Interior OL vs Clemson

[Mico Jones]

Also LOL at your thread because we’ve only allowed 22 sacks all year....that’s tied with Clemson. So tell me do you think we’ll do the same to their offensive line? Or did you make this thread based off an idiotic opinionation?

people just building clemson up to be this monster

talent doesn't mean better coached

we are better in both TFL and Sacks per game and we allow the same per game just as you said

not to mention Clemson's secondary is worse than VT's so i'm not worried about too many coverage sacks



running the ball on the other hand...we gotta get our **** together

There’s talent there’s coaching and there’s matchups personnel and scheme wise.

Clemson has great coaching, talent, personnel that present tough matchups for us and their schemes on O and D are the kind that give us difficulty.

 

[Tgrfan4life]

Anyone that extremely worried about Clemson watch the FSU and NC State game. Teams paper thin at corner. This is a winnable game

Was paper thin at corner but all those guys have come back over the past two weeks. We had 4 starters out vs NCState and one go out mid game. We had 5 starters out vs FSU but all those guys are back now. While we are not super deep we are in much better shape than we were a few weeks ago.

 

[stormbrewing]

FSU has serious day 1-2 NFL talent we got at them... guess we will see what happens

 

[Gatorhater]

Only watched NC State game so far but wow is Clemson's DL overrated. Good post ^ btw.

ND and VT were supposed to have good DLs and those were 2 of the best rushing days for Miami. FSU was the best DL Miami will face this year.

NC State consistently got 3+ YPC vs. Clemson and their DTs in particular were invisible. They don't penetrate upfield like McIntosh and Norton and on film they aren't as stout at the point of attack as ND's front.

Ferrell is athletic in space and capable of using his length for coverage sacks but none of their DL are dynamic 1on1 rushers. They rely on blitzes to get to the QB like Miami relies on games and blitzes with the odd Garvin rush or Harris effort sack.

(full scouting writeup coming tomorrow with a focus on Clemson's offense)

I've made it through 3 games so far. I guess it's relative depending on what you consider they're "rated." They are talented. You disagree with that view? I still think we're relatively ok in pass pro - especially when we're not incredibly predictable (based on down, distance, scenario). Clemson's D also disguises better other teams I've watched, so that's something to consider in terms of Richt/Rosier.

I am really impressed with some of you guys on this site. Very knowledgeable about the game and the technical stuff. I do not have those skills or knowledge. Clemson is very good and will be a challenge. For me I want to see pain delivered by our defense early and often and our big time players to make big time plays. We need Rosier to play his best game and the skill players to make the big plays when they are there. No dropped passes or missed picks. I don't think we need to be perfect because we are good too, but they are defending champs and we need to show everyone that we are Canes and back to take our crown back.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Only realistic way to stem a DL like Clemson's is to do to them what teams do to us:

- Hurry up
- Spread out
- Misdirection
- Quick pass game

Richt's creativity will be needed more than it has ever been during his time at Miami.

We going to find out if there's any wood in Richts woody, that's for sure.

 

[iLoveTDs]

Only realistic way to stem a DL like Clemson's is to do to them what teams do to us:

- Hurry up
- Spread out
- Misdirection
- Quick pass game

Richt's creativity will be needed more than it has ever been during his time at Miami.

I was confident you were going to say "hold"

 

[Tgrfan4life]

VT.....all I gotta say.

VT DL is like the little giants compared to Clemson.......not one player on VT DL would start Clemson

All four are draft picks just like Clemson.





PS: know what you’re talking about before responding.


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LOL , four draft picks.....vs 4 FIRST ROUND PICKS

Take a nap dude

Ferrell isn’t a first round draft pick....in fact the only first draft pick on that D-line is Wilkins


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What?? Numerous NFL scouts said after his freshman season that Lawrence would be a top 5 pick when he comes out. Most think if he keeps up like he has he could be #1 overall pick.

 

[obfan]

KC against 99 is a disaster and will probably dash any hopes of an NFL career at least at LT.

Coach either changes the offense for this game or we get embarrassed by them...........again

 

[brock]

KC against 99 is a disaster and will probably dash any hopes of an NFL career at least at LT.

Coach either changes the offense for this game or we get embarrassed by them...........again

Kc mcdermott was able to block Bradley Chubb last year who is a better dlineman than anyone miami has played against the last 2 years

 

[HighSeas]

Only watched NC State game so far but wow is Clemson's DL overrated. Good post ^ btw.

