre both good coaches.

 

[Hurracanes]

Not sure what to think about ND (even Texas) after this loss but I am curious to see how their Defense does moving forward.

 

[User-4525]

He doesn't have access to talent like other teams. He's a good coach. ND was dead in the water for 20 years before he got there.

Notre Dame's a household name. In what world do they not have access to talent?

I think he meant location-wise. South Bend is in Indiana not exactly a football state. But you're right - the rich history and big name coaches still manage to bring in talent.

Yep. They have to scour the country to fill their roster with talented players. Not an easy thing to do. Their name recognition is there but when you don't have a talent base to work off of you are at a severe handicap. It's why programs like Nebraska struggle now. Don't know what their access to talent was in the 80s and 90s but I've heard USCe has taken a lot of the talent they may have had access to.

Theres a reason Harbaugh wants traveling camps. Not enough talent in their area to win championships. So he has to travel to Florida or California or Louisiana, etc.

Its why teams like Miami, LSU, Houston, Texas, USC, UGA, Bama, and a few others will always be good or have an opportunity to be good. They have access to talent that other programs would kill for.

They've had top fifteen classes the past 4 years so it doesn't seem to be too big of a problem for them.