Is any argument valid to keep Al Golden?

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At this point we all know "he lead us through the cloud" and "he has showed progress" and everything else that has been said in the last year or so. I've been thinking about this past season and now looking back, any kind of promise we showed actually doesn't seem to be that impressive.

As far as the cloud goes, good for him, but its over. That cant be an excuse anymore. In reality though, was it that hard to recruit even with the cloud? The majority of kids come to miami because its ******* MIAMI. We were getting the kids that were good but not good enough for FSU, (outside of Duke Johnson he was a cane from day 1 regardless), the kids Florida didnt need and the ones that had staying close to home high on their list. Thats what we got. It looked like a heroic effort when it happened but now i dont think it was that big of a deal. IMO any coach would have had the same results.

Making progress: Yes we went 6-6, 7-5, to 9-4. Our teams were complete **** the first 2 years and with that roster 6-6, 7-5 seemed acceptable. Then 9-4, looks like significant progress, being 7-0 and ranked #7 at one point, but the schedule was nothing to show for. Anything less than 7-0 and he's probably being begged to be fired last year after the FSU game. Then we all know, we had a loaded roster this year, and 6-6 is what we get. That isnt progress. The last 2 years from FSU on we are 2-4 and now 0-3 with a game remaining. That rules out progress.

The FSU game: We all know we had FSU beat. But watching that game i just knew eventually we would lose. I knew it and it happened. FSU has done it 8 times this year to teams that arent even as good as us. Regardless of how good the team is, I am sold at this point that FSU will beat them by less than 7 points. Had we been 1 of maybe 2 or 3 teams that played them that way then I would buy that, but **** NC state had them KILLED and blew it, ND, BC, Florida, Clemson, everyone pretty much. Throw that out now, it just doesn't look like it was actually as good of a game as it was.

This season in general, going on the road to UL, it was a blackout croud, blacked out jerseys, night game, nationally televised, we have a freshman qb. It didnt look good from the start, and it didnt look good at the end. Yes our defense held us in the game, but the ball was consistently being run down our throat and that mediocre qb picked us apart all game. He then went on to lose to UVA and the qb that looked amazing against us got pulled from the game. Just 1 game later. Nebraska went on to lose towards the end of their season and showed their true colors. We got it run down our throats again. GT, run it down our throats, as usual. We looked like we never seen the option before, totally un prepared, when it was said that Golden seems to have the formula to beat them. We did nothing similar to previous years. But in the end, hats off to GT they beat georgia and actually look decent. Then our end of the year collapse, 2 games we should have won but didnt. Typical Al Golden

Lastly, as a recruiter, I strongly believe Al can sell this program, but I still think his eye for talent is lacking. Coley has the eye, he was the first guy to spot Kaaya and had he not offered him before anyone else and spotted him first he is probably in powder blue and gold or red and gold. But i just watch us settle for taking 15 3 star recruits in our class and it being ranked number 10 because of size. Its like Tennessee, they have more talent than we do, but not nearly deserving #3 or 4 class in the nation. I would much rather settle like LSU does for maybe 20 guys in a class all targeting the top tier guys and dont even look at the lower end guys until you realize we arent going to land the big guy. That would solve our scholarship problem as well. We are getting commits from the guys just thankful to get a miami offer and having no room for the big named guys. I will say though, the 2016 class is how it needs to be every year. I will rule out recruiting if he is able to hold that class together, but if not, Im not sold on him being as good of a recruiter as he gets credit for.

BEFORE YOU ASSUME IM FOR AL GOLDEN.. READ AT LEAST A PARAGRAPH. IM NOT.
 
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No, and when you ask people this question, they stare at you dumbfounded:

Name me one tangible reason that leads you to believe Al Golden is a good football coach?
 
Why is it that everyone posting stuff like that lately is new to the board? Is that you Al? Mark? Donna? Blake? Family member? Come clean.
 
No, and when you ask people this question, they stare at you dumbfounded:

Name me one tangible reason that leads you to believe Al Golden is a good football coach?

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Only reason why I have a VERY SMALL soft spot is because he has never been allowed to recruit without some type of issue. Came in last minute to try to salvage a weak class, then the cloud and now recruits will rather stay away from this dumpster fire that is our Football program.

With that said, his going after the Penn St Job, constant picking up no names from out of state when he has a the most fertile ground in SF and his game day coaching are things that turn me off.

throw in Dorito and his defending of this clown that can't recruit and has the worst defense in Miami football history and it's a no brainer. He has to go.

We are not the 15th best defense in the country, we got rolled dragged in every single lost. Only reason we are ranked so high is because games were shortened with all the 10 play, 7+ minute scoring drives we constantly gave up. He is feeding us chicken **** and trying to say it's chicken salad, but everyone is on to him, we watch the games to know the numbers he throws out are worthless.
 
WOW you mofos don't read ish unless it's two sentences long!!! The OP was asking a question and used facts to dismiss any notion of there being any excuse to keep Golden around. He wasn't defending Golden....he articulated the excuses this Admin have used to justify him remaining their coach, but how those excuses have been grossly exagerrated from the cloud not being that big of an issue, to Golden's lack of talent evaluation as a recruiter, to the inflated 7-0 start we had last year. Good job OP....I've seen you enough on here to know that you truly hate Golden and the Admin to EVER defend him. ****, you even went in on Donna for losing her mom. Lol. Unfortunately, we're all so testosteroned up that some saw the thread and quickly assumed your articulation was that of a slurper, which you are far from.
 
I'm all for firing him guys. I shot down any argument he has been or anyone in support has been trying to make. -OP i also just posted a long comment on another post, you can check on my profile but basically i know a guy who knows a former assistant AD at miami as well as several people currently at miami. But he says money is the issue do to some sort of buyout clause that states he would be owed a large % of his contract if he were fired before the 2015 season. But significantly drops off after 2015. Also seen something like 80% would be owed after this year in another article a few days ago.. seems to match up. But also said to wait, they will talk about it and arent oblivious to the fact that we suck. This is just what he has said, heard rumors, etc. He was in a company that was a large donor to the school so im sure he hears stuff. No one has seen the contract but they strongly believe that this is true.
 
If you want to be a middling ACC program that hand feeds elite prospects to FSU, UiF, and Bama, then yes, you could make a case to keep him
 
My guess is that when Arkansas beats us by 40 in the **** bowl, he gets canned. Right now, there are too many people in power on the fence. They have agreed to reevaluate after the bowl.
 
My guess is that when Arkansas beats us by 40 in the **** bowl, he gets canned. Right now, there are too many people in power on the fence. They have agreed to reevaluate after the bowl.

I have been saying all along that if we play Arkansas.. the biggest o-line in the country... and power running game/good defense. We are ****ed. Or in luck if you really want us to lose but they will destroy us. Could possibly be the worst matchup possible for miami, them or Wisconsin.
 
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Argument for keeping Golden?Yes,there is and that's money.You buyout Golden,$10mil to do so.Plus
bringing new coach and staff.Your not going to get by with what you paying Golden and staff,so
another $20mil;ie $3milx 4yrs=$12mil for coach.
Best solution,a winning season next year and fans buying tickets.You continue to have nobody
at games except FSU and BOT has to be considering dropping FB.Golden wins games and moves on.
Far fetched....UAB dropped FB yesterday because they were losing $20mil/year.I suspect U losing
more than that.
 
If you want to be a middling ACC program that hand feeds elite prospects to FSU, UiF, and Bama, then yes, you could make a case to keep him

We arent even middling we are bottom. I agree OP there is no reason to keep him, he has prvoen nothing other than being a "good look" for the U as in he has that look and can talk to the media.
 
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