ND and VT were supposed to have good DLs and those were 2 of the best rushing days for Miami. FSU was the best DL Miami will face this year.

NC State consistently got 3+ YPC vs. Clemson and their DTs in particular were invisible. They don't penetrate upfield like McIntosh and Norton and on film they aren't as stout at the point of attack as ND's front.

Ferrell is athletic in space and capable of using his length for coverage sacks but none of their DL are dynamic 1on1 rushers. They rely on blitzes to get to the QB like Miami relies on games and blitzes with the odd Garvin rush or Harris effort sack.

(full scouting writeup coming tomorrow with a focus on Clemson's offense)

I've made it through 3 games so far. I guess it's relative depending on what you consider they're "rated." They are talented. You disagree with that view? I still think we're relatively ok in pass pro - especially when we're not incredibly predictable (based on down, distance, scenario). Clemson's D also disguises better other teams I've watched, so that's something to consider in terms of Richt/Rosier.

Yeah they're talented but I don't see them as an overwhelmingly dominant DL that changes the course of a game. Even against FSU's abomination of an OL it was the backup 67 who got the most penetration. Interestingly Miami and Clemson are very similar in terms of sack profile: great on 1st and 2nd down but average on 3rd down. This supports the point I made which was that neither team has pass rushers that dominate 1on1 matchups, rather it's a group effort.

Anyways my biggest concern with the Clemson front is batted balls, especially from the DE Bryant.

I stupidly started writing my thread on here instead of in a word processor, accidentally hit back-page hotkey and lost my work. So I'll write it up again when I'm not frustrated, maybe Thursday.

KC against 99 is a disaster and will probably dash any hopes of an NFL career at least at LT.

Coach either changes the offense for this game or we get embarrassed by them...........again

Kc mcdermott was able to block Bradley Chubb last year who is a better dlineman than anyone miami has played against the last 2 years

And Josh Sweat who is very similar to Ferrell. Probably better edge speed tbh.

 

[brock]

Only watched NC State game so far but wow is Clemson's DL overrated. Good post ^ btw.

ND and VT were supposed to have good DLs and those were 2 of the best rushing days for Miami. FSU was the best DL Miami will face this year.

NC State consistently got 3+ YPC vs. Clemson and their DTs in particular were invisible. They don't penetrate upfield like McIntosh and Norton and on film they aren't as stout at the point of attack as ND's front.

Ferrell is athletic in space and capable of using his length for coverage sacks but none of their DL are dynamic 1on1 rushers. They rely on blitzes to get to the QB like Miami relies on games and blitzes with the odd Garvin rush or Harris effort sack.

(full scouting writeup coming tomorrow with a focus on Clemson's offense)

I've made it through 3 games so far. I guess it's relative depending on what you consider they're "rated." They are talented. You disagree with that view? I still think we're relatively ok in pass pro - especially when we're not incredibly predictable (based on down, distance, scenario). Clemson's D also disguises better other teams I've watched, so that's something to consider in terms of Richt/Rosier.

Yeah they're talented but I don't see them as an overwhelmingly dominant DL that changes the course of a game. Even against FSU's abomination of an OL it was the backup 67 who got the most penetration. Interestingly Miami and Clemson are very similar in terms of sack profile: great on 1st and 2nd down but average on 3rd down. This supports the point I made which was that neither team has pass rushers that dominate 1on1 matchups, rather it's a group effort.

Anyways my biggest concern with the Clemson front is batted balls, especially from the DE Bryant.

I stupidly started writing my thread on here instead of in a word processor, accidentally hit back-page hotkey and lost my work. So I'll write it up again when I'm not frustrated, maybe Thursday.

KC against 99 is a disaster and will probably dash any hopes of an NFL career at least at LT.

Coach either changes the offense for this game or we get embarrassed by them...........again

Kc mcdermott was able to block Bradley Chubb last year who is a better dlineman than anyone miami has played against the last 2 years

And Josh Sweat who is very similar to Ferrell. Probably better edge speed tbh.

Don’t get me wrong though Ferrell is the real deal, he’s just not better than Chubb or Demarcus Walker who miami shut out last year too...(st Louis blocked him I think vs fsu)

Ferrell
Demarcus Lawrence
Christian Wilkins
Austin Bryant
Are defintiely the real deal. Don’t know much about their depth. Our dline doesn’t take a backseat to anyone either. Stats don’t lie

 

[LuCane]

I've made it through 3 games so far. I guess it's relative depending on what you consider they're "rated." They are talented. You disagree with that view? I still think we're relatively ok in pass pro - especially when we're not incredibly predictable (based on down, distance, scenario). Clemson's D also disguises better other teams I've watched, so that's something to consider in terms of Richt/Rosier.

Yeah they're talented but I don't see them as an overwhelmingly dominant DL that changes the course of a game. Even against FSU's abomination of an OL it was the backup 67 who got the most penetration. Interestingly Miami and Clemson are very similar in terms of sack profile: great on 1st and 2nd down but average on 3rd down. This supports the point I made which was that neither team has pass rushers that dominate 1on1 matchups, rather it's a group effort.

Anyways my biggest concern with the Clemson front is batted balls, especially from the DE Bryant.

I stupidly started writing my thread on here instead of in a word processor, accidentally hit back-page hotkey and lost my work. So I'll write it up again when I'm not frustrated, maybe Thursday.

About 4 or so games in, my biggest concern is what they do with their LBs and Ends. I'll save most of the convo for your thread, but the short of it:
- They stand guys up.
- They try a lot of confusion and our OL hasn't been great with that stuff.
- As I said off the board today, I watched Clemson drop 9 on a 3rd down.
- They zone blitz (seemingly more effectively than we do).

They just do a lot of things for which we'll need a solid plan.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

Only realistic way to stem a DL like Clemson's is to do to them what teams do to us:

- Hurry up
- Spread out
- Misdirection
- Quick pass game

Richt's creativity will be needed more than it has ever been during his time at Miami.

This reminds me of the old Happy Days episode where Richie is scheduled to fight a local hoodlum and asks Fonzie for advice. Fonzie tells him to punch the guy as he's taking his coat off, Richie responds by saying so if I trick him I can beat him, Fonzie replies no you're gonna get killed but you can get at least one good shot in.

Hearns vs. Hagler. I bet that one heavily because I knew only one of them had a glass jaw.

In college football you might have the glass jaw but occasionally produce the wrongful winner via turnovers and big plays. That's our opportunity. And short passes should not be an emphasis, Just the opposite. Premier teams chew up short passes and do it with a thrashing arrogance that establishes the physical pecking order, while leaving no doubt.

Hurry up and run the ball
Run the ball often, pass the ball well
Downfield
Just because you didn't connect last week means nothing. You weren't going to hit all of those open receivers last week anyway. Normalcy needed. One or two.

 

[DMoney]

The matchup I'm worried about is Wilkins (#42) against Donaldson. Wilkins is flexible as **** and plays with great pad level. Donaldson struggled with Duke's smaller DTs getting under him.

Clemson doesn't do well with pace. Syracuse wore them out. They play their top 4 guys all game.

 

[407cane]

KC against 99 is a disaster and will probably dash any hopes of an NFL career at least at LT.

Coach either changes the offense for this game or we get embarrassed by them...........again

Kc mcdermott was able to block Bradley Chubb last year who is a better dlineman than anyone miami has played against the last 2 years

And Chad Thomas and Joe Jackson in practice


You guys are giving Ferrell too much credit. He has as many sacks as trent Harris in way more snaps

 

[407cane]

Everyone here understands that our offensive line goes against our defensive line in practice every day right? And defensive line has performed better than Clemson's

I'm not saying they aren't great but it's not like our offensive line will be completely submissive and terrified of clemson OL especially with a shaky secondary

 

[Captain Uberpants]

Anyone think a holding penalty will be called on their OL?


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[paksat]

Anyone think a holding penalty will be called on their OL?


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bahahahahaahahahaahhaahhahaahahhahahahahahah

tell another one!

 

[Canemang]

The matchup I'm worried about is Wilkins (#42) against Donaldson. Wilkins is flexible as **** and plays with great pad level. Donaldson struggled with Duke's smaller DTs getting under him.

Clemson doesn't do well with pace. Syracuse wore them out. They play their top 4 guys all game.

Can't be true, Clemsons DL is very average according to some on this board

Miami Rolls 56-3

 

[rok]

KC against 99 is a disaster and will probably dash any hopes of an NFL career at least at LT.

Coach either changes the offense for this game or we get embarrassed by them...........again

Kc mcdermott was able to block Bradley Chubb last year who is a better dlineman than anyone miami has played against the last 2 years

Chubb beat McDermott several times.